Prominant Iowa Conservative Talk Show Host: Wants To Make Illegal Aliens SLAVES!

Aren't all those "undocumented workers" already working, though? In crappy jobs nobody else wants, working long hours for lower than legal wages, in slave like circumstances?

Who hasn't seen the movie "Food Inc."… well, at least watch this clip.Corporations already enslave these people , corporations are protected by the government, any news about 'future plans to enslave workers' are disingenuous, they already are slaves to the corporate state.

The corporations don't want to document them, that would require them to pay more taxes, workmans comp, training, safety gear, etc.

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: muse7

No, there are people here saying he should be fired, be punished for what he said.

Not very "free-speechy" if you ask me.

For someone so vehemently against Political Correctness, you seem to get offended by other's people's opinions very easily.

For the people saying that he should be fired...well that's their opinion and im sure you have yours too. However these opinions don't carry any weight in a court of law and even if this radio host gets fired will that take away his right to free speech?

If you can get punished for speaking your mind, then I'd say that it isn't very condusive to free speech.

Um. People get punished for speaking their minds in the Court of Public Opinion all the time! My goodness. Saying something completely incendiary is going to get backdraft, so to speak, once its out in the open and not behind closed doors.

Careers are made and broken over words spoken in public, or that become public. The First Amendment allows you to say whatever you want, but it doesn't protect you from people calling you out for it, or from your boss firing you, or your listenership abandoning you, or your advertisers (not sure if AM has any?) leaving you.

Back to the topic: The call to enslave people is beyond the pale of any reason - it is appalling in its essence and in its intent. It will not happen. If these yahoos think it will, then they need to be prepared for a vast majority of Americans rising up to stomp on them, because I really think that would push it over the edge entirely.

wishing for peace,
AB

originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
a reply to: enlightenedservant

And your the gift that won't get with the program huh. Please refrain from personal attacks. If you don't agree then fine that is your prerogative but let's not getting ugly about this.

I think you advocating the slavery of other humans is the epitome of UGLY.

a reply to: AboveBoard

I'll caveat that people make their own futures on what they say. But the climate on how people getting offended is getting out of hand, in my opinion. People have the same rights as they had 100 years ago.

It's just that more people are getting butt-hurt than ever before.

As for this slavery issue? Even if it was enacted, then there'd be nothing stopping forms of slavery on all races and ethnicities.

Once you open that particular Pandora's Box, there ain't no shutting it.

originally posted by: beezzer
If you can get punished for speaking your mind, then I'd say that it isn't very condusive to free speech.

If you get punished BY THE GOVERNMENT for speaking your mind, that violates free speech. Period.

If people disagree with you, if society berates you, if you lose business, if you lose your job, or you suffer ANY other consequences, it has nothing to do with free speech! It is FREEDOM of the people in action.

To blend the two ideas is laughable.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: beezzer
If you can get punished for speaking your mind, then I'd say that it isn't very condusive to free speech.

If you get punished BY THE GOVERNMENT for speaking your mind, that violates free speech. Period.

If people disagree with you, if society berates you, if you lose business, if you lose your job, or you suffer ANY other consequences, it has nothing to do with free speech! It is FREEDOM of the people in action.

To blend the two ideas is laughable.

Fair enough.

See my above post for clarification.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: AboveBoard

I'll caveat that people make their own futures on what they say. But the climate on how people getting offended is getting out of hand, in my opinion. People have the same rights as they had 100 years ago.

It's just that more people are getting butt-hurt than ever before.

As for this slavery issue? Even if it was enacted, then there'd be nothing stopping forms of slavery on all races and ethnicities.

Once you open that particular Pandora's Box, there ain't no shutting it.

People have the same rights they had 100 years ago?

I'm sure black people would disagree with you on that one.

But you're right. How dare people get outraged over an issue that over 600,000 Americans died to resolve?

a reply to: beezzer

Here's the thing with PC - it goes both ways. Someone says something on the Right - someone on the Left is offended and next thing its all over the web in soundbites - then someone on the Right says "PC BS" and then THAT is in soundbites all over the web. The internet has made our outrage instant and universal. It's not that people are getting more offended, its that there are more people aware of the offense and a built-in culture of "retaliation" has been set up on the web.

