ATS POLL: Who do you want as the next President of the United States

Holy crap, Rand Paul got 26% of the vote? Now, if it was his father, I can understand. (And I'd vote Ron Paul!) But he is not his father. I don't trust him!

originally posted by: texasgirl
Holy crap, Rand Paul got 26% of the vote? Now, if it was his father, I can understand. (And I'd vote Ron Paul!) But he is not his father. I don't trust him!

You know who knows Rand Paul better than anyone? His father Ron Paul... you know who Ron Paul supports? His son Rand Paul.. So why if you like Ron Paul so much would you not like the person he supports?

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
How did Joe Biden get a vote?

I don't think people are taking this seriously

Well people seem to be voting for Jeb Bush and Hilliary Clinton

Fair point, nevermind...

oh woah to us

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor

originally posted by: texasgirl

Holy crap, Rand Paul got 26% of the vote? Now, if it was his father, I can understand. (And I'd vote Ron Paul!) But he is not his father. I don't trust him!

You know who knows Rand Paul better than anyone? His father Ron Paul... you know who Ron Paul supports? His son Rand Paul.. So why if you like Ron Paul so much would you not like the person he supports?

His son did not support his father during the 2012 elections. He went with Mitt Romney.

Joe Biden all the way!

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: UnBreakable

IMO that whole Jesse and Chris Kyle lawsuit thing was my last straw with Jesse.

In one hand he was blaming the gov't for shutting down his conspiracy theory show and the reason for its failure, then used that scenario to gain attention for his new endeavour to demonstrate he is the real deal.

Then he switches his tone that Chris Kyle was the reason why his show failed and sued him for money.

Between that and some of the stunts he has done in the past , I guess I have gone a bit sour on Jesse.

True. He did waffle on that issue. But is that any worse than what the listed candidates have lied/waffled on? Christie and Bridgegate?, Hillary and Benghazi/emails? , etc. Point being any and all candidates have some sort of baggage coming in, there is no 'clean' candidate. That comes with the territory in running for POTUS.

Point being any and all candidates have some sort of baggage coming in, there is no 'clean' candidate. That comes with the territory in running for POTUS.

That's because people have accepted that as OK. It's is what keeps politics in a mess. A person who displays corruption at these levels need not be elected. But then people really just don't care.

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor

originally posted by: texasgirl

Holy crap, Rand Paul got 26% of the vote? Now, if it was his father, I can understand. (And I'd vote Ron Paul!) But he is not his father. I don't trust him!

You know who knows Rand Paul better than anyone? His father Ron Paul... you know who Ron Paul supports? His son Rand Paul.. So why if you like Ron Paul so much would you not like the person he supports?

His son did not support his father during the 2012 elections. He went with Mitt Romney.

That's not entirely accurate, Heres what he said, “You know, my first choice had always been my father. I campaigned for him when I was 11 years old. He's still my first pick. But you know, now that the nominating process is over, I'm happy to announce that I'm going to be supporting Governor Romney.”

He only endorsed him after it was all pretty much said and done Linky

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Because they are not the same people and I've heard things come out of Rand's mouth that Ron Paul wold not have said.

originally posted by: roadgravel

Point being any and all candidates have some sort of baggage coming in, there is no 'clean' candidate. That comes with the territory in running for POTUS.

That's because people have accepted that as OK. It's is what keeps politics in a mess. A person who displays corruption at these levels need not be elected. But then people really just don't care.

I care, as with most people I know. But given our choices, unfortunately it does come down to choosing the lesser of two evils. All my life every person that's held the office of POTUS has had issues, whether known at the time or not. From JFK and his extra-marital dalliances to our current POTUS and his previous relationships with known shady people like Rev. Wright and radical Bill Ayres.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Lewis Black sums up my views here:

I'm not surprised at all by any of these results. ATS is a bunch of Paultards or effacing ego-maniacs who think they know better than everyone else because they hang out on an alternative news site. They can't just put a click in for the obvious candidates which are going to run, they have to choose "other." Irritating.

a reply to: LiberLegit

Just out of curiosity, who did you select?

originally posted by: LiberLegit
I'm not surprised at all by any of these results. ATS is a bunch of Paultards or effacing ego-maniacs who think they know better than everyone else because they hang out on an alternative news site. They can't just put a click in for the obvious candidates which are going to run, they have to choose "other." Irritating.

