Planned Parenthood is Not Selling Baby Parts, You @!#$ing Idiots

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Absolutely. The simple fact of the matter is that in the U.S.,the states with the highest levels of teen pregnancy are states with Abstinence Only Until Marriage as the focus of or a state mandate for their versions of sex education. Mississippi is a prime example of this with the highest teen pregnancy rate in the U.S. With 55 per 1000 or 5.5% of teen girls becoming pregnant. Compare that with the nations lowest, New Hampshire with 16 per 1000 or 1.6 percent of teen girls becoming pregnant in a state that teaches what is usually referred to as comprehensive sex education. One thing that seems to get lost in these debates and that I find to be equally as important, is that the abstinence only states also have the highest rates of STD's contrasted by comprehensive sex ed. states which have, again, the lowest rates of STD's. And again, Mississippi is the highest at one end of the spectrum and New Hampshire is the lowest at the other end of the spectrum. The more comprehensive the education involved, the lower the rates of both pregnancies and STD's. Teaching abstinence only until marriage has the highest rates of both. Prevention of both pregnancy and STD transmission is one of the highest priorities for PP. I understand the faux moral outrage but people really need to get on board with what PP is actually putting its resources into as opposed to the 3% of their total resources that involve abortions because prevention should be right up there or even a part of the education. The more empowered and educated people of any age or gender are, the less likely they are to be in a position where they see abortion as their only way out. It seems like a win for both sides of the equation.

a reply to: peter vlar

Poverty plays a role there, as well. (Yeah, I know... now we'll have to look at a connection between poverty and the political slants that embrace abstinence... yadda, yadda.)

Might I suggest an old movie titled Soylent Green?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'm sure it does to an extent but I would argue that the degree of education involved plays a bigger role. If you're aware of safer sexual habits and are taught that you can get free condoms at planned parenthood, that combination right there will make a huge impact on the numbers. It's one of the reasons for PP's prevalence in lower income areas and not higher income areas. To give access to free or reduced cost prophylactics I.e. Condoms and birth control for women.

Does society not understand anymore how the so called important research that is going on with Planned Nazihood is extreme selfish behavoir.Your destroying life in order to advance your own life.Ptiyful how evil society can become.
Some of the worst selfish behavoir in mankind history.

a reply to: Char-Lee

Death is death however you slice it.
Why mince words for those who either hide from it or can't handle it?

you all seem to be ok with a few stitches costing $1500+ but somehow think theres a "massive profit" in selling parts of an aborted fetus for $100-200?


really?

and cavtrooper someone as enamored with violence and death as you are has absolutely no place saying death is death as if there could never be any conceivable reason
the hypocrisy is palpable

originally posted by: fartlordsupreme
you all seem to be ok with a few stitches costing $1500+ but somehow think theres a "massive profit" in selling parts of an aborted fetus for $100-200?


really?

and cavtrooper someone as enamored with violence and death as you are has absolutely no place saying death is death as if there could never be an conceivable reason
the hypocrisy is palpable

Your opinion on the poster, does not invalidate his statement.......

Nice personal attack though

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

i wasnt trying to invalidate his statement
death is death
no two ways about that
fairly childish thing to say really
soda is soda
boobs are boobs
blue is blue


the implication of his statement was that there is no conceivable justification for death
which is in fact hypocritical due to his stance on other issues relating to death
in what way is that opinion?

a reply to: peter vlar

Those statistics are BS. So is the notion of abstinence only sex ed. I went to school in MS. In fact, the town I live in didn't legalize liquor until 2 years ago, yet we've had comprehensive sex ed for as long as I can remember.

a reply to: fartlordsupreme

Why is it childish when clearly people have a hard time defining parameters on what is what.......

its been blatantly obvious all through this thread.......

the implication of his statement was that there is no conceivable justification for death
which is in fact hypocritical due to his stance on other issues relating to death
in what way is that opinion?

How is it hypocritical to not want innocent life to die?

a reply to: Bone75

I will concede 2 points.

First is that Mississippi and New Mexico go back and forth from one year to the next on who has the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country so for 2014 they might be in 2nd place and not first but they are nonetheless in the top 2.


Second point is that when you went to school, the sex Ed may have been more comprehensive but it has only been since 2012 that it has been state law to focus on more than abstinence only. It sounds like your school was one of the lucky few.

And you also have the 2nd highest rates of chlamydia and gonorhea in the country as well.

www.mississippifirst.org...

In 2011, the Mississippi Legislature passed a new sex education law mandating that schools adopt a sex education policy–either “abstinence-plus” or “abstinence-only”–by June 30, 2012. The new law also contains implementation requirements that all school districts must follow such as the separation of girls and boys for sex education classes and the requirement that parents “opt-in” their child for sex ed classes.

Read the new law, referred to as House Bill 999 (HB999).

articles.latimes.com...

a reply to: Char-Lee

My wife delivered twins 11 weeks premature.
Both would have suffered severe brain and physical damage had they survived.
It was the hardest choice I can imagine anyone having to make.

I don't like how she describes a fetus as a kidney bean.
It's not a damn bean, it is one of us in the very earliest stages of development.

a reply to: links234

and she is an authority...because? and because she say effing not selling baby parts,calling people idiots makes her more intelligent ...how? she needs to step back and shut her mouth.

a reply to: peter vlar

political party affiliation may play a part in results.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Char-Lee

Death is death however you slice it.
Why mince words for those who either hide from it or can't handle it?

We disagree on that, the death of some cells from my arm compared to the death of my son a soldier?
the death of a young healthy person is not equal to 100 yr old Grandfather.
Huge differences in deaths.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

How is it hypocritical to not want innocent life to die?

A calf is innocent, a chicken is innocent...yes a clump of cells is innocent.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: Char-Lee

My wife delivered twins 11 weeks premature.
Both would have suffered severe brain and physical damage had they survived.
It was the hardest choice I can imagine anyone having to make.

I don't like how she describes a fetus as a kidney bean.
It's not a damn bean, it is one of us in the very earliest stages of development.

You seem to be speaking of two different things? 11 weeks premature very sorry for your loss can't even imagine, I have two children myself.

The bean was a description of the size at a certain stage I believe? Not sure why that would bother you many medical sites I have read give such size comparisons.

a reply to: Jobeycool
abortions been around long before stem cell research and well I highly doubt that any women aborts for the purpose of increasing the stem cell bank...

a reply to: JIMC5499

30-100$ is through the nose?