5.3 million year old vehicle tracks found in Turkey

The concept of the wheel seems so simple, as there could be earlier instances of it's invention than we know of.
After some earth disasters and drastic changes in population, the concept could be lost only to be resurrected again.

Additionally, we know that our early ancestors did great works of stone, which they had to haul from some distant locations. Perhaps these are the tracks of what ever they used to get those stones from quarry to site. They certainly did not carry them.

originally posted by: charlyv
The concept of the wheel seems so simple, as there could be earlier instances of it's invention than we know of.
After some earth disasters and drastic changes in population, the concept could be lost only to be resurrected again.

Additionally, we know that our early ancestors did great works of stone, which they had to haul from some distant locations. Perhaps these are the tracks of what ever they used to get those stones from quarry to site. They certainly did not carry them.

I've often wondered about other Stone Age cultures lost to history. There's no telling if you had reptilian cave men wiped out before ever getting past stone tools.

Some kinda weird water run off like the mars tunnel??
in any case it's as weird as the moving rocks in one of those desert states.

It's absolutely fascinating, how, in over 5 million years, no windblown soil has been collected and all we have growing in these "tracks" is a little tuft of grass.

Yunno?

a reply to: Entreri06

I imagine that a burial of a lizard skeleton with opposable thumbs, associated with flint scatters, hammerstones showing typical wear patterns, and grave goods would do that.

I don't know of any of those though. And yet we have a great many caves that show hundreds of thousands of years of human activity along with such tell tale signs.

originally posted by: Q
Please good people, do not bicker.

These tracks are obviously from a Pirelli LT265/70R17 121S.

Your suspect is a 2013 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab...SLT, I think, judging from the slight toe-in wear seen in this rock formation.

Find that truck, and you'll have your answers.

Driven by a 5 ft 9 in black haired man with a limp.

(Oh he may or may not have had a dog in the bacK)

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: Entreri06

I imagine that a burial of a lizard skeleton with opposable thumbs, associated with flint scatters, hammerstones showing typical wear patterns, and grave goods would do that.

I don't know of any of those though. And yet we have a great many caves that show hundreds of thousands of years of human activity along with such tell tale signs.

Yea but homo Sapians are only a couple hundred thousand years old. Reptile cavemen would be 65 millian years old. Plus it wouldn't have to be a global secret. They might have only evolved in modern day kansas, and a meteor hit there and erased all evidence.

originally posted by: Anyafaj
Is it the Alien version of the Mars Rover?

Maybe there's some civilization on another planet looking at similar things in their rock, saying, "Is it the Alien version of the Earth Rover?"

a reply to: Entreri06

I know you are just shooting the breeze etc, but rationally that's just so unlikely as to be discounted until we have some evidence.

And of course, we have found bones that old already.... and none were associated with stone tool production

There is no doubt they are vehicle tracks, but I doubt that the vehicle is 5 million years old.

I've seen the same thing before, when heavy rains hit a dirt road those who follow the lead car will drive in it's tire tracks, the weight compresses the mud and makes it easier to navigate and lessens the risk of getting stuck.

The photos would suggest the ruts perfectly parallel to each other. It was mentioned that the tracks opposite each other were of different depths.
This in itself is curious as another commenter pointed out.

I think we can see the simple geometry that these tracks are at odds with. As one side of a fixed axle/wheels rises or descends in elevation...... the sides of the rut/camber would change, appearing to go left or right at the top or bottom as the Wheel centerline changes.

As independently suspended wheels... Well you see the complexity for making a case for common carts. Common carts would leave a sloppy trail track, with a propensity to being serpentine if viewed from ground level outward.

Independently suspended wheels would maintain a straight track, as a single wheel could be maintained in a vertical position through its travel. Thus the tracks left would appear always horizontal or vertical with no varying camber change.

It would be easier to question the mud/rock equation I think. And I believe it's fairly certain that they are not irrigation ditches.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Just wanted to thank you for posting this... it's totally new to me and I'm fairly well versed on anomalies.

Interesting presentation on the video, too... I'm stumped.

There are also some really interesting features coming to light via satellite imagery (like the lights covering the Western half of Australia one night in 2012, the possible unknown pyramids in Egypt, the 'stone age' metropolis in Guyana, the trench in Northern Iraq they think might've been the irrigation ditch for the Hanging Gardens... off the top of my head)... but this is pretty easy to see at ground level.

I wonder how many more things like this exist that folks haven't bothered telling anyone about? Wish I had the funds to distribute smart phones to the world's indigenous folks with a mandate to find interesting stuff on the ground... then again, that might need editing...

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Why are these not irrigation canals? Designed to move water between crops etc. Or rice paddy trenches?

a reply to: Indigo5

Double irrigation ditches seem unnecessarily redundant... ever dig a ditch? One is usually enough...

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Indigo5

Double irrigation ditches seem unnecessarily redundant... ever dig a ditch? One is usually enough...

One of the images shows neatly formed, dozens or tracks parallel to one another similar to rice irrigation fields.

And on the spectrum of possibilities, uniform irrigation canals perhaps diverting to different owned crops seems a world more probably than ancient tire tracks.

When I see "tracks" like these, whether they're on Earth or Mars, or anywhere, I always wonder where they're going. Is there the ruins of a city nearby where they could be headed? Since there seems to be more than one vehicle involved, I sort of assume that there has to be some nearby place where they were going to attack, or sell their beans, or whatever.

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: Entreri06

I know you are just shooting the breeze etc, but rationally that's just so unlikely as to be discounted until we have some evidence.

And of course, we have found bones that old already.... and none were associated with stone tool production

Only a fraction of a percent of species even leave fossils. I'm not talking about Atlantis style advanced civilizations. I'm talking about ones who never made it past (or maybe to) the spear. I'm also not talking about the hollow earth reptilian a who secretly rule the world Rofl. Nor an I specifically talking about reptilians. Hell there have been dozens of tool wielding primates, but we only know about a handful.



There is just so much time there and we have so little of the evolutionary record.

It can happen a lot, humans will often leve tracks or stuff where it was supossed to be millions of years ago. Like that nail the soviet union forgot to take away from an escavation.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

These kind of wagon tracks are very common. In fact the tracks and a wagon invention are the reason why we drive on the other side of the road in America.

First I thought it was this car..



but if it were you would have footprints in between the tracks also.