Sydney cafe being held up now isis flag in window

It's been posted already but here's another link.

Live Stream Sydney

Sorry if you think I've avoided your question ... No nothing makes it right . Absolutely nothing
There happy
Terrorists lack drones and smart bombs to do it though
And secondly just to make one thing clear regarding ISIS
It's a bloody western set up trained supplied and influenced
I recognise the finger print I've been involved in similar training and mentoring ops in the past operating from Jordan as it so happens reply to: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Domo1
Anyone confirm reports someone walked into a hospital and dropped off a suspicious package?

So what do we know?

2 hostage takers confirmed by people that escaped Cafe

Incorrect. Nothing confirmed apart from 1 gunman.

13 hostages or more

Correct.

Reports that one of the men may be wearing a backpack and suicide vest

Incorrect.

Hostages being held in 2 different groups

Incorrect.

Only military and police vehicles allowed in airspace

Incorrect. Aviation hasnt closed any airspace, however domestic airlines are changing flight paths to suit.

Threats of other targets in Sydney

Incorrect.

They've made demands on the radio to speak with PM

Rumoured.

CEO of Lindt has apparently said between 40 and 50 hostages

Correct.

That all seem right so far? I just found out about this and want to make sure I'm up to date.

a reply to: Collateral

Not 100% sure about that. I've been trying to get a hold of my brother and sister in law and can't get through to either of them.

I'm sure they'll be fine, but would be nice to know that they aren't anywhere near there right now.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Andrew White has a few of these stories doesn't he.


Makes me wonder how he survived.
& if he is just relaying what he's heard, it makes me wonder how the ones who informed him survived.

Also makes me wonder how IS are still battling to get close to Baghdad yet they've apparently slaughtered so many there.



Something doesn't add up.

a reply to: MrLimpet

Yeah! I was expecting him to address the claims that they want to speak with him atleast! Considering that is one of their demands why isn't he telling us what action he is going to take with that? not to mention the fact they allegedly want it on live radio.

a reply to: Collateral

Reports that one of the men may be wearing a backpack and suicide vest Incorrect.

i disagree,, because they called in the dogs.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

What children & babies have been decapitated?



Source please!

I just sourced them being killed. Does it matter if they are cut in half or shot in the head? Dead is dead.

a reply to: Cruff

All the video footage from the area is showing plenty of people on phones. Perhaps they are already speaking to someone else?

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

What children & babies have been decapitated?



Source please!

You cant be serious? Isis , ISIL or whatever they call themselves and their cohorts have been killing women, children , and babies whole sale..........

Are you NOT keeping up with things, hell they even put vidoes up.......

These are the same kind of people pulling the crap thats going on in the OP

My whole premise is this guy sits here talking about how he "kinda" sympathizes with them, and then goes on to blame the US etc etc etc......

The news flash is, it has nothing to do with the US, thats a patsy, an excuse........

These groups have been doing it to their own people and anyone else who isnt as extreme as they are.........

you can blame the us dropping bombs, etc, but the reality of it is .......

The people in this shop in Australia, didnt drop a bomb.......

The children in the middle east who were beheaded, didnt bomb anyone......

infants ripped from their mothers arms, before they were old enough to speak and killed......werent even old enough to have a sense of identity much less transgressions against these monsters.......

Just stop with the excuses and call it what it is........

Stop placating and pandering to the politically correct bull crap.........

a reply to: BobAthome

So can you confirm it?

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

You said there are no sources except the Christian Post. I give you 2 more sources, and you still just say it's BS. Apparently you do not want sources. Apparently you do not care if it's true.

a reply to: Collateral

Hmm, maybe the network is just clogged. Will keep trying!

a reply to: Collateral

I hope they have blocked mobiles because in Mumbai the attackers were getting orders via phone from guys in Pakistan watching it unfold on TV and social media. These walls have ears!

originally posted by: lavenlaar
News just in that suspicious package found at Opera House and being evacuated and all air traffic has been shut down

Time for the Macho Aussie PM to "shirt front" the ISIS.

Idiots like him waste their energies in the wrong areas of geo-politics and end up looking like a fool.

Remember George Bush and Iraq 2003.......;-)

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Neocrusader
I'm at least trying
Perhaps if you'd care to read my introduction you may have an idea of where I come from

In a nut shell I joined up pre 9/11
Then found myself spending 60% of my time on operations in the ME and elsewhere and have something of a different perspective due to my experiences and operations
My apologies if I've offended but sometimes the truth hurts a reply to: TechniXcality

Terrific. I was in before 9/11 too. Spent a while in. I guarantee you did not see anything more or worse than I did. And guess what dude? I think cutting 3 year olds in half is wrong no matter who does it, and I don't defend anybody for doing it, regardless of who they are or what flag they fly.

How's that for perspective?

Well we'll simply have to disagree regarding our operational experiences and as I think you'll findbive answered no cutting babies up is never right
But Aussie SAS have trained and fed Intel to groups that do

I'm gonna leave it here as I can see this has many riled up EDIT should anybody want to discuss such topics feel free to start one and I'll pop along
(I wouldn't know where to start lol oh so many I've irritated)
Hugs and kisses

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If they're making an emotional plea in hope a knee jerk reaction chopping children in half will work much more than a bullet.


Thanks for your sources though, even if I don't believe them I appreciate you going out of your way.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If they're making an emotional plea in hope a knee jerk reaction chopping children in half will work much more than a bullet.


Thanks for your sources though, even if I don't believe them I appreciate you going out of your way.

It's not even debatable ISIS is killing women and babies, the method might be, but in the end dead is dead. If you do not convert you will die. IF you convert you might still die.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If they're making an emotional plea in hope a knee jerk reaction chopping children in half will work much more than a bullet.


Thanks for your sources though, even if I don't believe them I appreciate you going out of your way.

you cant be serious ...........

Honestly at a loss for words here.........I really cant even fathom how your mind operates to do these mental gymnastics to explain off the reality of what this is

yes...mobiles are being blocked. I was mid conversation and got cut off. cant get in touch now just goes straight to message bank.