The Obvious Strategy of The Islamic State Is Working, You’re All Being Stupid

Yes, let's call it for what it is, radical Islam. Now let's stop cow-towing around the issue and unite around the world to stop it.

And....

Moderate peace loving Muslims are welcome to jump on the bandwagon. If a Muslim loves peace, is tolerant of other religions and points of view, then they are one of us.

I think the best example of constructive action is Russia who have boots on the ground in Syria, fighting alongside Muslims to help regain control of their Muslim country in order to save a mostly Muslim way of life.

If every developed nation sent 10,000 troops and weapons to Syria and Iraq to work with instead of trying to depose the local governments, this war would be over in weeks, ISIS would be crushed and all those Syrian refugees could return home and start the long painful process of rebuilding their nation.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

my take on isis plan is that they want exactly whats happening us to close our doors to the refugees so they eitehr get stuck in limbo or better yet(from isis point of view) they get sent back so they can kill them for fleeing

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Thank you SO .for your wise words . The board needed something said and you have delivered . We all have a tendency of sliding down that slippery slope of our minds and really need the life lines tossed our way .onward captain glad to be on a ship with someone at the helm that knows the rough waters ahead ....

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

it’s the clash of ideologies

and

the nature of narrow ideologies.

And how many of us even consider that we, who ever we consider 'we' to be, might be 'stuck' within one of these 'narrow' ideologies ourselves.

---

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A NARROW IDEOLOGY !!!

It is a survival tactic without which YOU would NOT be here!

A narrowing of focus. An INTOLERANCE for the acceptance
of the status quo and the INTOLERANT ATTITUDE AGAINST
what is deemed UNACCEPTABLE to the greater community
or to the citizens at large is what ALLOWS us to survive!

I find it INTOLERABLE and UNACCEPTABLE that a bunch
of radicals decided to attack a nation. And like the attitude
of many citizens of Germany in the 1940's I find it INTOLERABLE
that MUSLIMS OF ALL STRIPES DID NOTHING against the monster within!

And against ISIS radicals and those who support them,
I find it INTOLERABLE that I must PAINT WITH A BROAD STROKE
the BRUSH OF MY INTOLERANCE against a MUSLIM population
that DOES NOTHING and SPEAKS NOTHING of the actions
OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN!

Did YOU as a Muslim reader of THIS SITE or as a CITIZEN
OF THIS COUNTRY rise up and speak out PUBLICLY against
this attack?! WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE I see BUT A FEW
----- !!! ONLY A TINY, MINUTE FEW !!!!! Of the rest, I see
and hear NOTHING but a deathly and eery QUIET!

Did YOU as a Muslim Leader in ANY GIVEN COUNTRY that is majority
Muslim speak PUBLICLY against these attacks? --- DID YOU and the
majority population that IS MUSLIM who ALLOWED in the NAME
OF ALLAH have a group commit the atrocities of which I speak
shout out your outrage?

---- YOUR SILENCE IS DEAFENING!

WHY should I or MY FELLOW AMERICANS at all TOLERATE such
silence or ACCEPT such notes of silence? Where ARE YOU the
population of YOU MUSLIMS --- YES !!!! ----- I SPEAK OF YOU
AND THEM in EXACTLY the DIVISIVE MANNER that the ATS
MANAGEMENT OP speaks that we SHOULD NOT DO !!!

I speak DIVISIVELY because IT IS A MATTER OF DIVISION !!!!

I DIVIDE MYSELF TO US OR THEM !!!!!

Choose your side !!! Are you WITH THEM or are you WITH US ????

America DOES NOT and WILL NOT TOLERATE a person, a gathering,
a religion, a small group or an ENTIRE people who sit and DO NOTHING
about a problem that THEY!!!! THEM !!!! **** NOT US ***** Allow to CONTINUE !!!!

So I ASK OF YOU ATS Management .......

Where is YOUR INTOLERANCE ????

WHERE IS YOUR NARROW IDEOLOGY
that shows that A-M-E-R-I-C-A shall
stay fast and ADHERE to it's pinciples
of saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!

ARE YOU LIKE THE GERMANS of 1945
THAT DID NOTHING when MUCH
COULD HAVE BEEN DONE ?????

ARE YOU THE SILENT MUSLIMS
OF THE WORLD TODAY ???

ARE YOU ARE THE SYRYANS
who have done NOTHING?
Who allowed a FESTERING SORE
to blacken into a great oozing wound
within their OWN country?

Only the Kurds of the Northern Tribes
in Syria HAVE DONE SOMETHING!
ONLY THEY have SAID ANYTHING!!!!

I speak as a reader and poster of ATS
and AS AN AMERICAN IN SPIRIT, if not
in deed and in action -- I speak to
ALL YOU HERE who TOLERATE by your
inaction or BY YOUR LACK OF SPEECH
AGAINST that is what IS THE TRUTH !!!!

