Rumor: Putin Has Been Neutralized by a "Stealthy Coup" - Opening Post Updated 9x - Putin Found

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Stratfor has an analysis on Putin's absence. From their Twitter account…


The report is available here, you just need to provide an email address. Since the terms of use do not allow me to paste the full report, here are three relevant paragraphs.

Russia is facing multiple crises. They are likely manageable, but at the core is the assumption of prudent and consistent management. This is needed both to make certain the crises do not become unmanageable and to reassure the Russian public that the leadership is united and in control. The last 10 days did the opposite. They made it appear that either the leadership was caught in a power struggle or that Putin — if he was merely busy, as Peskov said — was irresponsible.

It is certainly true that a leader can take a vacation, but this one was so sudden that it involved canceling meetings and treaty signings. It is also true that leaders can work out of the public's eye. So if Peskov's description was correct, Peskov and Putin had to be aware of the concerns arising and that not allaying those concerns for 10 days tended to undermine confidence in Putin's judgment or cause unease about his authority. The idea that the concerns had no foundations was possibly true. But the concerns were not unreasonable, and Putin acted as if he were indifferent to them. Peskov's contemptuous dismissal of any apprehension was hardly calming.

But the point stands. At any time, and certainly at a time of international and domestic crisis, a responsible leader does not compound problems by seeming to be another source of instability. Putin has not run Russia for some 15 years because he is irresponsible. There is no apparent reason for his disappearance, yet he disappeared. We do not know the real reason, but the one provided is hard to swallow. What the reason was, and whether his reappearance is the end of this behavior, remains to be seen.

They speculated on a few actual reasons for Putin's disappearance, in order of increasing "dubiousness" as they put it.

1) Putin was genuinely unaware of the turmoil his sudden absence from the world stage would cause.

2) He was ill, and his aids didn't want to announce it.

3) There was an attempted coup, and he was victorious.

4) There was a successful coup, and he's being forced to cooperate to maintain stability.

5) He was in hiding from assassination rumors.

6) He expects to be intermittently inaccessible in the future, and was establishing a pattern

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Do you think there's any link with Putin's disappearance and Iran's nuclear negotiations with the UN/USA?

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

The special operations helicopters buzzing around the Kremlin provided a massive clue that his absence was security related..

So.. number:

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4).
5).

a reply to: Chadwickus

No. I tend to think there was a behind the scenes power struggle. There's been a slew of analysis and reports over the past 10-12 weeks of various factions of FSB and oligarchs expressing increasing irritation with Putin.

With Putin's vast wealth, loosing a power struggle is very unlikely.

So is there any way to determine if the video they showed yesterday was in fact new? It seems like he always wears the same suit for these things?

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

But that means he still has supporters, because his money is all divided and "invested" amongst comrades. Will be interesting if he dares to enter Moscow tomorrow, or not.
But I guess being president and mafia-boss at the same time has to become exhausting at some point... A curse and a blessing.

Jesus, 83 pages? People are still coming here and nothing is known? I'll be back in a few days to see what happens, right after I've tended to more important things like cleaning dog crap out of my drive way and leveling my huntard.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Only in western media.
Its not wealth... Russians actually love him. Hes doing good job for their country. And in other Slavic countries peoples are looking with envy and think "why we dont have such leader?". Putin did something impossible. Russia is power again... He literally rebuilded that country. 15 years ago Russia was nothing... Look at them now.

But indeed, something happened. What? If we dont know now, we will never know... But there were rumors that Angela Merkel disappeard too, for few days. Do you know what Obama was doing in that time?
Secret talks maybe? Talks so hard that at some point Northern Fleet was one of the arguments... Before Putins dissaperance there was info that American troops are going to Ukraine. Now they are not going there... Only that silly convoy is moving thru various european countries... I think that during last few days, we were closer to WWIII than ever.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

or maybe a ploy to get internal and or external enemies to show their hands - 'intelligence 101'

a reply to: voiceofthecielago

It is reported that on March the 9th early in the morning, Alexie Venenikotov, one of the most respected journalists in Moscow, gathered up his son and headed for the Airport where he got on a plane for Israel fearing for his life. Something has been happening inside the Kremlin. If a Putin is alive, then what about Zolotov? Putin's hit man . If anything has been happening to interfere with the big mans power base,they would have to get him first, then if he's dead theirs been a silent coup , if he's alive its time to be worried.

a reply to: voiceofthecielago
Sure, sure, everybody loves him.

Putin’s reappearance comes as Russia marks the one-year anniversary of a referendum in Crimea that led to Russia annexing the Black Sea peninsula from Ukraine and froze Moscow’s ties with the West. His disappearing act also came amid a febrile political atmosphere in Moscow after the murder of opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, the most shocking assassination of Putin’s 15 years in power.
Some observers suggested that Putin took the time out to deal with increased infighting among political and business elites over Russia’s confrontation with the West and the economic crisis sparked by sanctions and falling oil prices. One of Russia’s best-loved authors, Boris Akunin, said he was no fan of Putin’s but that he was disgusted to see some people anxiously waiting for a “front-page obituary.” “I absolutely don’t want the authoritarian regime in Russia to collapse just because Putin disappears of his own accord [or as a result of a palace coup],” he wrote in his blog. “I want the authoritarian regime to be replaced as a result of people’s conscious choice, their collective actions.”

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a reply to: Peeple

Don't they call it Stockholm syndrome. If people disappear when they oppose him, your main aim would be not to disappear, and say,do, and even think, everything the dear leader would like . We saw it in Germany during the Second World war. To get rid of it can cost a lot of lives.

a reply to: Peeple

You still belive that it was Putin who murdered Nemtsov? Belive me, hes not retarded...
Do you know who Nemtsov really was? That he was making financial piramids and other frauds? "Opposition leader"? Dont be silly... Nobody in Russia was taking this guy seriously. Belive me. I know what You will write now, that im Russian troll... But no. Im just telling you things that i see in that part of the world. Sorry that they are different than things that your media show... In fact, just like majority of peoples on the globe, i think that its your country that is danger to peace and humanity not Putins Russia. Yes, they were evil empire. Yes, they occupied my country for many years. But things changed. Your country took that role. And thats sad... Because almost all my life i was pro-American. I even supported invasion on Iraq... :/

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: voiceofthecielago

got on a plane for Israel

Israel... All roads lead to Israel nowadays...