Do you love God, or do you love Satan?

originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: thesmokingman
I agree.

Bob Dylan is an enigma to me. The worst singer that I've ever heard, yet, he gets praise. Sort of like Clapton gets called "god", yet, he is, at best, an average blues player. But Bob Dylan......he can serve whomever he wants to, just leave me out of it. Didn't that nut Dylan admit that he sold his soul to the devil on video? I guess we know who he serves. Maybe I'll serve Mickey Mouse? Or Donald Duck? yeah

i would rather serve someone who has lots of resources. that way wherever i end up i dont have to worry about lack of free will because i already did everything i wanted to do with it. thats why i have this notion that for every person condemned to hell, god loses a point. because thats one more toy he burned instead of fixing. like ragequitting. that doesnt prove you are better or stronger or smarter or more worthwhile. that just proves you cant handle it when things dont go your way. that is more a reflection of your character than any of the people you threw into the lake of fire.

so if i go to hell, i win. because god cant resist destroying his misfit toys. he is his own worst enemy. and for as long as he exists (if he exists) that fact will forever haunt him. he cant fix everything or there would be no hell, no judgment day, none of it. dare i say it...he is imperfect.

originally posted by: iclimbtowers
a reply to: Diderot

Do you believe, that satan was the serpent in the garden of eden?

Belief wouldn't be necessary if you could cite an iota of testable evidence proving that the Garden of Eden, the serpent or Satan exist(ed). Can you?

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: GoOfYFoOt

And, 30 minutes later the prediction comes true...

Just let people worship what they want to worship. Can we do that without labeling every single person who is not a damn christian as a satanist fencewalking evil doer?

Wasn't there another part in the bible about being the first to cast a stone? If there is only One who can judge us, wouldn't be more peaceful to keep your religious beliefs to yourself, and respect others enough to allow them to do the same? Self rightousness and zealotry are very unbecoming.

You do realize this is a religious forum don't you? Who the hell are you to tell someone in this forum to keep their beliefs to themselves?

To answer your question, it seems like he's a rational person.

a reply to: TzarChasm
That's an interesting look on it. I too harbored similar feelings towards god when I believed in it. In my mind, if god were perfect, then we'd get to live forever in that sweet spot: - when life was the best for us. I also think that any god who'd let babies burn alive is a terrible, evil god. Many other examples. I was so mad at god for so long until one day I decided that: Either God is real and he is an evil entity; Or, god is non-existent. At 12, I went with non-existent and have never looked back. Nothing has changed my mind.

originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: TzarChasm
That's an interesting look on it. I too harbored similar feelings towards god when I believed in it. In my mind, if god were perfect, then we'd get to live forever in that sweet spot: - when life was the best for us. I also think that any god who'd let babies burn alive is a terrible, evil god. Many other examples. I was so mad at god for so long until one day I decided that: Either God is real and he is an evil entity; Or, god is non-existent. At 12, I went with non-existent and have never looked back. Nothing has changed my mind.

someone who loses 90% of their product isnt very good at what they do. someone who designs their product with the intention of losing that 90%...now thats just wasteful.

a reply to: Diderot

The will of God can be ascertained from natural law, symmetry in nature and information science. A broad range of disciplines we observe mirror physical law. From any domain you can name, there will always be three aspects acting in union, with two of the powers acting in unison over a third.

The will of nature is to give and preserve. Life can be broken down into a seven part process that transmutes matter to subtle forms. A simple study of the strong nuclear force in relation to the weak will show you that there is a mathematical reason that all things in nature follow these seven fundamental processes. A side by side comparison of physics and natural law is parallel to all stories in the Bible. On every level, we are an image of the mirror we find in the Biblical narrative. Musical scale rests on the nodal points of a single vibrating medium. Apart from natural law, and the restriction of matter by law, the reality you live in would not be possible. Pick any discipline of study you like, the laws of invariance are translational to the phenomenon they manifest, just as one vibrating string resonates all of the steps of the musical scale by ratio.

Romans 1

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Suppression of truth is ignorance, or ignoring what is clearly manifest. Deny Ignorance.

Wow what a thread. It reads like more of a test to see what effects the blood moon is having. Looks like we are in for quite a harvest when them goods are cooked. Seriously though what effects does the moon have on us. I would say thhat moon now is evil cause it is red. I will be giving it no power. Eat up yall.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Fylgje

a reply to: TzarChasm

That's an interesting look on it. I too harbored similar feelings towards god when I believed in it. In my mind, if god were perfect, then we'd get to live forever in that sweet spot: - when life was the best for us. I also think that any god who'd let babies burn alive is a terrible, evil god. Many other examples. I was so mad at god for so long until one day I decided that: Either God is real and he is an evil entity; Or, god is non-existent. At 12, I went with non-existent and have never looked back. Nothing has changed my mind.

someone who loses 90% of their product isnt very good at what they do. someone who designs their product with the intention of losing that 90%...now thats just wasteful.

It seems wasteful until you find that your product has put a hit out on you.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Wait... did I catch that?

