9/11 Bombshell: Methodical Deception -- Rebekah Roth

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Ah yes, good Ole Rob Balsamo again. He used to be on ATS, he left long ago because he got embarrassed by the number of times he was shown to be wrong. Nobody takes him seriously. Then you might want to update your info on Mr. Kinder too, he was answering questions about jets in 2004.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: six67seven
Do you want to post a pic of the 1920 West Point class ring that you say is similar to Lemnitzers ring? Or not?

Sure, as soon as I find one.

I posted the pic you requested....

Not really. I asked for a close up, it was just cropped.

You also avoided my question, why would a non-Mason be wearing a Masonic ring?

HA... you never asked 'why would a non-Mason were a Masonic ring?" Your memory is poor!

Nice try. Like I said.. I wont hold my breath waiting for you to produce a pic of the 1920 West Point class ring because I know you dont have the balls to post the 1920 West Point class ring...

SO I WILL and put this to rest... for us... of course:


USMA Class of 1920 - otherwise known as "source"

It looks NOTHING like Lemnitzer's ring lmao...
Lemnitzer's ring:

Nice effort

originally posted by: six67seven
HA... you never asked 'why would a non-Mason were a Masonic ring?" Your memory is poor!

Uh, yeah, I did, two pages ago:

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Because it did not look like a Masonic ring. Why would a guy who is not a Mason wear a Masonic ring? The only place claiming he is a Mason is the notoriously spurious freemasonrywatch.org where they even think the Queen and the Pope are Masons.

Nice try. Like I said.. I wont hold my breath waiting for you to produce a pic of the 1920 West Point class ring because I know you dont have the balls to post the 1920 West Point class ring...

SO I WILL and put this to rest... for us... of course:

Thank you for posting one, I appreciate you linking it.

It looks NOTHING like Lemnitzer's ring

No, it does not. Neither does it look Masonic.

a reply to: jude11

This is the most interesting 9/11 information to come out ever! Check out this interview. They go into one of the diagrams that was drawn by the "students" where it lays out the buildings columns, elevators, and empty floors above them, which should be empty. How these art students knew so much about that building is a smoking gun!

Actually, it does to me.

But we can't 100% confirm for all due to the lack of available sources. But thanks to readily available sources we have 100% confirmed it does NOT resemble the 1920 West Point class ring, as you suggested for some odd reason.

Thanks!

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

My advice is that you don't take Rob Balsamo of "Pilots For 9/11 Truth" seriously.

As a pilot myself since 1969, and as President of an aviation-related chapter whose members include commercial and military pilots, instructor and private pilots, sport and student pilots, FAA-certified inspectors and maintenance personnel and military maintenance personnel, military and civil aviation retirees, I have gone head-to-head with Rob Balsamo because I caught him posting disinformation and in some cases, outright lies in another forum.

I noticed that he was committing so many blunders in regard to aircraft performance and airframe limitations that I questioned whether he was actually a real pilot at all, but another poster later told me that he was.

To sum it up, he continues to post disinformation and lies on his website.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

It looks NOTHING like Lemnitzer's ring

No, it does not. Neither does it look Masonic.

Actually, it does to me.

But we can't 100% confirm for all due to the lack of available sources. But thanks to readily available sources we have 100% confirmed it does NOT resemble the 1920 West Point class ring, as you suggested for some odd reason.

Thanks!

originally posted by: six67seven
But we can't 100% confirm for all due to the lack of available sources. But thanks to readily available sources we have 100% confirmed it does NOT resemble the 1920 West Point class ring, as you suggested for some odd reason.

You find it odd that a West Point grad would have a West Point class ring?


Did you miss that question again? How about an answer?

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

Ah yes, good Ole Rob Balsamo again. He used to be on ATS, he left long ago because he got embarrassed by the number of times he was shown to be wrong. Nobody takes him seriously.

You are correct! Rob Balsamo has been discredited and cannot be taken seriously.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: six67seven
But we can't 100% confirm for all due to the lack of available sources. But thanks to readily available sources we have 100% confirmed it does NOT resemble the 1920 West Point class ring, as you suggested for some odd reason.

You find it odd that a West Point grad would have a West Point class ring?


Did you miss that question again? How about an answer?

I treat others as they do me, so we each can go about our ways with a question unanswered.

Dont hold your breath buddy!

