Area 51 Scientist's Deathbed Show & Tell!

I'm always astounded (when I actually have the inclination to endure this site) to see people hanging out in the Alien/UFO forum of a site called 'AboveTopSecret.com', and immediately, almost knee jerkingly, telling the folks to 'move along, nothing to see here'. I mean this interview is of a man who did top secret research for DECADES, for top defense military contractors, and he's showing pictures of UFO's and Aliens!?! Yeah, we get posters who's vocabulary entirely entails LOLZ!! Dat s%^& it fake yo! That's the jist of it. I'm just curious to why they even bother? Even if Bushman is yanking some chain, there's no indication he's being disingenuous. It's more fun to discuss the possibilities of his message; cheap energy, propulsion systems, clandestine aircrafts, and yes...aliens. Why all the buzzkill? Why do these people even bother to hang out here???

The ramifications of anti-gravity research has the opportunity to benefit mankind. Take the aliens out of the equation and there is still the bleak realization that companies like LM are suppressing technology for the betterment of mankind. Or maybe you like that your 2014 V6 F-150 still gets the same gas mileage as the 1914 V6 Model T?

originally posted by: okamitengu

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: Grimpachi

I will never tell....its top secret. I could tell you but then id have to...well you know..

OG

"my milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard... I could teach you, but i'd have to charge!"

Hey you simmer down now Jai!!

OG

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: Grimpachi

I will never tell....its top secret. I could tell you but then id have to...well you know..

OG

I see...It would have to be burrito day.

originally posted by: Goldcurrent
I'm always astounded (when I actually have the inclination to endure this site) to see people hanging out in the Alien/UFO forum of a site called 'AboveTopSecret.com', and immediately, almost knee jerkingly, telling the folks to 'move along, nothing to see here'. I mean this interview is of a man who did top secret research for DECADES, for top defense military contractors, and he's showing pictures of UFO's and Aliens!?! Yeah, we get posters who's vocabulary entirely entails LOLZ!! Dat s%^& it fake yo! That's the jist of it. I'm just curious to why they even bother? Even if Bushman is yanking some chain, there's no indication he's being disingenuous. It's more fun to discuss the possibilities of his message; cheap energy, propulsion systems, clandestine aircrafts, and yes...aliens. Why all the buzzkill? Why do these people even bother to hang out here???

Only 2 explanations. They are either suffering from some kind of fervent debunker mental disease...or they are paid to post such hogwash..

Either way they stick out like a green hat with an orange bill...

OG

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: Grimpachi

I will never tell....its top secret. I could tell you but then id have to...well you know..

OG

I see...It would have to be burrito day.

Nope it would have to be happy hour.

OG

a reply to: Goldcurrent

Even if Bushman is yanking some chain

because I would like to know how much is chain yanking and how much is on the level.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Goldcurrent

Even if Bushman is yanking some chain

because I would like to know how much is chain yanking and how much is on the level.

What would you like to do? What effort are you willing to put in to find out the truth for yourself and enlighten the rest of us in the process?

Stop whining and go do some digging!

OG

originally posted by: AllIsOne
a reply to: OrionsGem

I so wished this was credible, but no scientist would use his vocabulary. It didn't pass my smell test :-(

How can you insinuate he's not a scientist when indeed his obit and other information prove otherwise? Silly post you made here.

a reply to: Grimpachi
Regardless, the man has patents for technology that we may not see for 30 years because L-M may or may not also have it's hands in oil, the middle east, and juicy contracts for such skirmishes in such regions....

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: AllIsOne
a reply to: OrionsGem

I so wished this was credible, but no scientist would use his vocabulary. It didn't pass my smell test :-(

How can you insinuate he's not a scientist when indeed his obit and other information prove otherwise? Silly post you made here.

Not silly. Everyone knows that bushmans real career was working as a cotton candy maker at the local county fair, he just pretended to be a scientist for all those years. (not)

OG

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: AllIsOne
a reply to: OrionsGem

I so wished this was credible, but no scientist would use his vocabulary. It didn't pass my smell test :-(

How can you insinuate he's not a scientist when indeed his obit and other information prove otherwise? Silly post you made here.

Because, like many posters here, he was more interested in hitting reply and adding his worthless opinion than in reading the thread.

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: AllIsOne
a reply to: OrionsGem

I so wished this was credible, but no scientist would use his vocabulary. It didn't pass my smell test :-(

How can you insinuate he's not a scientist when indeed his obit and other information prove otherwise? Silly post you made here.

Because, like many posters here, he was more interested in hitting reply and adding his worthless opinion than in reading the thread.

And a star for your concise observation sir!

OG

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: lovebeck

I am not questioning how the photos were took or the process.

What I am questioning is how he came to posses them. Where those photos would have been developed and how if they have any type of official markings.

