Ancient conspiracy: Tower of Babel

a reply to: RaggedymanI respect your opinion though, so feel free to post any thing you'd like about the thread. I wasn't trying to shock you with history, but said information is easily verifiable if you want to fact check me I encourage it.

originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: Punisher75That comment I made was a subtle dis of mainstream Christianity and it's teaching of the bible as literal history. Do you have any interest in the spiritual philosophical or esoteric that you can do more than go after other people for what they say while you're here? So far I'm not immpressed but surprise me.

1. It wasn't that subtle. If you think it was, then subtlety is not your strong point.

2. If you think mainstream Christianity teaches the Bible as literal history, then you don't know as much about it as you do about subtlety.

originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: Punisher75Chill the f out, religious conspiracies is where we are, which is by nature offensive to Christianity. Take a breather dude, your getting all wound up over nothing.

Why would the religious conspiracy forum be inherently offensive to Christians? There are some conspiracies in religion that have to do with things not at all offensive to us. For example, there is one conspiracy that says the world may be secretly controlled by a cabal of high level Satanic elites trying to usher in a NWO.

Your UN building would then be a potential part of that conspiracy. "There is nothing that would be impossible ..."

Imagine the technological progress man would have made had they all continued to share the same language.
They probably would have reached the nuclear age thousands of years ago.
God confused their languages to slow them down, allowing his purpose concerning the "seed" to work out.
Plus it allowed man to spread out over the surface of the earth.

a reply to: ketsuko
It just is I have never sought an explanation but the christians I know take it as literal history. Also your focusing on the most negative thing in this thread is that normal for you? I would think since that comment was old, off topic and not directed at you it shouldn't be of any concern to you. But I respect your opinion keep posting and thank you.

a reply to: areyousirius360

You could well be correct, but based on what

I don't think main stream theology has the babel story right, one thing I am sure of is neither is your story.

what upsets me is that you think you are correct and every one else is wrong, you don't know that.
You have no evidence to base what you believe on

a reply to: ketsuko
Your being a lot over defensive with your angry comments. Instead of picking apart from what I said, you could say something interesting and you wouldn't have to complain which accomplished less than nothing. I get it your an obsessive critic point made. How about Babel?

a reply to: Raggedymanwell Your upset over something not true then.

a reply to: RaggedymanI never did any of that if you read the thread youll see I have encouraged every comment even when people focus on negatives like you are right now. You don't have to get mad because I asserted that I was correct because I have done the necessary research. I don't need to prove it, but when someone says baseless assumptions or whatever you said, im not gonna argue but just say im correct and deal with someone else. Don't throw around undeserved insults and cry when I don't engage in an argument with you.

Lol at taking the bible seriously.

The bible IS the conspiracy.

a reply to: areyousirius360

Welcome back Gnosisisfaith/Essence616/33Iam666/369elyon

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Punisher75

I am on the OPs side
It's a valid question and many times theologians have missed the deeper understanding of the text
It's not circular reasoning, it's searching scripture, what all Christians are called to do

When Christ held up the coin and asked who's image was on the coin, it had nothing to do with paying taxes, though the church still teaches that

I agree that there is more going on than is self evident in the tower narrative, taken by itself however; I don't think it is conspiratorial.
I think the "front story" of Babel is dead on, just like it says. The interesting part of the story however is what it all means, in context to who these nations are and who they are run by in a cosmological sense.
I am talking about the "divine council" worldview here.

a reply to: Punisher75The conspiracy was between each parties. The builder's of the Tower were conspiring to get to heaven and be powerful enough to defend against YHWH. The other conspiracy was between YHWH and his servants.

a reply to: Punisher75
We also got into the fact that the EU uses the Tower as a symbol, a conspiracy on its own. That's 3 conspiracies. Just saying, not trying to be confrontational.

originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: Punisher75The conspiracy was between each parties. The builder's of the Tower were conspiring to get to heaven and be powerful enough to defend against YHWH. The other conspiracy was between YHWH and his servants.

I think the "out front" issue of the tower itself, is mans proclivity to try to meet God on mans terms and not Gods.

In short mankind forgetting that God gets to make the rules on how and when we interact with him. Mankind is a prideful crowd.

I mean what threat exactly could a bunch of humans have really been to an Omnipotent omnipresent God?

originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: Punisher75
We also got into the fact that the EU uses the Tower as a symbol, a conspiracy on its own. That's 3 conspiracies. Just saying, not trying to be confrontational.

If the EU is trying to create another "Babel" then I would not be surprised it is the hubris of man that God dealt with at the first Babel. Remember Proverbs 26:11 "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

a reply to: Punisher75None whatsoever. But they have been trying for a long time. I think the idea of America was cooked up by Rosicrutians as the new Atlantis and carried out by rebels under Masonic influence. The constitution is similar to the rules of Freemasonry. I have never read it I just read about it so don't quote me.

a reply to: Punisher75Yeah good quote. So true.

The only problem I have is that the OP writer Gnosisisfaith, failed to present a clear idea of The Tower of Babel Conspiracy. He interjected a couple ideas with no real substance and is letting each person go into their own story line on what the conspiracy is.

I have read all four pages and still have not gotten a clear example of any Conspiracy of the Tower of Babel.

It would be nice is 369elyon would be so kind as to present a clear Tower of Babel Conspiracy, that we then could discuss.

Part of the key to understanding this account is in verse 3: And they said one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and bitumen had they for mortar."

The esoteric meaning laying the groundwork for understanding the rest of the account of the Tower of Babel is in the symbolic meaning of brick and bitumen as opposed to stone and mortar.