Reenacting slavery in the US is way past a final straw for me. There is no way in hell we are going back there, ever. Period. I agree that to open that door for "illegals" then leaves the door cracked open for "well, what about all those American's on welfare?" of whatever race they may be - Pandora's Box indeed.

peace,
AB

a reply to: Hefficide

And what year is this again? 1830? So who's next after Hispanics? I'm pretty sure it won't stop there.

Remember this quote:

"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out."

Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller (14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984)

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: AboveBoard

I'll caveat that people make their own futures on what they say. But the climate on how people getting offended is getting out of hand, in my opinion. People have the same rights as they had 100 years ago.

It's just that more people are getting butt-hurt than ever before.

As for this slavery issue? Even if it was enacted, then there'd be nothing stopping forms of slavery on all races and ethnicities.

Once you open that particular Pandora's Box, there ain't no shutting it.

People have the same rights they had 100 years ago?

I'm sure black people would disagree with you on that one.

But you're right. How dare people get outraged over an issue that over 600,000 Americans died to resolve?

Oh Chee-rist!

Drama-queen much?

Sorry about the 100 year reference!

(roll eyes)

Are you offended?

I'll take a class!

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
a reply to: enlightenedservant

And your the gift that won't get with the program huh. Please refrain from personal attacks. If you don't agree then fine that is your prerogative but let's not getting ugly about this.

I think you advocating the slavery of other humans is the epitome of UGLY.

I wasn't going to mention it but that's exactly what I was thinking. Rationalizing slavery of illegal immigrants is acceptable but calling someone out on it is ugly? Huh?

a reply to: beezzer

LOL @ butt hurt. I'm not butt hurt at all. Offended? Damn skippy I'm offended. Anyone with a soul should be offended by this guys total and complete lack of class and decorum.

FTR: Fighting words are not protected speech. Some of the best people I've known are hispanic and I personally take this pompous jerks position as a threat against them. Thusfighting words.

Oh, and obviously nobody, for the time being, is going to go along with this idiot. I am interested to see if Walker cancels his interview or not... or if any other candidates start saying they agree. But, let's be real. Today's shocking and over the top statements tend to end up tomorrows party line. THAT is why we should stand and voice our dissent against this kind of BS plainly, loudly, and without compromise.

Or we'll end up wishing we had. And I'll be damned if I stand quietly and watch something like this.

a reply to: AboveBoard

Reenacting slavery in the US is way past a final straw for me.

The GOP and their mouthpieces passed the "last straw" for me quite some time ago. They have become an extreme in and of themselves and that is why a lot of people with real conservative values have begun to back away from the party.

Their rhetoric, hatred and propaganda has nothing to do with constitutional conservative leadership and it's become nothing but a party for the hateful, ignorant and bigoted.

a reply to: Hefficide

We would all be damned if we stood by and watched it happen. It will not. We won't let it.

a reply to: AboveBoard

The ignorance on the history of outrage is astounding isn't it? Book burning, record burning, concern trolls sitting on committees for this, that and the other, letter writing campaigns, witch hunts (literal and figurative), punishing heretics with death...

The only thing that has changed with outrage is that it effects everyone now not just those that go against institutional and societal norms.

a reply to: Hefficide

yep they just hit the "wtf" fan. that guy shouldn't lose his right to free speech, but good grief, what an awful thing. : /

a reply to: Hefficide

Speak your mind.

But this is Cecil part deux.

It's something for people to get all worked up about, a "faux outrage tsunami" to swarm the 'net.

Then it'll disappear and next week we can get all worked up about something else.

Me?

Non-issue. Some guy said something stupid. *meh*

I'm still concerned about mental health issues. But I know that is so "last week" that no-one gives a damn anymore.

(present company excluded)

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
a reply to: enlightenedservant

And your the gift that won't get with the program huh. Please refrain from personal attacks. If you don't agree then fine that is your prerogative but let's not getting ugly about this.

I think you advocating the slavery of other humans is the epitome of UGLY.

And I think you misunderstanding what I'm saying is obtuse then to go on and regurgitate what seems to be the popular opinion in this thread is a desperate attempt for stars 👍

a reply to: TrappedPrincess

I think the popular opinion in this thread has been that slavery, and indentured servitude, is bad.

Wouldn't you agree with that?

a reply to: beezzer

As am I Beez. As am I... but when flames flare up, gotta douse them before getting back to the grind.