Former George Bush Chief Economist Says 911 Was An Inside Job

a reply to: wildb

Just to let you know that story was fabricated, and here's the proof.

Bin Laden’s daughter confirms her father shot dead by US Special Forces in Pakistan

Senior Pakistani security officials said Osama bin Laden’s daughter had confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation carried out at the huge compound in Bilal Town, Abbottabad. 



www.alarabiya.net...

confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead

Now that there is pretty darn funny, and pure propaganda... thanks for the laugh...

a reply to: wildb

Now that there is pretty darn funny, and pure propaganda... thanks for the laugh...

Can't be propaganda considering that the U.S. left its calling card at bin Laden's residence.

Photo: U.S. Leaves Calling Card at bin Laden's Residence

Because.

a reply to: aj023

It involved long time planning and execution that exceeded Bin Laden's capabilities and took failures that only could exist at the localized level.

It did take long term planning ..... So what makes you think that Bin Laden was not capable of executing such a plan

Lot of it involves racism - ie Arabs are bunch of ignorant goat f******* living in caves . Right ??

Similar attitudes were present in 1930's - Japanese were JAPS, buck tooth squint eye monkeys who could not see well
enough to fly a plane, let alone hit anything with a bomb

In was in 1999 that plan took shape - evolving from original BOJINKA plan involving bombing multiple (11) airlines
on Pacific flights by Ramzi Yousef . Plan was uncovered in January 1995 when Yousef and another terrorist
Abdul Hakim Murad, started fire in their apartment when mixing chemicals to create liquid explosive

en.wikipedia.org...

Yousef had done a test flight, planting bomb on Philippines Airline 434 which killed one passenger and badly damaged the
plane (Boeing 747)

en.wikipedia.org...

Police showed up at apartment and captured Murad when went back to get laptop containing the details of the plot

Yousef's uncle KSM (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed) later had brought Bojinka plan to Bin Laden . Bin Laden cut the
original 10 planes to be hijacked to 4 because it was too complex

Starting in 1999 Bin Laden and KSM started number of probes to determine feasibility of plot

Check out AMERICA WEST FLIGHT 90 from Phoenix to Wash DC in Nov 1999 - 2 Saudi "students " on plane linked to
Bin Laden organization . One of the "students" walked from coach into first class and tried to open cockpit door

Flight crew so freaked out by incident that on stop in Dayton Ohio FBI hauled the 2 saudi off plane and gave them
3rd degree - were not able to prove anything and let them go .

Object was to test if cockpit door locked (prior to 911 many were not) and what kind of response would result

Told them - cockpit was locked and would need to secure key from flight crew, entering first class from coach
would result in flight crew viewing it with alarm. Hijackers would have to be in first class from start

www.americanthinker.com...

www.bizjournals.com...

Another operative named Walid Attash took number of flights at this time carrying various types of knives - Swiss Army
]knives, Leatherman tools, Stanley utility knives - often called box cutters by media

Attash found could get knives on plane (anything with blade less than 4 in were legal prior to 911)

In January 2000 two Bin Laden operatives Khalid Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi arrived in California with intent to learn how to fly . Neither was well educated and spoke English and failed at flight training.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

Told them to be able to succeed at flight training would need well educated people who understood English

It was appearance of the Hamburg Cell with Mohammed Atta - which allowed plot to continue

en.wikipedia.org...

Maybe instead of drinking Kool Aid from idiotic web sites should do some research

AMERICA'S SECRET WAR by Dr George Friedman of Stratfor private intelligence

THE SHADOW FACTORY by James Bamford

THE ELEVENTH DAY by Anthony Summers and Robin Swan

All contain details of how the plot was created and unfolded

I did a quick read of your comments and the assertions were insane.

The type of weapon used was complex and it involved long term planning and funding that took as advantage of flaws at the local level and involved capabilities only found in organizations such as the black budget of the US government and other entities. The first flaw is evidence of the airplanes which was faked. I have verified the evidence with my own eyes and with valid FAA information. As someone who was investigating the matter and saw the negative effects of the NSA wiretapping program which crossed paths with this and people gelling the truth who were killed and people I knew of, I have seen how this was done and what exactly happened. I am someone who understands who the aviation experts are and know who I respect and I admire talented people making contributions who are honest and trustworthy. But when it comes to profit, many people will do anything to make that happen including murder and eliminating competitors and committing serious fraud in the process.

Osama Bin Laden had no capability to launch directed energy inside the USA nor bypass secure airspace by the pentagon and get a missile warhead to hit the pentagon building off the beltway and so much more. It needed inside resources in the building and space based and military assets. Since when has Bin Laden launched a single satellite into orbit and can compete with the technology that the USA has with the national reconnisance office which was only mentioned in more recent years.

What we saw in Manhattan was similiar to USA strikes in Iraq where directed energy weapons was used. You had intense energy where what looked like fires which were not thermal in nature burn for days. It destroyed steel but it was not hot to the touch.

