Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: jacygirl

Well I love calling you that.. though your formal name is "flaming ferret wench"

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: jacygirl

Well I love calling you that.. though your formal name is "flaming ferret wench"

Ahh...hahaha....you see, I love that!!

It's like my avi character, walking into the fire...and turning into the Mother of Dragons.
That's me...with my ferret (I had 3 originally). But I confided this much earlier in the thread (and the video I made).

Flaming Ferret Wench...almost makes me want to change my username.

jacy

I really did have some electronic woo-woo stuff to discuss, but it will likely be later this afternoon.

a reply to: jacygirl

Denaris being reborn in the flame with baby dragons is probably the best fantasy scene EVER...though I am also partial to the scene in LOTR with Aragorn and the green ghosts.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: jacygirl

Denaris being reborn in the flame with baby dragons is probably the best fantasy scene EVER...though I am also partial to the scene in LOTR with Aragorn and the green ghosts.

I absolutely agree about Dany and the baby dragons!!
My next favourite scene is where she eats the horse heart, lol. That wench is fierce!!

I am a LOTR fan but I can't seem to remember that particular scene.
I've watched a LOT of movies (when laid up with back injury), some multiple times...so it's hard for me to recall a scene at will anymore. (or what I ate for breakfast, hehe...)

a reply to: Baddogma

But belief systems and the relativity/fallibility of them are old hat to this non-consequential-ape-thing identifying as, among many other things, a marginal ex-junkie basket case.

Aaaw, not to us you're not.

And yes, nice bawz.

a reply to: Anaana

a reply to: Mr Bear

Can I just add that seeing you two discuss how much you hate lawns is just one of the many, many reasons I love ATS.

Astr0 was one of the very best ever MAGICIANS ATS has ever seen.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'd have to agree either with that, or with the notion he was playing it straight. I can imagine a couple other far out scenarios, I suppose, but nothing with a shred of substance.

As I've always said, there was something unusual with that ...er incident. The caliber of folks he had wondering says it all. To wave a wand and be so dismissive of it indicates some 'magic' of your own!

Shaman, heal thyself! (With love)

a reply to: jacygirl

The Army of the Dead in Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. In the 1980 animated version of The Return of the King, the Dead Men of Dunharrow are omitted, and Aragorn just shows up at Minas Tirith with the warriors of southern Gondor, riding the Corsairs' ships. Dead Men of Dunharrow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Baddogma

Astr0 was one of the very best ever MAGICIANS ATS has ever seen.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'd have to agree either with that, or with the notion he was playing it straight. I can imagine a couple other far out scenarios, I suppose, but nothing with a shred of substance.

As I've always said, there was something unusual with that ...er incident. The caliber of folks he had wondering says it all. To wave a wand and be so dismissive of it indicates some 'magic' of your own!

Shaman, heal thyself! (With love)

Oh please!

Black Aircraft geeks / Star Trek Geeks sit around masturbating over pictures of
hypothetical TR3B's. It doesn't take MUCH of a "magician" to get the little
baby plasma symbiotes at the base of the spine woken up and helping to
create ANY supporting delusions which are required to believe in it.

You've not even seen dismissive yet.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Me glad to hear about a quasi-physical space faring race of hostile elder bullies? Why?

And gotta say, your assertions have even less supportive data than astr0's! You have to admit to your observations being purely anecdotal. So on the scale of the ridiculous, yours could be said to rate higher... perspective, good sir.

That said, I tend to give you a huge benefit of a doubt and am quite fascinated by your observations and the details you've just offered up... heh.

Also, just because less careful folks have latched onto narratives and polluted them with gobbledygook doesn't mean they are devoid of all merit, as in 'ancient aliens.'

And I am a human and have lived here for decades, so I've been "had" every day, in most every way, again and again... we all have.

a reply to: Baddogma

I agree with the non-astr0 part of your post somewhat.

But as far as I know.. Astr0 provided ZERO evidence of
anything whatsoever.

Oh sure, some suggestible people (which is a lot of us here on ATS,
not pointing fingers) had some lucid dreams and a bit of conversion
disorder when they saw a satellite or whatever... but nobody saw
anything like I did.. so I'm just not terribly impressed.

Now.. I summoned my BTUFO.. that was plenty of evidence for myself;
but true.. Iv'e not summoned one for anyone else.

It's the old subjective proof quandry. I don't accept your subjective proof
and you don't accept mine.