It is NOT HATE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH !!!!!

AND I CALL UPON YOU MANAGEMENT OF ATS
--- I CALL YOU OUT for speaking of TOLERANCE
when it is EXACTLY INTOLERANCE that we
so dearly need !!!!

Let the posters speak their minds!

Let the INTOLERANT OF ATS show their TRUE COLORS
Let AMERICA SPEAK ITS WORDS SO THAT *****YOU**** the
MANAGEMENT of ATS KNOW AND FIND OUT just how intolerant
that we AMERICANS ARE of what is AN ATTACK ON AMERICA
IN SPIRIT IF NOT IN ABSOLUTE DEED !!!

SPEAK YE ATS MANAGEMENT --- SPEAK IN PUBLIC !!!

SHOUT OUT YE FELLOW COUNTRYMEN !!!!!

read these words of a great man from 1776!

"Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have
this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict,
the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap,
we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every
thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price
upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so
celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated."
....
'Tis surprising to see how rapidly a panic will sometimes
run through a country. All nations and ages have been
subject to them. Britain has trembled like an ague at
the report of a French fleet of flat-bottomed boats;
and in the recent centuries the whole English army,
after ravaging the kingdom of France, was driven back
like men petrified with fear; and this brave exploit was
performed by a few broken forces collected and headed
by a woman, Joan of Arc.

Would that heaven might inspire some Jersey maid
to spirit up her countrymen, and save her fair fellow
sufferers from ravage and ravishment! Yet panics,
in some cases, have their uses; they produce as
much good as hurt. Their duration is always short;
the mind soon grows through them, and acquires
a firmer habit than before. But their peculiar advantage
is, that they are the touchstones of sincerity and
hypocrisy, and bring things and men to light, which
might otherwise have lain forever undiscovered.
In fact, they have the same effect on secret traitors,
which an imaginary apparition would have upon a
private murderer. They sift out the hidden thoughts
of man, and hold them up in public to the world. "
...
...thoman paine...1776...

He spoke of works and deeds of horror done
in haste or in acts of panic or in great anger
that will have consequences far and wide.

Yet, these same words ALSO speak of TYRANNY
NOT CONFRONTED WITH GREAT PREJUDICE!
...
While his warnings are a scribe against panic,
they are ALSO words of warning of what NEEDS to
be done in the NAME OF INTOLERANCE and that
WHICH MUST BE DONE in order to gain and
KEEP OUR LIBERTY !!!!


TO ATS READERS AND MANAGEMENT

--- "show your faith by your works!"

if you so find the works of my radical words
abhorrant then become INTOLERANT of them
and SPEAK against them BUT DO NOT HIDE THEM !

Let them fester in the public light so that the
SPIRIT of America shines through such that the
WORDS of compassion or of those of hate
may beacon LOUD AND CLEAR !!!

DO NOTHING to my words and DO NOTHING
to the words of my FELLOW ATS POSTERS such
that the true light of ANY MAN AND WOMAN shines
brightly upon their intrinsic nature to expose the
evil darkness or the benevolent light that is within
to an ever-present public scrutiny!

more words of wisdom...

".....Fight? Against that? No, we will run; and we will live.

Aye, fight and you may die. Run and you'll live -- at least a while.
And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing
to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one
chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may
take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!!! ..."

..... Confront our ENEMIES AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM NOW
so that we have KEEP that which is SO DEAR TO US ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

About time, but thank you mods - it can't be an easy job.

The only thing ISIS are skilled at is social media and propaganda. Fear and divide and rule are the only things that keep their oganisation in existence.

Sadly even Western politicians are begining to fall for their trick and are using the exact same language as ISIS by calling for 'merciless' wars - there's a brilliant article here by probably the only journalist left in the world on the situation:

“I wore a blindfold for four and a half years, and ‘Western democracy’ tells me that justice is blind. I’m not sure about this – because until we can un-blindly question how power is dispensed, then we’re all wearing blindfolds.”

www.independent.co.uk...

a reply to: BrokedownChevy


No, it is you're, meaning 'You are all..."

We westerners have consistently demonstrated a level of deep stupid in response to violence from radical Islam, that results in rampant Islamaphobia, Muslim hate, bigotry and intolerance.

Funny how people sing a different tune when it comes to the '1%', Bankers,Ceo's,Corporations, Monstanto, and Gun owners, and one that takes the trophy of them all Israel.

So why should muslims be any different?

Of course ISIS and those self professed 'muslims' are the biggest bigots out there. That kill others out of their hatred.

In fact one could call it westophobia.

a reply to: StargateSG7


See

Case in point. This guy. You could not have time your post better to drive my point home. Thank you.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Fear is the mind-killer indeed.

