ATS POLL: Who do you want as the next President of the United States

a reply to: ObjectZero

Yeah, I wish "none" or "abstain" were options. Be interesting to see how many people have had it with these fake elections and have decided enough is enough.

So sick of hearing people around me saying "I voted for so and so because they were the lesser of two evils." Pure stupidity and laziness.

If you are so concerned about who is running the country, why don't YOU run for president?

Isn't that possible?

Regardless whoever runs for president, I have only ONE single wish, they stay at home, pack up everything they have elsewhere, and take it home.

Not American, but given the massive own-goal the Republican party has given itself, with the reality that most of the US now supports LGBT equality and the Republicans passing bills have clear links to hate groups, religious preachers and some of the most dubious "Christian" organizations, I very much doubt any Republican is going to make it.

These are people who deliberately enact laws which directly damage their own populations, for nothing more than religious ideology. Wherever you stand on the whole issue about these laws, there is absolutely no denying that these laws have done massive damage. They knew they would too, they had plenty of warnings in Indiana, and they still acted in a way they knew would do massive damage to their state and their population.

They chose their personal religious ideology over the best interests of the population. No sane American wants a member of that club in power.

Such a conundrum

What to do when a political figure is a member? When is an opinion a personal attack?

My take on J. Ventura:

He is a Democrat. He just likes to call himself an Independent (it sounds better to the masses). Just as SeAL is more palatable than UDT (to the masses).

I am a combat elitist. That is a personal short coming on my part and I accept it for good or ill (mostly ill).

Mr. Ventura knows the difference between a "combat veteran" and a "wartime veteran" and depends on the typical civilian to not know the difference. He uses this lack of understanding to bully people with shouted insults of "have you ever served in war? I have", knowing that although he served in a time of war he never served in combat.

His time during the war was spent in the south Pacific with UDT and not in theater.

Why does Jesse walk so much? He doesn't have a CAR

This serves two functions and is the reason that I loathe the man to no end.

One - it allows him to ride upon the honor earned by better men. Regardless of anyone's thoughts/feelings about war, America cherishes her veterans. Jesse knows that and "alludes" to this and always hints and skirts and uses innuendo about his service (nudge nudge, wink wink) he never states "when I was in Nam" because he knows he would be caught in a lie at that point. So he walks upon the shoulders of dead men to attain the heights he could not achieve with his own fortitude.

Two - it allows him to wash his hands of crimes. He can stand back at any time things get too thick and say "I wasn't there/ I didn't do those things" because as he never served in theater he is not guilty of the heinous acts that are often attributed to soldiers in war.

He has a cowards heart and is a hypocrite of the highest order.

Perhaps I will lose my account for writing these things. Perhaps I will draw the flames of his sycophants. Regardless they need to be said. As a combat veteran I will pay for all that I have done one day (or I won't, we'll see). I can honestly say from now until then that I was there where the bullets flew, where the rubber met the road, where the action was. All Jesse can do is continue to drop his little innuendo and bully civilians with his "I served, did you?"

"I'll post my DD214 Mr. Ventura, will you?

Come on America, no more personality votes. KNOW who you are voting for this time. Not their soundbites, not their wardrobe, not their party affiliation. You have time. Research

originally posted by: 200Plus

...it allows him to ride upon the honor earned by better men. Regardless of anyone's thoughts/feelings about war, America cherishes her veterans. Jesse knows that and "alludes" to this and always hints and skirts and uses innuendo about his service (nudge nudge, wink wink) he never states "when I was in Nam" because he knows he would be caught in a lie at that point. So he walks upon the shoulders of dead men to attain the heights he could not achieve with his own fortitude.

Two - it allows him to wash his hands of crimes. He can stand back at any time things get too thick and say "I wasn't there/ I didn't do those things" because as he never served in theater he is not guilty of the heinous acts that are often attributed to soldiers in war.

He has a cowards heart and is a hypocrite of the highest order.

This is a spot-on analysis of Ventura.