Sorry but this was not a Bin Laden job. Even educated people I know of with thermodynamics degrees at top universities and so on would have not been able to pull off these challenges because of lack of budgetary requirements needed as well as face super difficult challenges.

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: aj023

It involved long time planning and execution that exceeded Bin Laden's capabilities and took failures that only could exist at the localized level.

It did take long term planning ..... So what makes you think that Bin Laden was not capable of executing such a plan

Lot of it involves racism - ie Arabs are bunch of ignorant goat f******* living in caves . Right ??

Similar attitudes were present in 1930's - Japanese were JAPS, buck tooth squint eye monkeys who could not see well
enough to fly a plane, let alone hit anything with a bomb

In was in 1999 that plan took shape - evolving from original BOJINKA plan involving bombing multiple (11) airlines
on Pacific flights by Ramzi Yousef . Plan was uncovered in January 1995 when Yousef and another terrorist
Abdul Hakim Murad, started fire in their apartment when mixing chemicals to create liquid explosive

en.wikipedia.org...

Yousef had done a test flight, planting bomb on Philippines Airline 434 which killed one passenger and badly damaged the
plane (Boeing 747)

en.wikipedia.org...

Police showed up at apartment and captured Murad when went back to get laptop containing the details of the plot

Yousef's uncle KSM (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed) later had brought Bojinka plan to Bin Laden . Bin Laden cut the
original 10 planes to be hijacked to 4 because it was too complex

Starting in 1999 Bin Laden and KSM started number of probes to determine feasibility of plot

Check out AMERICA WEST FLIGHT 90 from Phoenix to Wash DC in Nov 1999 - 2 Saudi "students " on plane linked to
Bin Laden organization . One of the "students" walked from coach into first class and tried to open cockpit door

Flight crew so freaked out by incident that on stop in Dayton Ohio FBI hauled the 2 saudi off plane and gave them
3rd degree - were not able to prove anything and let them go .

Object was to test if cockpit door locked (prior to 911 many were not) and what kind of response would result

Told them - cockpit was locked and would need to secure key from flight crew, entering first class from coach
would result in flight crew viewing it with alarm. Hijackers would have to be in first class from start

www.americanthinker.com...

www.bizjournals.com...

Another operative named Walid Attash took number of flights at this time carrying various types of knives - Swiss Army
]knives, Leatherman tools, Stanley utility knives - often called box cutters by media

Attash found could get knives on plane (anything with blade less than 4 in were legal prior to 911)

In January 2000 two Bin Laden operatives Khalid Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi arrived in California with intent to learn how to fly . Neither was well educated and spoke English and failed at flight training.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

Told them to be able to succeed at flight training would need well educated people who understood English

It was appearance of the Hamburg Cell with Mohammed Atta - which allowed plot to continue

en.wikipedia.org...

Maybe instead of drinking Kool Aid from idiotic web sites should do some research

AMERICA'S SECRET WAR by Dr George Friedman of Stratfor private intelligence

THE SHADOW FACTORY by James Bamford

THE ELEVENTH DAY by Anthony Summers and Robin Swan

All contain details of how the plot was created and unfolded

a reply to: aj023

Airplanes evidence faked ???

Directed energy weapons ???

Missile smuggled into Pentagon ?????

a reply to: aj023

When is that movie coming out?

a reply to: skyeagle409

I was watching Chris Christie's town hall and I like him as a candidate and as a person and as Governor of New Jersey.

But in the conversation, anticipation of 9/11 came up and he mentioned the official false story line. I don't believe Christie was involved in the incident at all nor is there any culpability of his. But while he was vague with his statement, it clearly was not the official story portrayed to us and he specifically mentioned NJ governor Tom Kean and the 9/11 commission where even he admitted the commission report was set up to fail.

We need to realize military exercises were going on the same day about a rogue plane crash from Norad and Field Mcconnell actually mentioned the exercise name which was the exact senario played out in a war game senario prior to 9/11/2001. It is viewable on the internet and a google search will bring up the information.

Expert pilots and aircraft manufacturers fully understand the limitations of aircraft and those experts prove 9/11/2001 as being caused by hijacked aircraft to be fundamentally impossible. That is fact and not fiction.

The top speed of the fastest US Military jets is a classified secret still FYI.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

Just to let you know that story was fabricated, and here's the proof.

Bin Laden’s daughter confirms her father shot dead by US Special Forces in Pakistan

Senior Pakistani security officials said Osama bin Laden’s daughter had confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation carried out at the huge compound in Bilal Town, Abbottabad. 



www.alarabiya.net...

how would she know for sure. body dumped in ocean so they wouldn't have to show proof especially to relatives that could identify the body. And bin laden family has been in cahoots with CIA, proof being how they got shipped out while the rest of the airlines were grounded.

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: aj023

Airplanes evidence faked ???

Directed energy weapons ???

