Repent you Sinners, and bow down to ALL that is Holy, er NOT.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: spav5
Finally a pope that is not mired in the dogma of hate and prejudice..how heinous!

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

Matthew 24: 9-12

If what he says is popular with everyone, even non-Christians ... then maybe there is something wrong with it? It's supposed to be what's in the Bible, not what people want to hear.

In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

2 Timothy 4: 1-5

Bu this Pope is busy telling you all what you want to hear, so you flock to him. It may fill his pews, but that's about all it does.

I see that he is not so popular with you and many others who use the bible to support their narrow minded beliefs.

So what you really mean is that YOU don't agree with him so the end times must be near.

What's next?

An Obama Theocracy?



Democrats need the Christian vote !!

Up until my mid 20's, biblical descriptions of the end times never made sense to me. Epidemics of depravity, entire nations following false prophets to their destruction...I thought nah, people aren't that stupid. Besides, it's all in this book that billions of people study every Sunday. No way they would fall into stuff like that.

That was before I got to know humanity. Now the biblical prophecies don't seem so far-fetched.

originally posted by: xuenchen
What's next?

An Obama Theocracy?

Democrats need the Christian vote !!

Does that mean I finally get to call the current administration a bunch of 'bitter right wingers clinging to their guns and religion?'

Please say yes!

a reply to: neo96

That is really speaking generally, have they said don't listen to the pope at all or that the pope was preaching things they didn't think were aligned with the religion he headed?

a reply to: OpenMindedRealist

Epidemics of depravity, entire nations following false prophets to their destruction...I thought nah, people aren't that stupid.

Happens all the time. So called Biblical prophecies coming true are nothing more that history repeating itself. That's not a hard thing to predict.

a reply to: OpenMindedRealist

You know, I thought the same thing. And this coming from a guy who at the age of 7, read the book of revelations like it was a Dr. Suess book.

originally posted by: xuenchen
What's next?

An Obama Theocracy?

Perhaps The Pope, and Obama could pray a prayer for the EPA,
call on them to repent of their latest dirty deeds and be whole again.

Still not sure why anyone thinks what the pope is saying is bad?

He isn't a marxist or a socialist or a communist as that lunatic Michael Savage would have you think. LOL

He's saying that we need to take care of our planet and our poor and he's been tying income inequality with corporate greed. We can all agree that taking care of our planet and less pollution is always good, we can all agree that corporate greed is bad. I'm just not seeing the issue or why so much hatred for him from conservatives?

a reply to: burntheships

And the Pope can take Confession from all members of Congress !!!

a reply to: xuenchen

Great idea, both houses could use some cleansing!
The term white washed comes to mind for some reason.

But, then that would really have an effect, maybe even too much
so that if the hearts and minds were cleansed and put back to
work with a proper functioning, we might not need a global
"Climate Change" tax.

a reply to: amazing

He isn't a marxist or a socialist or a communist as that lunatic Michael Savage would have you think. LOL

There is nothing spiritual about materialism.

So that leaves what ?

a reply to: spav5

I'm glad you can read my mind so well.

Why aren't you posting regularly on what's going to happen in Pred. and Prophecies? As masterful as you are at reading someone else's mind you would surely be able to foretell the future there.

Honestly, you must win every single Powerball drawing too. How many of them have you won?

Oh, and who is going to win the Super Bowl this year?

In other words, it is amply clear that you entirely missed my point.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Jesus was a globalist? Jesus had an opinion and interjected himself into debate over global warming?

So Jesus wouldn't have had an opinion on global warming because you say so?

Did Jesus even once say "atheists who do good are redeemed?" (I'll answer this one here, Jesus said exactly the opposite: "No one can come to the Father except through me." as for the 'do good' portion: "As Faith without works is dead, so are works without Faith equally dead.")

Let me break a few things down for you.

The "atheists who do good are redeemed" bit is a misquote out of context. Here's what he said:

"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all. And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter: We need that so much. We must meet one another doing good. 'But I don't believe, Father, I am an atheist!' But do good: We will meet one another there."

What this actually means is that a) Jesus redeemed the world and that b) everyone is created in God's image. Redemption is not the same as salvation. Redemption is what Jesus obtained through sacrifice. A person would still need to accept salvation. The upshot here is that there is goodness in everyone, even people outside of the Church, even atheists and that can be a starting point.