And try to stay on topic... 9/11 Bombshell: Methodical Deception -- Rebekah Roth

LMAO!!!

a reply to: skyeagle409

well personal feelings aside he did post the maintenance log showing the evidence I quoted. It wasn't just his say so.

I think enough has been said about the phone call topic. Neither you nor I nor anyone probably, has personal knowledge experience or information to be able to categorically say its the "truth". We can only go on what we find hear discuss and watch. We do however have logic common sense & objectivity

Ted Olsen lied about speaking to his wife twice. That is fact. That is evidence produced at the Moussri trial by the FBI they acknowledge Ted Olsen could not have spoken to his wife as her calls weren't connected. Is one lie acceptable?

The Masonic ring derailment is interesting. I blew it up and laid vectors over it. It looks very much like a Masonic symbol.

My dad was a Mason. He got me started on conspiracy theories. He was a marine in WII, and said we had prior knowledge of Pearl Harbor. He also exposed me to things like the Tuskegee Airmen. I would tell him my young thoughts on government and control methods. He told me I was right, but If I went on about it, the world would make life very difficult for me. So far, I just don't get invited to parties.

If it adds anything, he thought gays should be exterminated. Yup, he was a little crazy, but my small town loved him. I also got some of his insanity (not the gay thing, though).

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Phone logs are available that prove that phone calls were made. In addition, I have caught Rob distorting ACARS data as well. That is the way he works.

a reply to: jude11

Check out this photo. They have all the columns, elevators schedules, and hidden parts of the buildings in the drawing. This is just too weird. You can go to their website and view then photos yourself.


gelitin.net...

originally posted by: gentledissident
The Masonic ring derailment is interesting. I blew it up and laid vectors over it. It looks very much like a Masonic symbol.

My dad was a Mason. He got me started on conspiracy theories. He was a marine in WII, and said we had prior knowledge of Pearl Harbor. He also exposed me to things like the Tuskegee Airmen. I would tell him my young thoughts on government and control methods. He told me I was right, but If I went on about it, the world would make life very difficult for me. So far, I just don't get invited to parties.

If it adds anything, he thought gays should be exterminated. Yup, he was a little crazy, but my small town loved him. I also got some of his insanity (not the gay thing, though).

Well welcome to the party! Table for three?

Can you post the blown pic w/ vectors?

originally posted by: six67seven
I treat others as they do me, so we each can go about our ways with a question unanswered.

Which question would you like me to answer?

Dont hold your breath buddy!

Is that your typical MO? Petulant even after you insulted my memory and were shown otherwise?

I admitted that the ring in the photo does not resemble the one you linked, you on the other hand want to act like a child. Put your big person pants on and answer the question.

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport Sorry, but it has been pointed out that the FBI said several calls from Flight 77 were made to Ted Olson's office. You are like informer, you keep confusing cell phones with the onboard radiotelephones (I'm going to use radiotelephone now, maybe it will help clear up the confusion shown by folks on here). Anyway, it was introduced that several radiotelephone calls were made from Flight 77 to Ted Olson's office. There was also affidavits from an ATT Operator who spoke to Barbra Olson and three employees from the DoJ that talked to Barbra.

a reply to: skyeagle409

My statement regarding the Olsen call is nothing to do with Balsamo it is from the evidence at the Mousouai trial where it was stated in evidence that Barbara Olsens' call was not connected and last 0 s therefore Ted Olsen lied

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: six67seven
I treat others as they do me, so we each can go about our ways with a question unanswered.

Which question would you like me to answer?

Dont hold your breath buddy!

Is that your typical MO? Petulant even after you insulted my memory and were shown otherwise?

I admitted that the ring in the photo does not resemble the one you linked, you on the other hand want to act like a child. Put your big person pants on and answer the question.

I dont have an MO.
And no, I wont answer your frivalous question because you wouldnt post the pic that was easily located with a google search...and you had ample time because you kept replying to me over and over and chose not to post because you knew you were in the wrong.

I am not in any wrong, I simply posed a question about a ring that piqued my interest, and you responded - quite irresponsibly I might add - and now you're trying to save face by coming at me. But buddy...its too late. Im done with you!

Good day!

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport now, go through the rest of the evidence presented. you know, the phone calls from the radio telephone that went from Flight 77 to Ted Olson's office. Quit getting hung up over the CELLPHONE call from Barbra's phone that did not connect.