Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Good news.
Sounds like you were able to bring the frantic down a notch or two.

like i said sort of great fun but the mind control methodology being employed is off the scale creepy weirdness,

What was the methodology? From what you said before it sounded like people had been tricked into an orgy (in more ways than one) and that you were able to speak with them telepathically. Any ideas?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Nice post.

The attempted communication about highly specialized, rarefied knowledge (or suppositions, even) is tricky.

Aaaaand onward...

I have to say, the "highly strange" has overtaken many people around me these last weeks... people formerly of the opinion that high strangeness occurred in personal skull space only, rather than shared space ... and they have revised their opinions and sorta spun out... at this time, I'm counting 4 in my own circle of off-internet folks who are reeling from a disturbed sense of reality. Quite a few more if counting this site!

The person close to me convinced some hugely significant event is nigh has (happily) discarded incoming 'Niburu/brown dwarf system' from their personal mythos, but are now considering an impending catastrophe or some-such due to any number of things... others are merely noting that reality has become less consistent, especially lately, and are literally watching reality change around them... one ponders if we are nearing a singularity event, or if the shadowy PTB have put a high octane drug in the water supply (and one could blame the internet/Youtube , too, I suppose).

Personally, I've been a "reality relativist" for years, so nothing new here... but it IS odd.

a reply to: beansidhe

Well part of it was that they became fixated upon sending me a sordid video they'd made, they tried sending it 30 or 40 times, they had the right address but everytime it failed and came back with the address slightly changed and therefore wrong, at which point they began to discuss in their repetitious chant that maybe i didn't want to be part of any mad sex cult, that there was no way to get past my magical defence, that it had become impossible to email me, they weren't blocked and tried various accounts.

So then the discussion was turning to the effectiveness of my magical skills and that i was only blocking them because what they were doing was wrong and i was against it, then they began to sense that i was fully aware of what was happening and that i was helping them, the more the discussion focused on my capabilities the stronger i was guiding the conversation until finally whatever i thought one of the group spoke, nothing else apart from exactly what i was thinking and from there i dispelled the evil possession and guided them through coming down from the hysteria, the only explanation i sent them as to how i worked this was the paragraph and video i posted for you...they got it.

a reply to: Kantzveldt
And what the holy heck is going on in your world, Kandzt!

I've heard some highly strange accounts involving high magic ritual and some "spirit" enveloping folks in a group possession before, from folks I trust very much, so I KNOW it is possible from "real" life as well as eons of accounts/folklore... but wow.

I've also (once) encountered groups of random people in public acting in concert, as if they were 'connected' a la "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" .. .but that was long ago and while under the influence of a 3 letter chem, so can't point to it with any assurance of common reality... but I would never, ever say "impossible" because I know better.

Whatever the personal explanation, that is deeply unsettling.

a reply to: beansidhe

Exactly!

The Universe is a gigantic quantum computer In a way and responds to a multitude of communication styles.

It's just like with me....call me anything you want---except late for dinner!

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Huh, my personal daemon just told me you were several minutes tardy for your second to last repast... does that count?

(poor joke, in case anyone is flipped out and wondering)

a reply to: Baddogma

Hard to say.

Between the media and social media, everyone is perpetually freaked out, and on top of that force fed political, religious and ancient alien memes and other doom porn 24x7.

Peoples emotions then feedback into "the other world" which then feeds back more crazy into media, social media, etc.

Soon enough all of us will need I love me suits.

Kev

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Do you have groupies?

Kev

a reply to: Baddogma

Staying up late watching "I dream of Genie" are we?

a reply to: Baddogma

Yes once people are under group possession and reinforcing their behaviour as a collective through constant verbal repetition of their every degenerate thought in unison that becomes highly volatile, and when i start receiving that in my mind it becomes highly problematic, first i learnt how to block it but then i just went into their silly heads and sorted the whole damn mess out.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No of course not, you know given the posting patterns i've been observing across ATS these past few weeks something along similar lines could happen right here , i'm even sort of hoping it does because i'll nominate you as the expert to sort everything out then sit back and enjoy the show.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Jeepers, I hope not (as to something happening here... my little esp with ByByOts was unsettling enough a hundred pages back).

Whatever one labels "spirits/memes/elder gods/psychological suggestion-impulse/tulpas/high magic principles/etc" they are very real and dwell in all our shared brain space... which by our gradual, imperfect understanding of "quantum weirdness" means that internal space might well be externalized and shared... as I've experienced uncountable times.

