Do you love God, or do you love Satan?

Do you love God, or do you love Satan?

Yes, this question is outrageous. But for some, this life on Earth is a battle between virtue and evil. The wayward soul that fails to glorify and praise God, must surely bow to the will of Satan. As Bob Dylan said, “We must serve somebody.”

But there are those of us who cherish and embrace the majesty of Nature, and who recoil at the accusation of evil. We are borne of and nurtured by Gaia and the hallowed Earth.

Evil by any measure is a blasphemy of the virtue of family and community and love.

To those enthralled by the inerrancy of their beliefs, I would ask,

Do your convictions reveal the inferiority of your skeptics?

I have no love for fictional characters....Dylan does not speak for me. I think for myself, act on my own volition, am kind to others and do what I believe is right. I dont need to serve anybody.

a reply to: thesmokingman
You avatar says differently

a reply to: thesmokingman

Countdown to thread being inundated with religious nuts ETA: any time soonish.

Best reponse ever award goes to, thesmokingman.

originally posted by: Max_TO
a reply to: thesmokingman
You avatar says differently

I dont know or love William B. Davis. I enjoyed his work on the X-files though.

originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: thesmokingman

Countdown to thread being inundated with religious nuts ETA: any time soonish.

Best reponse ever award goes to, thesmokingman.

I hear you there....in 3...2....1....
Thank you for the kind words by the way.

a reply to: Diderot

In my experience its one and the same. Both are necessary to find balance. They are 2 parts to a whole universe. 2 parts of you.

If you are one to embrace one side or the other you WILL end up in imbalance that will spiral out of control. Honest people make mistakes. Dishonest people lose their minds from not understanding their evil and flip like a coin. Its all they know.

Extremes.

I look for balance. Try to be good without being an idiot. Bad without being a jerk.

God is what you do. You can say and pray all day. In the end what you DO is what matters.

Punish evil. Hurt it. Help Good. Bless it.
Help good evil. Bless it. Punish evil good. Hurt it.

EDIT TO ADD:
Another way of this is, see the good in evil, the evil in good. See things for what they are. See yourself. Once you do that dont be a spectator. Put a dog in that race and make a bet. Risk something worthwhile for something worthwhile.

a reply to: thesmokingman


Ok ok , so you admire fictional characters.

originally posted by: Max_TO
a reply to: thesmokingman


Ok ok , so you admire fictional characters.

Im not sure where you are heading here, or what you are trying to do, but I will tell you, you are only making yourself look bad....Never did I say I ADMIRE the character either. I said I enjoyed his work on a television show. Now you on the other hand.....

a reply to: AnonyMason

Religious nuttiness aside I have seen good and evil as a force...an entity separate from humans. It is something that can dictate what you do. Most people lead a very mundane life and will never experience this "war". Some of us stepped into it and the veil becomes thin.

I try and stay on the side of good its why I have lost so much in life, I do not care for the material world as much.

Its all very complex.

a reply to: Diderot

It's interesting that you contrast virtue against nature as though they are necessarily opposing forces.

I don't think they are opposing forces at all. Nature is not evil. It simply is. The animals do things in innocence. When the lion kills, no matter how horrifically it does so, it does not know that our senses of morality of even of ethics may be offended by the obvious suffering of the prey. The lion only knows it must eat and what it must do in order to satisfy that need.

For humans it's different, we do perceive how we might damage others by our own actions or inactions even when we act to satisfy the demands of nature. That still doesn't make nature evil. It only means that we have a responsibility to ourselves and others to act in a way that does no harm or minimizes the harm we do.

I think as a traditional Judeo-Christian sense, god and satan are about as interesting as Gandalf and salron...fictional representations of good and evil, and I think of things in those terms for religion questions...
Gandalf of course would be the guy I would rather be under if I found myself in middle earth.

As far as reality is concerned...God (for me) represents the awesomeness of life and love...is it some creator deity? meh, not in my mind. perhaps there is, but I don't know that. I do know that there is life here now, and with plenty of warts and flaws, it is ultimately a "good" thing.
Satan then would be the polar opposite..death, oppression, hate, etc...and I am opposed to that.

So, as an agnostic atheist, I would say I love the god side of things (or good side anyhow)...

But yeah, in religious contexts, there is better fantasy out there...

a reply to: thesmokingman
I see you have edited your original post to say more than you "don't love fictional characters".

All I was doing was pointing out that you too share a fondness of fictional characters as your name and avatar testify to .

a reply to: Diderot

Synthesis is inherently superior to either thesis or antithesis, but that is only a two dimensional system. In the complexities of the real world, I doubt binary mutually exclusive dilemmas are the state of reality. At any rate, I think Satan/YHVH is that two face character off the batman series just dying to be worshiped. After all, if you truly rule the cosmos, why allow anyone else whatsoever to get a piece of your action? Those who fight for the interest of self and humankind are probably the only sane ones around.

a reply to: Diderot

Do you believe, that satan was the serpent in the garden of eden?

originally posted by: Max_TO
a reply to: thesmokingman
I see you have edited your original post to say more than you "don't love fictional characters".

All I was doing was pointing out that you too share a fondness of fictional characters as your name and avatar testify to .

Seriously dude, it does not matter if I added more to dont love fictional characters or not, either way you are trying to goad me into an argument for some reason, and seriously if you do not stop, I will report you. Let me just say it one more time for you since you cannot seem to comprehend: I do not love, nor do I admire any fictional characters.

ETA there is a huge difference between sharing a fondness for, and loving. I believe your only intention was to troll and start an argument. Grow up.

a reply to: thesmokingman

Dude's trollin.

Have some of this, my friend.

a reply to: thesmokingman

So then, would it be fair to assume that the soul purpose of your original post was to discredit the OP by crying fairytale?

a reply to: Max_TO

dude,

stop.