Missile smuggled into Pentagon ?????

supposedly this forum is censored to keep nutty no planes and energy weapons theories out so let's see if that guy is banned (actually it's censored to keep real facts out)

a reply to: skyeagle409

Yeah, and James Earl Ray admitted he killed MLK, but he did not.

a reply to: aj023

Good post sir.

The damage observed at WTC could not possibly have come from office fires on 8 floors way up high.

Massive explosions happening seconds before the airplane strike, as reported by Rodriguez and work mates, prove that something besides burning office fires were at play, proving it was controlled demolition of some sort, including nuclear devices.

originally posted by: Salander
.... proving it was controlled demolition of some sort, including nuclear devices.

You guys who are so critical of the OS need to step up and call BS on claims like this if you want to be taken seriously.

There's absolutely no way they could have detonated a nuclear device in Manhattan and kept it secret.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: HorusChrist

he denied it and later videos of him mistranslated what he said

Apparently, he changed his mind.

Bin Laden Admits 9/11 Responsibility, Warns of More Attacks

A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television Friday showed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden admitting for the first time that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and saying the United States could face more.

www.foxnews.com...

no shock foxnews lied about that, they mistranslated it, in the videos he never mentioned doing 9/11.

sky eagle why do you think Obama lied about dumping Bin Laden's body in the ocean? I mean you agree at least that was an obvious lie right? I mean they just didn't want to show pics for proof for some reason . . . maybe you have a theory?

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: Salander
.... proving it was controlled demolition of some sort, including nuclear devices.

You guys who are so critical of the OS need to step up and call BS on claims like this if you want to be taken seriously.

There's absolutely no way they could have detonated a nuclear device in Manhattan and kept it secret.

I think they could have kept it secret . . . as it is no one questions while all the ground zero first responders are getting cancer . . . but I don't think it was a nuke just cuz there's no evidence for that like there is for nano thermite controlled demo.

a reply to: HorusChrist

There was no nuclear fallout that occurred from traditional nuclear processes. That does not mean that fusion was not going on. It meant it was not traditional nuclear processes as derived in nuclear physics. In fact tritium was uncovered. This isn't the appropriate place for teaching the advanced physics courses but it is heavily related to what happened here.

A lot was going on and some theories are just ludicrous not based in real fact or meant to be disinformation campaigns.

a reply to: HorusChrist

Since Osama bin Laden was her dad, why wouldn't she know?

a reply to: HorusChrist

Actually not. Remember, on multiple occasions, Osama bin Laden issued 'Declarations of War" against the United States.

Osama bin Laden's Call to War

PBS: Mr. bin Laden, you have issued a fatwah calling on Muslims to kill Americans where they can, when they can. Is that directed at all Americans, just the American military, just the Americans in Saudi Arabia? bin Ladin: Allah has ordered us to glorify the truth and to defend Muslim land, especially the Arab peninsula ... against the unbelievers. After World War II, the Americans grew more unfair and more oppressive towards people in general and Muslims in particular. ...

The Americans started it and retaliation and punishment should be carried out following the principle of reciprocity, especially when women and children are involved. Through history, American has not been known to differentiate between the military and the civilians or between men and women or adults and children. Those who threw atomic bombs and used the weapons of mass destruction against Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the Americans. Can the bombs differentiate between military and women and infants and children? America has no religion that can deter her from exterminating whole peoples.

Your position against Muslims in Palestine is despicable and disgraceful. America has no shame. ... We believe that the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. Nothing could stop you except perhaps retaliation in kind. We do not have to differentiate between military or civilian. As far as we are concerned, they are all targets, and this is what the fatwah says .... The fatwah is general (comprehensive) and it includes all those who participate in, or help the Jewish occupiers in killing Muslims.

www.pbs.org...


April 4th, 2002: al Qaeda statement

The first charge of the heroes of the New York and Washington attacks was obedience to all of their orders, an obedience that was established before their departure to the enemy's land, beginning with the hero Ahmad al-Ghamdi, may Allah almighty have mercy on him...

We have put forth this directive in order to deliver a new blow to America and to expose to the world the fallacy of the American propaganda which claims it has irrefutable evidence regarding the warriors (mujahideen) who carried out the operation. It claims it has twenty-four thousand threads leading to knowledge of the agents of the operation. But what appears to it as evidence is weaker than a spider's web, and the American case cannot rely upon it to indict the suspects, let alone convince the world with it. In this directive we say to America that hiding all trace of the agents of the operation was not something we considered. Rather, some of the heroes were intent on leaving Islamic fingerprints on the operation. This is a new blow received by the American security agency that has looked here and there in confusion unlike anything ever seen before. On account of the hunt for a trace of the heroes who entered their country, noses have sniffed with honor and pride. [there then follows a lengthy justification explaining why they claim the attacks were permissible under Islam] These comments about the permissibility of the martyrdom operations in the attack of New York and Washington are taken from the book The Truth about the New Crusader War. Whoever wants further evidence and a detailed discussion of the matter should consult the entire book.

web.archive.org...://www.mepc.org/journal_vol10/alqaeda.html