I miss Kansas...

well, sorta.

eta: and dudette, I'll be a groupie ... heh

a reply to: olaru12

And Olaru, an account of your "lesson" while on a cheap drug trip still interests me and is begging for a full blow-by-blow accounting (keeping coy a la T&C) ... I wanna compare some notes (though my own are half forgotten and sketchy, I must say).

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

My "I Dream of Genie" became a full on "I Consort with Djinn in Real Time" ... heh, but my young self did really dig Barbara Eden's mid-drift baring garb, even IF that TV effort is now horridly misogynistic.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: olaru12

And Olaru, an account of your "lesson" while on a cheap drug trip still interests me and is begging for a full blow-by-blow accounting (keeping coy a la T&C) ... I wanna compare some notes (though my own are half forgotten and sketchy, I must say).

Copy, but there is no way I won't run afoul of the T&C...I'll PM directly.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

People sure read me wrong.

I asked you an innocent question.

Some people are charismatic and draw people to them. I was simply inquiring if that described you.

I have never once done this sparring thing that people seem to enjoy. I see no purpose in it.

I would never wish people to be possessed for any reason.

That you would wish it upon others for ego gratification purposes, as part of some sort of dominance game...that is baffling to me.

Kev

a reply to: Baddogma

Possession is based upon the reinforcement of false paradigms and a delusional grasp of reality, an illusion in and of itself, the magical seeds of those ideas first need to be sown.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yes i believe everything you say there, carry on i've bought a ticket for the show...

a reply to: Kantzveldt

I wish you the best.

I won't be the one to feed some silly fire.

Thank you,

Kevin

This is a good time to go over a few basics about "conversion disorder", "Internet conversion disorder" and "magical conversion disorder".

First off, "classical conversion disorder"
"Conversion Disorder"

Particularly suggestible people (weak sense of self) can easily fall prey to this. In the past, people often had to be in a physical group together to "drive each other hysterical" and "feed on a hysteria loop'".

Now Internet conversion disorder is the same thing, except someone with a strong sense of self, often someone who is very delusional, can plant "seeds of fear" and other "primal psychological seeds". This is a purely psychological phenomena, aided by the "pseudo telepathy system" known as the Internet.

You can see "Internet Conversion Disorder" all over ATS, nearly daily. Of course some of the most famous threads such as "hidden hand" and "Astr0" are definite strong examples.

The best way to handle this effect, is to simply ignore the delusional nonsense, so that you don't "loop" and keep intensifying the effect.

This is also historically present in such examples as "the evil eye", and some things from voodoo and shamanism.

Now last but not least is "magical conversion disorder".

This usually happens when a "practictioner" wakes up some of the little symbiotes inside their body, typically those at the base of the spine, infects them with their angst, and shares them with their friends and enemies. (even enemies leave themselves open to their enemies. Really enemies share many characteristics with friends).

Now the self-induced mania required to keep the symbiotes agitated can only be maintained for a certain period of time. It actually requires a careful use of bodily resources, especially the sexual hormones. Only a "Kundalini or Tantric" "master" could keep it up for long. So the best thing is to just let the practictioner use up their bodily resources and ignore them, as what they usually want is attention more than anything.

Humans share symbiotes all the time. It's not a big thing, and this 'magical conversion disorder' is actually fairly pathetic.
But people do fall prey to it all the time. It's a very human failing.

Now there is 'actual possession' , but that's extremely rare. I don't generally discuss it, and discussing it can set off a wave of Internet conversion disorder and there is no need to do that.

The reason I'm posting this at this time, is to PREVENT the possible formation of conversion disorder, which is a huge waste of everybody's time.

It's good info to keep in your back pocket, as it does come up fairly frequently on ATS.

Have a good day, one and all.

Kev

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Group dynamics are fascinating, always, particulary when emotions are running high. It's interesting how a group can form a single identity - you called it borg-like I think, earlier on - and participants can lose the sense of self that we need so much. That's why I'm always wary of folk who say we need to get rid of ego, or whatever. No, I say, cling on to that ego!

That kind of group-think is odd, when you can anticipate what others will say or do, and then do it for approval but it seems like you're not talking about norms here, rather telepathy? If they believed that you had the power to control them, then they would be controllable. There's definitely something about a group sharing the same emotion that is hugely powerful and 'connecting' that I'm not sure we fully understand yet. Ever been to a Scotland game when they win? We seem able to join each other emotionally, momentarily, but it's transient.

I might hang on to that Ison video, seems it worked like a charm.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Spot on.