Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: Peeple

oh but you are special. We are ALL special and we have no idea, just how much, in my opinion. If we would, we would not be on ATS probably, trying to find "the holy grail" : )

I think we are very special in our own way...in a way : ) .... even if we are from the same Self, when ego and soul dissolves or get absorbed. But "individuality" is still present in all stages in my opinion. Only this individuality is expressed from different view - from view of total compassion that comes with understanding of the Self ... and at the end staying with it constantly.

Being.

Everything. Is. An. Illusion. Even a soul.

maybe?

But when talking like that it must be clear that being implies a state, where it is not being at all. There are no words only complete silence inside and outside and we feel inner bliss and know our real place, real Self.
This is also realization that there is no Self at all.

That is real Self.

waw, nonsense right?
hehe well I just had 420, so exuse me, but this stuff just comes to me, maybe it will make same sense to others, but I don't know how to express this in a normal way. But it maybe makes a bit more sense when you look at these things from the absolute and relative prospective. This is very important to understand, but I don't want to say that you don't understand, I am just explanin the context, to get better grasp on my nonsense...

: )

a reply to: Baddogma

I'd also like to point out that a strong belief in a personal soul is just self worship.

I'll also admit that one method of arousing Kundalini is through purposeful self worship (soul worship).

It was Christianity which especially farked everything up...All that fear about your soul going to hell (even the "saved" fret about this unconsciously)

Created the black sludge monster and through negative reinforcement powerfully souped up Tulpas (souls) to become the psychotic mess we have today.

This is just one factor....

Kev

a reply to: Baddogma

A snowflake trying to be a drop? It just makes me sad, the deeper you dig, the further away you get from bliss. The price one pays for trying to look behind the curtain, i guess.
But thanks, very kind. I am special! (says the retard...)

a reply to: UniFinity

No. No nonsense.
Facettes. It is common knowledge our mind is made up of many aspects. The instinct, or animal mind is just as much part of our conscience as the "higher self".

a reply to: Peeple

There can be this perpetual "Kundalini bliss", but its fragile in this day and age.

There are any 20 things that can destroy it.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Fragile and artificial. No. emotions are part of the ride, so i shall embrace them. I messed up my fasting cure high with alcohol, so i deserve this depression.
Do you have this inner monolog thing? I am thinking about that lately a lot and now i want to know if everybody does that? Is that where your book idea comes from? From an inner monolog?

a reply to: Peeple

Whelp, unless you have a basement full of chained slaves/bodies and have slippers made from still living puppies, I doubt you "deserve" depression... "deserve" has nothing to do with it, said some wise sage.

a reply to: Peeple

I don't have much of an inner monologue.
I have mostly inner silence.
I'm writing a book as an expression of beauty and because back when I had a painful soul I'd have given anything for even 10% of what I have learned.

Just basic empathy and a sense of fairness.
No high tech reason.

Kev

a reply to: Peeple

The real bliss is much the same as playful animals have.

What's left when all the ridiculous soul/metaphysics crap is burned away.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

One 'I love heathens' T shirt for me please, black, size 8. Ta very much.


(I'm a bit behind, I'll catch up )

a reply to: johnb

Actually,

Putting on my Internet entrepreneur hat.. (I made 2 million on a 12 page website over 15 years),

I suppose I should stop using the word "Kundalini"; it is a contested brand name with far too much baggage.

That I feel I have to "get permission" from cranky old sanctimonious men in their 70's to 90's before I'm allowed to write from my heart a free book---yecch.

But I still have to connect to the audience.

This might be more of a marketing problem than a metaphysical problem.

The blokes in black hats (religion, government, business) have unlimited money to make big media buys..

To purchase the unlimited quantities of doom porn they innundate us with.

Kev

a reply to: Baddogma

I am not really depressed, no worries. The slaves in my cellar keep me very happy
It was just a hangover that made me lament about the sad state of our collective minds.
And about "deserving" that, I really did. I knew it was a bad idea, but the Port was there I was there and I couldn't resist. Just as advice, not the best drink on an empty belly.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Funny you say hightech reason...
Anyhoo inner silence must be pretty, I only get that, after lots of sports and meditation and then it's only a short time.
But I also don't want that, I don't want to live purely by instinct. Like an animal, I think we have our mind capacity for a reason. We just use it wrong.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Funny you say hightech reason...
Anyhoo inner silence must be pretty, I only get that, after lots of sports and meditation and then it's only a short time.
But I also don't want that, I don't want to live purely by instinct. Like an animal, I think we have our mind capacity for a reason. We just use it wrong.

You are not understanding what I said whatsoever.

Yes, I have a pretty silence.
But it's a silence like a quantum computer that calculates everything at once, so there is no ponderous narrative.
This is the kind of mind you get, after the death of "soul". The kind of mind nobody wants and does everything to avoid.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Sorry, but I don't believe that's possible. If you were calculating everythingat once without a ponderous narrative, you would have all the answers and i don't think you do.
Also you said yourself:

The real bliss is much the same as playful animals have.
What's left when all the ridiculous soul/metaphysics crap is burned away

a reply to: Peeple

Everyone's brain is *something* of a quantum computer.. but it's usually in a messed up condition.

But I do believe the brain can enter a healthy state.

When all the BS about souls and selves is done with, there is nothing to bitch and moan and die for.. there is just peace, with the capacity of the mind available for whatever purpose it finds itself working on.

I know that anything I say will be misinterpreted by suffering selves, so I should be careful to speak with utmost accuracy.

But since I'm not anybody's guru, I guess I'm just some lazy asshole, at least until I get my caffeine in the morning.

BTW, just made a post about "Kundalini" on my blog.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

thanks for mentioning about the blog!

very interesting read. Your experiance with Kundalini sounds a lot to handle.
And I am really happy for you, that you did it!

I imagine that after that you can finally start to explore other sides of you and everything else with much more detail and depth?

I also wander a bit about Shambhala...just curious about it if it is maybe a location where people are, people who are through with Kundalini and can navigate without trouble in "other plains".

a reply to: UniFinity

Well don't get too excitable.

1) The process may or may not be "complete"..things are seldom if ever static. Perhaps a major stability milestone.

2) As I've said many, many times...all this stuff is primarily for "the other". I'm not certain, what if anything, other than "contentment" is my "reward".

So don't be superstitious about Xanadu or the happy hunting grounds or whatever.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

There are no spiritual rewards other than those self awarded.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Aw Zazz where'd the pretty plumeria avatar go? I liked that one. It was nice to look at. Plumerias are my favorite.