They do look old which means they weren't just done off a printer which means they had to be developed. What are the chances his scientist friends developed their own photos on uncle Sams dime? If they were developed in a high security area they would have been done with strict controls.


If anybody zooms in on his photos and find some kind of nomenclature on the front or back then it would add to the credibility of them.

I once watched a show on area 51 the security was insane. They flew in everyone so the likelihood of someone walking of post or flying off post with photos would be near zero. I worked at some ASPs where photos were a big no. Everything was searched leaving the area cameras were not allowed. It was low security the MI battalion I was at had what was medium security. Almost no chance of photos leaving that area. What would high or Area 51 type security?

It's my bet and I think the video proves it,the photos were developed at a drop off photo location. Many of them were in the envelopes that photos from such places are returned in. I'd also bet this old dude walked down to the photo place and just dropped them off like they were pics of his grandson's birthday party.

a reply to: Bilk22

That is very likely..he does seem like an old fashioned type of guy...

OG

a reply to: Goldcurrent

Regardless if he is on the level????


So just believe is the motto?


It has been shown that anyone can have a patent. I am unaware if any of his patents have been shown to work or if they are even useful to us on any level. I don't care about what his patents are what I would like to know is if he is on the level or spinning tall tales out of boredom.


The title of the thread is "Area 51 Scientist's Deathbed Show & Tell!" and I realize the OP didn't come up with the title but even it is in question.

No where in the video or on the youtube channel does it show that Boyd knew he was on his deathbed and decided to fess up. It looks to me like another video he was happy to do which is fine but some people here have put emphasis on this saying it was a deathbed confession which to me looks like a false conclusion.

IMO the only thing that matters here is if he is telling the truth, partial truth, or where it may lay in between. We do not have a lot to go on other than the video so questioning the validity of the subject matter within it is one of the things I like about ATS. The moment the motto here changes to "just believe" I will close my account and you guys can have at it.

a reply to: Bilk22

HAHA that would be a kicker but I kind of doubt it.

I can't make out what the photo envelopes say but they have something on them. If those envelopes do say quickie shop I am done here.


He said in the video he gave them his camera and they snapped some shots for him in flight of their home world???


I would think an advanced alien race could do much better than just taking photos for him but hey that is just me. Some things just don't add up for me. Thats why figuring out if the photos have any markings makes a difference to me.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Bilk22

HAHA that would be a kicker but I kind of doubt it.

I can't make out what the photo envelopes say but they have something on them. If those envelopes do say quickie shop I am done here.


He said in the video he gave them his camera and they snapped some shots for him in flight of their home world???


I would think an advanced alien race could do much better than just taking photos for him but hey that is just me. Some things just don't add up for me. Thats why figuring out if the photos have any markings makes a difference to me.

If i could prove the envelopes say quickie shop, would you close up said shop, and leave ats forever?

Dont threaten me with a good time!

OG

originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Goldcurrent

OK yeah I misheard him on that.


I asked this before in the thread with no reply.

Can anyone zoom in on the picture folders to see what they say? Any type of govt nomenclature? I didn't notice any on the back of the photos which makes me wonder.

I have worked within the government before and they are pretty particular about cataloging and controlling such things as photos so if nomenclature can be seen then it would add to his stories veracity.

You would not see any govt markings if this was from his own personal stash. Could be a non descript manilla folder. Who knows how many folders those photos have lived in before finding a home in the current one?

OG

That explanation doesn't add up in the slightest. Area 51 type of installation and scientists just walking out with a personal stash of photos. Nope that is a crazy thought.

I have worked with mild security and that wouldn't fly.

Second the photos would need to be developed and that would happen in house where they catalog them. Unless you are suggesting they were dropped of at the local 24hr developer which is even crazier.

As I said a govt nomenclature on them would add credibility the lack of nomenclature detracts.

Sure it adds up just fine in a controlled disclosure, or controlled leak scenario. It is my feeling that he was allowed to go public with this information.

But please, since you know so much about how area 51 operates, I will gladly send you a go pro to strap on the next time you hop on that red stripe 737 out of las vegas. Awaiting awesome footage your awesomeness.

OG

Or perhaps this could be a controlled disinformation campaign like the systematic propagation of myths by one Richard Doty in the past. His credits include one TV show which was supposed to be some sort of disclosure (strawberry icecream eating EBEs), the mental destruction of Paul Bennewitz, and of course Serpo, which this tale has some similarities with.

For every call that this could be a controlled disclosure, isn't it just as likely (if not more so) that this could be disinformation to throw people off the scent of top secret military technology?

Hmmm...OK, I believe him. Just my gut reaction, As for him being allowed to now spill the beans, makes sense to me. A massive media campaign would be disastrous and cause chaos and panic -- it has to be done slowly and carefully.

a reply to: OrionsGem

I would be done with your thread. That should be motivation enough.

Unless ATS decides to embrace ignorance instead of questioning these claims to deny ignorance I will be here much longer than you.