As for the bit from James, Chapter 2. I don't know where you've gotten your translation but I'm thinking you might be paraphrasing badly and so you've now moved on from misquoting the Pope and taking his words out of context to doing the same thing with James. The closest resemblances "As Faith without works is dead, so are works without Faith equally dead." has are James 2:17, "So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead" and James 2:27, "For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead." In either case, even without the context, the meaning is quite obvious. It's not enough to talk the talk, you have to walk the walk.

Jesus would have appeared happily on the covers of Esquire, Rolling Stone, Time, and other magazines?

What's the problem? I'm guessing you think that it demonstrates a lack of humility? How is it any different than any other member of the clergy standing before a congregation? Imagine your congregation is a billion people?

Did Jesus call the Bread His body, or his 'brother?'

I'm not sure what this is referring to but I'm sure you'll supply some link?

Did Jesus advocate "scolding God" or "negotiating" with Him in prayer, or did He teach His people to pray for God's Will to be done?

Well you're just full of out of context one liners. Read here. He actually makes reference, if I'm not mistaken to Matthew 6:5-8 which is about not babbling repetitiously and instead being frank and honest in prayer because "Do not be like them; your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

Did Jesus ever once call for government's to redistribute wealth, or did He say "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's?" Did Jesus rent out holy sites to wealthy "investors" as Francis has done withe the Sistine Chapel, or did Jesus overturn the money changers' tables and rage on the practice?

What he said was "Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." It has nothing to do with wealth redistribution (for or against) but rather it's a parable about the obvious differences between obedience to God and obedience to earthly rulers.

Jesus went off in the temple because he was disgusted to see greedy people (who would no doubt be staunch capitalists today) profiting from the sale of animals to be used as offerings to God.

originally posted by: neo96
There is nothing spiritual about materialism.

So that leaves what ?

Isn't it God (Insert deity of choice here) who created the Universe?

If the material world isn't spiritual, then I suppose that nothing is spiritual.

I say the the universe is made up with the pairing of nothing and energy on the sub-atomic scale. If that isn't a 'Miracle of Creation', then I don't know what an atom consists of and neither does CERN (yet).

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: spav5

I'm glad you can read my mind so well.

Why aren't you posting regularly on what's going to happen in Pred. and Prophecies? As masterful as you are at reading someone else's mind you would surely be able to foretell the future there.

Honestly, you must win every single Powerball drawing too. How many of them have you won?

Oh, and who is going to win the Super Bowl this year?

In other words, it is amply clear that you entirely missed my point.

I have no idea what you are responding to.

a reply to: neo96

Well thank you for telling me what I think. I mean really I had no clue.

What I have said for the last 5 years, and continue to say is. It's not the function of the state to rob from the rich so the poor can go out, and buy more stuff.

I don't push greed, and materialism sanctioned by either the Church or STATE.

Sure you do, you push greed and materialism sanctioned by the wealthiest few who control everything. That's a fact. What you don't like are rich people having to pay taxes. I'm surprised you haven't launched into your own sermon about how the wealthy are more persecuted in their way than even Jesus.

a reply to: masqua

I seem to remember the seven deadly sins.

Among them are,envy,greed, and ,sloth.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

Well thank you for telling me what I think. I mean really I had no clue.

What I have said for the last 5 years, and continue to say is. It's not the function of the state to rob from the rich so the poor can go out, and buy more stuff.

I don't push greed, and materialism sanctioned by either the Church or STATE.

Sure you do, you push greed and materialism sanctioned by the wealthiest few who control everything. That's a fact. What you don't like are rich people having to pay taxes. I'm surprised you haven't launched into your own sermon about how the wealthy are more persecuted in their way than even Jesus.

Oh please.

I push every single person in this country is EQUAL, and the state has NO RIGHT to violate a minorities 14th amendment rights to LIFE,LIBERTY,PROPERTY, and the pursuit of happiness. To pay for the mobs every little wish.

Rich people DO PAY taxes contrary to popular DOGMA.

a reply to: neo96

What do those 'deadly sins' have to do with the material world?

Those sins are in the minds of people.

In my mind, it's also a sin to take a crap in my back yard and, by extension, to screw up the planet for future generations of people. Now that's just greedy.