9/11 Bombshell: Methodical Deception -- Rebekah Roth

a reply to: Informer1958

That won't work either and let's not forget that you are the person who'd claimed the FBI does not make mistakes, a claim that I knew, was false and the reason why I posted a few of the FBI's mistakes for all to read.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Evidence please, because the overwhelming majority of structural and civil engineers, architects, demolition experts and even firefighters support the Official Story.

This is a proven fallacy as well. I see you are sticking to the same old script that was debunk years ago.

a reply to: skyeagle409

That won't work either and let's not forget that you are the person who'd claimed the FBI does not make mistakes, a claim that I knew, was false and the reason why I posted a few of the FBI's mistakes for all to read.

So you are saying the FBI out right LIED then?

Where your evidence? And please don't use 911 Myths again.

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

And according to American Airlines records, and media stories including announcements from American Airlines, the phones were active until March 31, 2002, when they were deactivated on all domestic aircraft. She may have been a flight attendant, but that doesn't mean she's right about everything. The airline records show that the phones were in use at the time, and that's a lot more telling than a flight attendant saying there were no phones.

The Airphone system in use on American airlines DID allow for collect calls. The person using the phone would call an operator and they could make a collect call.

These are the AT&T records, notice the notes:



"Collect or credit card could have been used." That indicates that collect calls ARE possible from the system.

From a 1994 news article about the Claircom system (that's the system that was in use on American Airlines:

Claircom Communications will introduce ground-to-air calls this year.

Unlike GTE Airfone, you don't need a credit card to gain access to the phone. You can press a button to pop the phone out, dial 0 for the operator and call collect, or bill it to your calling card.

articles.chicagotribune.com...

So they could have been calling collect from the system.

a reply to: six67seven I could not make it through the first five minutes of her interview without throwing the BS flag six times. Her book, is just as poorly done as any other by anyone in the 9/11 truth movement. Anyone that still sticks to that BBC article from September 2001 is only showing how idiotic they are.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You again huh?!

Right, because a guy who graduated from the Point would have only one ring on in every picture of him and it would just happen to be *dun dun dunnnnnn* an evil Masonic one!!!!

So you're saying Masons are evil now?? That's a leap even for you!

Not seeing a Square and Compasses in that.

I bet you dont see a West Point class ring either.... or are you still mum on that from your very first response about it??

a reply to: skyeagle409

It is now easier to make calls at altitude due to the introduction of the Pico cell to aircrafts satellite based system. USA today carried a story regarding this in 2004

a reply to: Zaphod58 It isn't going to matter to her...she is convinced that the video is accurate....no matter how much evidence you show her. No matter what happens, she is hardwired to buy the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

originally posted by: six67seven
So you're saying Masons are evil now?? That's a leap even for you!

Of course we are.

I bet you dont see a West Point class ring either.... or are you still mum on that from your very first response about it??

It certainly looks more like a class ring than one with a Square and Compasses.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: six67seven
So you're saying Masons are evil now?? That's a leap even for you!

Of course we are.

I bet you dont see a West Point class ring either.... or are you still mum on that from your very first response about it??

It certainly looks more like a class ring than one with a Square and Compasses.

IT DOES???

Do you even know what the class ring looks like???

Please post!! for "US" ... this should be good!!! I wont hold my breath!! LOL

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: jude11

I may be wrong in my assessment of this source's reliability but she lost me when she discussed the so called BB-18 fuse holders. Go to the site she links, Littlefuse, and look at the specifications for BB-18 and it is not fuse holders at all. they are industrial grade high voltage terminal lugs. I seriously doubt something like that would be even remotely used in demolition. 115 volt 1000 amp rating with a wire size range from no. 10 to 1/0 wire. I was an industrial electrician and, needless to say, that is not wire used for demolition. That is wire used for electrical distribution.

Sad part is I wasted time and bandwidth watching the video.

I wouldn't put a whole lot of credence on a commonplace number on a box, BB-18. Could be anything really.

a reply to: Informer1958

I said the FBI was mistaken.

originally posted by: six67seven
IT DOES???

Indeed.

Do you even know what the class ring looks like???

I do. I gave you a link to them.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It is stated that 757s did have airphones fitted in 1998 however, these were deactivated in January 2001 but not ripped out until 2002 when the planes were fully serviced and overhauled. As I have already stated AA's own spokesman said that the crew didn't even have airphones on 757's and had other means of communication. The only AA planes that had airphones were 767s & 777s but even then only on international routes apparently.

A page from Boeing's Aircraft Maintenance Manual dated 28th January 2001 supplied by Rob Balsamo of Pilots for 9/11 Truth states quite clearly that

“The passenger telephone system was deactivated by ECO FO878.”

Therefore by January 28, 2001, the passenger phone system for the AA 757 fleet had already been deactivated although the phones were still in place until much later

Furthermore, Chad W Kinder Customer Relations Manager for AA stated in a reply to a query regarding the seatback phones that

“That is correct; we do not have phones on our Boeing 757. The passengers on flight 77 used their own personal cellular phones to make out calls during the terrorist attack

again evidence supplied by Rob Balsamo and verified by David Ray Griffin and as we now know cell phone calls weren't possible either....how or where were these calls made?

originally posted by: ugmold

I wouldn't put a whole lot of credence on a commonplace number on a box, BB-18. Could be anything really.

It is most likely Cooper B-Line strut which I linked earlier.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

On another site I recall it was stated all these boxes were in fact empty. The art students were using them as room dividers and to stop people seeing what they were doing

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: six67seven
IT DOES???

Indeed.

Do you even know what the class ring looks like???

I do. I gave you a link to them.

Them??

There aren't multiple class rings for the 1920 West Point class.

Do you want to post a pic of the 1920 West Point class ring that you say is similar to Lemnitzers ring? Or not?

I posted the pic you requested....

originally posted by: six67seven
Do you want to post a pic of the 1920 West Point class ring that you say is similar to Lemnitzers ring? Or not?

Sure, as soon as I find one.

I posted the pic you requested....

Not really. I asked for a close up, it was just cropped.

You also avoided my question, why would a non-Mason be wearing a Masonic ring?

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
On another site I recall it was stated all these boxes were in fact empty. The art students were using them as room dividers and to stop people seeing what they were doing

Hard to tell one way or the other if they are empty but they certainly look like Cooper's packaging for their B-Line products.