Why Creation Is The Only Logical Explanation...

a reply to: Akragon

Should I have written disc?

a reply to: Phage


I am more inclined to believe it was an expansion based on something that even gravity couldn't hold from a previous contraction/compression... a disk would be more of a liner expansion rather then an explosion i would assume

a reply to: Phage

Sure it did just in a different way...
Even you are having a hard time understanding it today and I know you are not stupid...
But I believe the words used are a problem for you... not because you do not agree with the dumbed down version provided...
but instead with God being included in the process...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Raggedyman

You do know that it was not written in english, you do know meanings change

So, did the original say;
"In the beginning there was an accretion disk, formed by a combination of angular momentum and gravity..."

Actually Phage, my learned or unlearned Hermeneugetist as the case may be

The Hebrew word "Deep" in context can mean water, abyss and lifelessness and they are not even descriptions of the Hebrew word

You better go search that out

en.wiktionary.org...

How you can make a claim, a claim that theologians wont make is absurd

a reply to: 5StarOracle

God isn't exluded from such theories by the way...

Only the bible is...

a reply to: Akragon

Clearly it is not as it gives reference to the event...
And gives him the credit for the process...

a reply to: Raggedyman

The Hebrew word "Deep" in context can mean water, abyss and lifelessness and they are not even descriptions of the Hebrew word

So, it's sufficiently vague to cover any possibility. Expert metaphysics.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Akragon

Clearly it is not as it gives reference to the event...
And gives him the credit for the process...

No it doesn't...

Its a book from which we have no original copies...

AND



it wasn't ever meant to be a science book!

Even when they were written...

Again we're comparing puddles with what said bodies of water are actually made of...

a reply to: Phage

You mean an abstract theory or talk with no basis in reality?
That metaphysics?
Are you saying the Sun and Earth... That rock and water were not formed?

a reply to: 5StarOracle

You mean an abstract theory or talk with no basis in reality?

Actually, I mean what I said. Vague statements (often accompanied with a waving of arms) open to broad interpretation to demonstrate a point.

a reply to: Akragon

The bible is full of science...
Here's some examples for you...
Time and Space
The Beginning
An Initial Void
An Expanding Universe
Space is Empty
That Hole In The North
Air Has Weight
Those Singing Stars
Mathematics

a reply to: Phage

Sounds like an attempt to explain something to those who can't really grasp the process to me...
And I still think it did it rather well...
Of course I realize you are describing our attempts to reason what is being said by it...
So thanks for the insults...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

The bible is full of science...

No. The Bible is full of allegory and metaphor.
And you don't understand what science actually is.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Akragon

The bible is full of science...
Here's some examples for you...
Time and Space
The Beginning
An Initial Void
An Expanding Universe
Space is Empty
That Hole In The North
Air Has Weight
Those Singing Stars
Mathematics

I'm sorry, but are you being serious or are you merely seeing how many people are still bothering to turn up and respond? Because if you seriously think that a book of Bronze and Iron age myths is scientific in any way other than 'the sun rose' then I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to talk to you about selling. One careful owner.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Akragon

The bible is full of science...
Here's some examples for you...
Time and Space
The Beginning
An Initial Void
An Expanding Universe
Space is Empty
That Hole In The North
Air Has Weight
Those Singing Stars
Mathematics

You are correct...

those are "words" science seems to use...

a reply to: Phage

All I listed are testable examples...
Telling me I don't know what science is...
You don't know what is... with me...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

All I listed are testable examples..

And the Bible provides the tests, and results?

You don't know what is... with me...

Huh?

a reply to: Phage

It sure has a lot of scientific examples and provides answers and or explanation of scientific matters...

Is not the forming of the Sun and the Earth Science?

You said I don't know what science is...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

It sure has a lot of scientific examples and provides answers and or explanation of scientific matters...

All the same answer. God did it.

Is not the forming of the Sun and the Earth Science?

No. It was a process.

a reply to: Phage

What we have been discussing is scientific method because what is stated is an observation explaining the events...