Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: BASSPLYR

You are right! it is more gorilla like
Lots of souls taken by the great lakes, shipwrecks and spooky tales.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I see a gigantic monkey goddess in her chariot. She rocks.

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a reply to: SkidMark

Oh the slug! I see it now, that is horrific! Way scarier than Nessie.

a reply to: Baddogma

In line with Totums. My mom befriended a indian chief who gave her a Talking Staff to take home. She kept it right next to the fireplace mantle for years.

At least I think it's called a talking staff. It was of Hopi origin and it was not the kind used for Council meetings to denote who has the floor to talk but the kind used by shamans to talk with the dead or channel them. This thing had a coyote skull on the top, was about 24 inches long. Had feathers and beads. Wrapped in leather and sinew.

Prettybear. You know anything about those or what the accurate name is? I always called it a talking staff but I know it had a more formal name. know about how they were used or any info on them?

She was also gifted a Burial Staff made up of deer ribs and a deer skull. Any info on that too. They were semi grotesque but I never got any bad vibes from them nor the Hopi we visited.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No crows around here. We have ravens though...about the size of domestic house cats:



Yeah, they like McDonalds fries just like everyone else. Smart birds, they're fun to talk back and forth with.

a reply to: beansidhe
The artistry of neolithic cave paintings done on uneven surfaces that make them seem to move in firelight is entrancing to me, too. Herzog's Cave of Forgotten Dreams was cool.

And no, I have no pics and would be mildly surprised if any existed ... and I just spent a few minutes going through some (gorgeous) images of Sabino Canyon and couldn't find the rock face ... it's on the north side of the first large hill on the left when entering, one then looks back and to the right, and on some nights there is a detailed, lined face of an Indian man of about 60 that takes up the whole side of a considerable hill... so detailed at times one would recognize him in real life if one saw him.... the moonlight helps to bring him out... maybe the time of year, too, of course.

Now, granted, the first time I saw him I was with a shaman of sorts and had eaten some (disgusting and legal for religious purposes) psychoactive cactus, but later saw him again when no cacti was used. Other nights, he simply had something else to do, I guess, and wasn't there, heh.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

I have a deep, deep love of crows and ravens... and have spent hours talking with them like some fool. I had one guy who took a shine to me and would follow me around and occaisionaly leave me something shiny as a present... love those raucous bastards.

I don't usually adore ornithological critters like the furry ones, but crows and Gila Woodpeckers, a local guy, are two I resonate with... chock full of smarts and opinions.

a reply to: BASSPLYR
As a complete aside, and as far as Hopi, a tribe I really love, I had a dream involving kilometers high Kachinas stomping around on the horizon during a nighttime thunder storm and the visual my brain conjured has stayed with me for decades... would make a great flick, though Pacific Rim sorta touched on it, heh.

Okay, I'll stop my own thread drift and I am free to escape into the great outdoors... laters.

a reply to: Baddogma

Crows and ravens have excellent memory and can remember faces of humans. Around here they "commute" up to 50 miles a day to the city.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Hm I have a picture I took of my living room, and I noticed later a goat inside the fire I had going in the fireplace. I'll see if I can find it.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: zazzafrazz
though I wonder if spirits are EM or just effect EM?

Just a quick question on this statement; Is there a specific reason you do not include the possibility of both?

It seems to me that if the former statement is true, it would seem the latter would follow. And if the latter is true, then the former would have to be at least partially accurate.

@BASSPLYR;

I always appreciate an in-depth response, and certainly have no issue whatsoever waiting for one!

Finally caught up! This is *not* light reading!

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No crows around here. We have ravens though...about the size of domestic house cats:

Yeah, they like McDonalds fries just like everyone else. Smart birds, they're fun to talk back and forth with.

Anyway, don't really care for them or McDonalds myself. Always staring at me with their "wee beady eyes and their long pointed teeth!" (Monty Python).

Now for the weirdness: So one evening walking along the park strip saw one lawn-darted into the snow bank! It looked like it dove straight in, wings out, feet tucked, and every thing. Buried up to it's rear end nearly. Very strange because you never see one dead--this was the first one I've ever seen anyway (and I was born in this state). On my walk back home, it was gone...

Like Mystik said, they are frigging huge. I thought maybe a dog walker came across it and picked it up (worms and such) but there was no obvious dig hole.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
The guano encrusted golden arches is a statement unto its self.

One time I was at a park, sitting by a river. I saw a starling dive into the water and come back out with a snail, which it ate. I had no idea they dove into water like that.

a reply to: Skid Mark

Loons too -- they'll dive under the water and resurface minutes later, hundreds and hundreds of feet away.

Birds are neat, but I'm partial to foxes. They're like cat-dogs or something and always seem to survive.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Really, really enjoying hearing about your hauntings!!!

I'd love to know what that 'later/former' owner experienced, if you feel like PMing me...

...Actually, I'd also love to look that house up on google earth - if I swear never to tell, would you PM the address?

Please do!!!!
a reply to: MystikMushroom

a reply to: lostgirl

ok ill send you an im sometime this weekend.

a reply to: MystikMushroom
Are you sure it's a goat and not SATAN?

Sorry. I had to do that.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Baddogma

At least I think it's called a talking staff. It was of Hopi origin and it was not the kind used for Council meetings to denote who has the floor to talk but the kind used by shamans to talk with the dead or channel them. This thing had a coyote skull on the top, was about 24 inches long. Had feathers and beads. Wrapped in leather and sinew.

That leads to the question can inanimate objects become possessed (we all know about Chucky) or be used as a key for a portal between realms? Have you a picture of the object, it would be interesting to see

a reply to: BASSPLYR
Got any pics? I might know what's up.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

I'd have to research it the same as You. But of Course Coyote is probably tied with Raven as most popular trickster names. Its also said that coyote stole fire and gave it to humans, so definitely one of the stronger allies to humans.

My tribes shaman used pipe smoke as a gift to spirits. (pipe smoke is on the edge of quantum scale...btw).

I'm more Kundalini and science than shaman..but My grandma was a full blood medicine woman...I am bloodline if say.

Sorry not to be too helpful on your question.

Kev