I really like Catherine Austin Fitts for president. That is who I was thinking of when I chose 'any other random person'. She'd be a breath of fresh air!

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: LiberLegit

Just out of curiosity, who did you select?

Scott Walker. Either way, I don't care who gets the conservative primary. Even if it's someone as terrible as Jeb Bush i'd vote for him. I don't want a radical liberal in the white house. I know I know:

-what's the difference
-the bankers support both sides!
-way to be fooled by the illusion man...

I get it. You're all enlightened star children who "get it." All I know is that I appreciate conservative policies and there's a better chance of seeing those enacted even a little bit if a conservative is elected.

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: LiberLegit
I'm not surprised at all by any of these results. ATS is a bunch of Paultards or effacing ego-maniacs who think they know better than everyone else because they hang out on an alternative news site. They can't just put a click in for the obvious candidates which are going to run, they have to choose "other." Irritating.

So let me guess, you're going with the status quo Clinton or Bush since the so honest because their mainstream. Also, since you're so quick to label people 'who hang out on an alternative news site', what are you doing here then Jackweed?

This is the typical ATS response that I was expecting. This board has become hilariously predictable. When someone isn't on the same page as you with something, you just go the "sheeple" argument route. I get it man, you've figured it all out. Chiming in from the real world here: Bush and Clinton aren't even being supported by the MSM too much either - not like it matters anyways. I want a conservative president that will enact conservative policies, Scott Walker seems like the best candidate for that. Ted Cruz seems like more of a talking points guy, and I honestly don't trust Rand Paul at all.

Tell me, who would be your ideal candidate? I won't make assumptions like everyone else here feels the need to, I don't like to pretend i'm enlightened.

Elizabeth Warren

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Which ever candidate shows the ability to work "down the middle" taking both Democrat and Republican ideas, to craft budgets and legislation which will work for the betterment of the American people. Tired of right and left wing extremists and their vocal minority of followers. Catering to the few at the expense of the majority is getting old.

Wow, I'd take 5 Hillarys over 1 Elizabeth Warren. UGH.

But as it stands, I voted Rand Paul. He seems to be the only one concerned with Individual Freedom for EVERYONE.

Everyone else is only looking out for their own.

originally posted by: bullcat
If you are so concerned about who is running the country, why don't YOU run for president?

Isn't that possible?

Regardless whoever runs for president, I have only ONE single wish, they stay at home, pack up everything they have elsewhere, and take it home.

Possible to run and possible to have a shot at winning are very different things. You might be able to get on the ballot in a state or two, but if you can't get on in all 50 it doesn't really matter. Even if you do get on the ballot you don't get to participate in the debates and get free air time unless you were the chosen R or D.

I nominate myself. As far as I'm concerned im the only sane person on this planet.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

None of the above. No one will ever be good enough.

a reply to: LiberLegit

Oh, I get it, you're one of these "lesser of two evils" voters.


Blech!

a reply to: LiberLegit

My ideal candidate doesn't exist and can't exist in today's world.

Arnold or Sylvester. That would sum up America perfectly.

originally posted by: Famouszor
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

None of the above. No one will ever be good enough.

Ahem....

See above post. Rosinitiate for president! I would have Alex Jones as Public Relations because of his mild manners. Hilary Clinton for VP because she'll recognize all the filth who approach me, and Sarah Palin as Secretary of Defence....she can see Russia from her house. safety first!

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

It's never too early to start the informal straw poll, Skep!
Thanks for the opportunity: bumped.

Although not by any means eligible due to our requirements,
I'd like to give an honorable mention to a foreigner.

Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir.

She was the PM while the crooked bankers were
kicked out of Iceland. It's all the resume I needed to
see, but conversely I've got a pretty small brain pan.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I don't know who I want. I'll answer when I do.

It looks like ATS has a tie going for RAND Paul and RANDom Person... lol!

It is a nice map of the political influences on the site, which goes to show there are a lot more far-right folk than far-left folk, methinks. This simply matches my experience on the boards.

Cheers, ATS. It's going to be a looonnnggg race to 2016.


- AB