Listen! They're all begging for protection. And the money-lenders are making their moves in perfect harmony.

a reply to: reldra

AND I QUOTE!!!!!!! "Please see the issue for what it is; a global battle to provoke youre stupidity."


YOUR!!!!!! Not youre... You are stupidity? Is that what YOU'RE telling me?

Gosh. He didn't even use an apostrophe and you still defended it.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

OP, I am not sure you get the bigger picture (first time im posting on that topic). I think anyone in their right mind knows that there are muslim people who want to live their lives out of all this and have nothing with these atrocities. It is correct, every person with that religion should not be flagged the same as those terrorists, many with their religion have already shown such attacks and executions have nothing to do with the teachings of that religion (although the idea of - everyone who is not muslim and christian is an enemy is something that comes from their ancient books and it seems - it depends on who is following what..).

THE WORLD POPULATION AND THE EARTH

As someone who comes from the ufo forums having lost any belief in those stories of aliens, it still makes me think - ARE WE EVOLVING OR DEVOLVING?

Weather anomalies, even then ozone hole I read recently once again reappeared at the south pole, Earth will punish too, unfortunately, anyone at any time - what are we people doing for it? Resources are depleting, POPULATION IS RISING.

I am sorry but I am starting to agree with some writings that talk about Keeping stable population on Earth - we are all mortals, generations change but at the same time population grows. How is population growing?

BIRTH - MANY CHILDREN - POVERTY

Which countries are with highest population? China, India, I will leave off the rest. You already know that people in Asia tend to give birth to a lot more children, and probably without thinking if they would have enough for all. China I think has always been a wise country, it is probably the first country that started thinking about their population and discouraged larger families with the higher taxes and such they would get. I will shorten this a bit... dont want to waste time:

POPULATION OF muslims vs non-muslims - particularly the west civilizations.

Statistics are made that measure after how many years the number of muslim people may go over that of non-muslims. Sure, we could still have a nice and happy living, though this may be in a century or more than one..

But sorry to sat this - the people of Asia are known to live with thinking that is way behind, sometimes century behind. If we go back in history -

What is the guarantee that one day, when the west gets outnumbered, they wont decide to just not be as tolerant as people are now for their things - does that mean we have to COMPETE in population???

No! Someone has to take measures of the FUTURE POPULATION, no one is saying we are a bad number now, as I said we are mortal... So this is where the people's fears are coming from and for a reason. I dont know what forum members have posted here and how insulting, im not following this unpleasant kind of topic.

I am glad you posted this,all i have to add is a

I believe the PTB are stirring the big pot of hatred between every group they possibly can; Christians vs Muslims, Black vs White, Gay vs Straight. The more fear and hate they can instill the easier it will be for them to implement the New World Order and International police state all in the name of stopping terrorism and civil unrest.

When you think about it it's only a mere handful of people who run the show and few thousand perhaps stupid enough to blow themselves up for their cause.

Now more than ever we need to band together as people and pull the brakes on this crazy train the PTB are trying to run off the rails.

Stay calm
Stay human
Stay humane

originally posted by: BrokedownChevy
a reply to: reldra

AND I QUOTE!!!!!!! "Please see the issue for what it is; a global battle to provoke youre stupidity."


YOUR!!!!!! Not youre... You are stupidity? Is that what YOU'RE telling me?

Gosh. He didn't even use an apostrophe and you still defended it.

I thought you meant the title. Ok, you found a typo, an extra e on the end.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: StargateSG7


See

Case in point. This guy. You could not have time your post better to drive my point home. Thank you.

I see your point.
The Machine is a powerful one,and can brainwash people as well as,if not better than the degenerates of IS.
It has more money and decades more practice.
Guess who made IS?
It was the machine,but you knew that I can see.

Sad days my friend.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: StargateSG7


See

Case in point. This guy. You could not have time your post better to drive my point home. Thank you.

Happy to oblige...I did get an absolute "A" in Rhetoric
and an honorary doctoral in Gaseous Bovine Excretology.... ;-) :-)

Now we just have to wait to see if P.T. Barnum was right .....

a reply to: StargateSG7

Well said.

Enough is enough.

a reply to: StargateSG7

This guy is berserk, but it's true. The moderators are basically saying intolerance will not be tolerated. In America hate groups are still protected under the law. We're supposed to protect liberty no matter what and the OP goes against liberty. Granted, ATS isn't America, but there's a lot left to be understood by the "tolerant" ones.

So my question is this.

What's the 'smart' way to handle a bunch of right wing neocons clinging to their guns, and religion spreading 'freedom and democracy around the world, and doesn't care how many people they kill accomplishing their end game?

And by that I mean radical Islamic extremists committing atrocity, after atrocity because 'allah' told them to.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

What does ISIS want?

If they get what they want, will they leave us alone?

Is peace even possible anymore?

What do we have to do to insure peace?

these are the questions many of us are asking. The answers are difficult.