And why would anyone want to vote for the obvious Republican/Democrat dross?

Bush III or Clinton II yeah.......USA would so benefit....

originally posted by: LiberLegit
I'm not surprised at all by any of these results. ATS is a bunch of Paultards or effacing ego-maniacs who think they know better than everyone else because they hang out on an alternative news site. They can't just put a click in for the obvious candidates which are going to run, they have to choose "other." Irritating.

So let me guess, you're going with the status quo Clinton or Bush since the so honest because their mainstream. Also, since you're so quick to label people 'who hang out on an alternative news site', what are you doing here then Jackweed?

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor

originally posted by: texasgirl



Holy crap, Rand Paul got 26% of the vote? Now, if it was his father, I can understand. (And I'd vote Ron Paul!) But he is not his father. I don't trust him!

You know who knows Rand Paul better than anyone? His father Ron Paul... you know who Ron Paul supports? His son Rand Paul.. So why if you like Ron Paul so much would you not like the person he supports?

Okay, I grant you that. But his father wasn't completely out of the race yet. And the fact Ron Paul won the delegate votes in 6 states (including Romney's Massachusettes) but were invalidated by the GOP and given to Romney, it almost makes it worse that Rand would line up behind Mitt.

He may be running on some of his dad's policies but I don't trust him. It seems he would do what he needed to win and not stand by his principles.





His son did not support his father during the 2012 elections. He went with Mitt Romney.

That's not entirely accurate, Heres what he said, “You know, my first choice had always been my father. I campaigned for him when I was 11 years old. He's still my first pick. But you know, now that the nominating process is over, I'm happy to announce that I'm going to be supporting Governor Romney.”



He only endorsed him after it was all pretty much said and done Linky

Okay, I grant you that, but his dad wasn't completely out of the race yet. And the fact that Ron Paul won the delegate votes in 6 states (including Romney's) but were invalidated by the GOP and given to Romney, it almost makes it worse that Rand Paul would line up behind Mitt.

He may be running on some of his dad's policies but I don't trust him. It seems he would do anything to get a vote instead of run on his principles.

That's just my opinion.

a reply to: xuenchen

That's to make the experience more life like in keeping with the Etcha Sketch eletronic voting machines.

I prefer the founding principles philosophy of the Pauls, but in the end if you are going to change anything you need a person with a set that is not afraid to go head to head with the establishment, violently if need be. I see Jesse Ventura as that guy. I imagine Jesse as a guy that would make sure the President himself can carry a firearm at all times so he can shoot back when Bankster hired goons try and assassinate him for not playing ball with the establishment.

Surprised that Gary Johnson (who I voted for last presidential election, and who I voted for in this poll) does not have more votes. Looks like 'ole Rand Paul is winning at the moment.

I guess he's OK. He's no Ron, but close enough... maybe. Sort of.

No, now that I think about it. Not really.

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor

originally posted by: texasgirl
Holy crap, Rand Paul got 26% of the vote? Now, if it was his father, I can understand. (And I'd vote Ron Paul!) But he is not his father. I don't trust him!

You know who knows Rand Paul better than anyone? His father Ron Paul... you know who Ron Paul supports? His son Rand Paul.. So why if you like Ron Paul so much would you not like the person he supports?

Ron Paul supporters bolt Rand Paul camp 3.26.15 on politico
Many are disillusioned by Rand Paul’s concessions to mainstream politics.

As he pulls together his expected presidential campaign in Iowa and New Hampshire, Sen. Rand Paul is confronted by defections from an unexpected quarter: the die-hard idealists whose energy powered his father’s campaigns.

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One of the most prominent defectors is Drew Ivers, chairman of Ron Paul’s 2012 Iowa campaign, who says he will not endorse Rand Paul for president. On Tuesday, three members of Iowa’s Ron Paul-aligned Liberty movement — state Sen. Jason Shultz and former Iowa Republican Party central committee members Chad Steenhoek and Joel Kurtinitis — announced the same

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Ivers, who had dinner with Rand Paul in August, said the Kentucky senator has abandoned many of the stances that made Ivers loyal to his father.

www.politico.com...