I'm glad that you are getting a little feisty though.. I like you better
that way.

I AM getting a bit annoyed with the subjective nature of this whole
thing however.. I'm definitely thinking of collaborating with some
others to see if we can see whose Kung Woo (Foo) is stronger!

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Gawd, subjectivity annoys me too... trouble is, I'm not all encompassing enough to get me objective proof!

Oooo... love me some kung-woo!

Though I have no woo-fu, myself, and am not one to want woo-fu'ing flying about as I've had too much of it as it is, but if it gets you feisty and willing to offer up some proof, then all good...

Er... as long as you don't send a space imp to ruin my day (kidding, I know you wouldn't do anything like that... like some black magicians would do... rather attempt to do).

But I still hear ya and know it's ALL subjective to the guy on this end of the net... I have no proof of nuthin' ... literally.

I just roll dice and scribble on the back of envelopes... unlike god, according to some!

eta: and I hate lawns, too... and am glad my grizzled balls are still good for something!

a reply to: Baddogma

You might want to party crash this thread of you haven't:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Anaana

originally posted by: zazzafrazz


Is Astr0 the Vacuum cleaner UFO dude?

Is that something to do with Dyson sphere's?

I think AstrO is the one who is a successful "shaman".

I understand this is a dig at KBP which I won't get dragged in to.

What I did do last night is look through all Astr0's threads, and successful shaman is not how I would describe that member.

Baddogma,
I understand plenty of members (some of who are my good friends here) place his final thread in high regard, for me, it left me mildly interested first read, and unconvinced on the second read.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Now THAT looks fascinating... thanks. Once finished with work (and dealing with my friend who is positive the end is nigh) I shall give it a good read... as it was totally off my radar.

And, to be clear, my insistence that something was "going on" with astr0 doesn't mean I think he was telling a truth, necessarily, but I mean that something out of the ordinary (or perhaps very ordinary but mostly unknown) was afoot.

Perhaps is was baby plasmoids bending psyches to their ridiculous narrative and presenting hallucinations (and again, I am well aware of the material logistical problems with his narrative, as well as a gazillion other things) ... my assertion the whole dang time was that it was more than just a guy just prevaricating on the net for giggles.. .that is ALL.

I mean, if it was as you assert, and a bunch of formerly (semi) rational folks read that patently ridiculous tale and then had hallucinations of its' reality, that qualifies as 'something unusual,' right? Not necessarily face value, but unusual... will you concede that point at least?

a reply to: Baddogma

Yes. I have ALWAYS 100% agreed that a group of people became trickster bait during that time.

And since BTUFO have become a global buzz phenomenon...I'll even say it makes Astr0 doubly interesting.

In fact I'll go so far as to say, that the Astr0 incident was much like the 1981 Theosophical summoning of "Matreya" that I witnessed (and stopped).

And I'll even go X4 agree with you, as It No doubt caused me to get off my ass and do crazy things too.

Yes, it was most powerful.

But basically 100% wrong in terms of narrative.

Are we on the same page now?

Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

Kev

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Yah, re: your assessment of 'the astr0 affair,' heh... let's just say it got deep and wasn't so easy to dismiss.

One thing I can say with certainty is that it was not purely another net cowboy snowing the gullible... well, barring several folks I've read here over the years, and respect, going totally bonkers and/or lying about supportive testimony, that is.

And, to be clear, I'm still on the fence about it and likely will continue to be.

Something deeply weird occurred, though. No doubts there.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

All clear, cap'in, and yup, on the same page... maybe even the same sentence!

Carry on.

a reply to: Baddogma

Describe for me what you thought was weird occurrences regarding the thread?

a reply to: zazzafrazz
Several people who seem(ed) credible reported several different instances... one was told when and where a secret aircraft would be tested and saw it... twice.

One reported that astr0 new stuff about his private life that nobody could know and a PM from astr0 acted like a post hypnotic trigger, creating a flood of memories supporting the allegations he made in that last, wild post.

Another swears that when they asked for proof, three guys in clean suits showed up in his bedroom the following night and spoke to him.

Others report odd govt vehicles parked near their houses after this incident.

Those testimonies were from people I've read for several years, here, and they sure seem credible and not the usual "type" that report outrageous occurrences... at all... their reports sure seemed reliable to me and they have stuck by their stories.

Now, the origin of those experiences is totally up for grabs and not having experienced anything but a weird dream myself, I am left with anecdotal reports... but I will say I believe the folks reporting them.