The moon is evil because its red? Is that what you just said? AYFKM!? So... if I drive a red pinto, the pinto is evil?

...because its red? So... the sun's light being g projected onto the moon in turn causes the moon to be evil?

Damn...

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Fylgje

a reply to: TzarChasm

That's an interesting look on it. I too harbored similar feelings towards god when I believed in it. In my mind, if god were perfect, then we'd get to live forever in that sweet spot: - when life was the best for us. I also think that any god who'd let babies burn alive is a terrible, evil god. Many other examples. I was so mad at god for so long until one day I decided that: Either God is real and he is an evil entity; Or, god is non-existent. At 12, I went with non-existent and have never looked back. Nothing has changed my mind.

someone who loses 90% of their product isnt very good at what they do. someone who designs their product with the intention of losing that 90%...now thats just wasteful.

It seems wasteful until you find that your product has put a hit out on you.

every time i make a remark like the one you just responded to, it seems like the answer neglects to account for the fundamental assertion that GOD CREATED EVERYTHING. nothing happens without his knowledge - and therefore, his permission. unless he;s in the habit of lying down like a rug and letting people walk all over him. so if one of these products puts a hit out on him, its because he put that somewhere in their programming. or made them susceptible to the temptation with the knowledge that they would inevitably succumb.

you cant be all knowing and all powerful and still get a free pass when something goes wrong. thats a contradiction and implies that your omnipotence and omniscience is conditional. in other words NOT perfect.

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: deadeyedick

Wait... did I catch that?

The moon is evil because its red? Is that what you just said? AYFKM!? So... if I drive a red pinto, the pinto is evil?

...because its red? So... the sun's light being g projected onto the moon in turn causes the moon to be evil?

Damn...

A red Pinto, is NOT evil... BUT, the makers of the Pinto, Ford Motor Corp. could be considered very evil, for not redesigning the flawed gas tank prior to production! And, instead, hedging that future lawsuits would cost less...

Perhaps the OP should have been, "Do you love God, or Ford?...

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

Yea it's shotty humor. People attracted to the color red serve satan.

originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: Diderot

The will of God can be ascertained from natural law, symmetry in nature and information science. A broad range of disciplines we observe mirror physical law. From any domain you can name, there will always be three aspects acting in union, with two of the powers acting in unison over a third.

The will of nature is to give and preserve. Life can be broken down into a seven part process that transmutes matter to subtle forms. A simple study of the strong nuclear force in relation to the weak will show you that there is a mathematical reason that all things in nature follow these seven fundamental processes. A side by side comparison of physics and natural law is parallel to all stories in the Bible. On every level, we are an image of the mirror we find in the Biblical narrative. Musical scale rests on the nodal points of a single vibrating medium. Apart from natural law, and the restriction of matter by law, the reality you live in would not be possible. Pick any discipline of study you like, the laws of invariance are translational to the phenomenon they manifest, just as one vibrating string resonates all of the steps of the musical scale by ratio.

Romans 1

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Suppression of truth is ignorance, or ignoring what is clearly manifest. Deny Ignorance.

is that why your threads are so popular? *cough cough*

a reply to: deadeyedick

Well... that explains the birthmark....

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

"I personally cheer for the bad guys in the movies."

I would expect no less from a misanthrope!

a reply to: TzarChasm

"The wayward soul that fails to glorify and praise God, must surely bow to the will of Satan."

" Bull #... "

"As Bob Dylan said, “We must serve somebody.”


"...and double bull #. "

I take it that you are an authority on bull #.

a reply to: jimmyx

Hello jimmy,

"...however, I do believe in "bad people" and "good people"...both should be individually held responsible for the actions they take toward others. it's time to stop blaming someone or something else."

I think that your words could not be closer to the truth.

When we pass, all that remains is what we have done.

That may be dust upon the rubble of history,

or it may be widespread gratitude for a life well lived.

a reply to: arpgme

Hello arpgme,

"The enemy/adversary (satan) wants you to be hateful, that's the whole point of being an enemy/adversary. It requires hatred in order to exist."

Hatred is a pathology that destroys the soul.

When we hate, we diminish Humanity.

I acknowledge the presence of evil and injustice in our world,

but hatred does not enrich you or me.

a reply to: AlephBet

"The will of God can be ascertained from natural law, symmetry in nature and information science. A broad range of disciplines we observe mirror physical law. From any domain you can name, there will always be three aspects acting in union, with two of the powers acting in unison over a third.

There is clearly a compelling truth in the veiled wisdom of the Kabbalah. I am no wiser than countless sages who have preceded me, and I must confess that I fail to see the inevitable truth of the God of Judeo-Christian tradition. But you and I both distill the truth of our convictions to arrive at a point of relative inerrancy. We are correct and others are otherwise.

a reply to: Nechash

"Those who fight for the interest of self and humankind are probably the only sane ones around."

Some among us gaze Heaven-ward, and bide their mortality until the start of their real life, in the
embrace of God.

Meanwhile we must cope with their preparations for eternity;

far too often we get tangled in their zeal.