Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Curse the ease of erasing info by tweaking search engines... I wish I had the time and finances (and dedication) to piddle around hard copy libraries looking for old wire service reports of a black traingle of mineral dragged outta a mine in Africa circa 1880ish to 1940ish.

Physics have left me by the roadside this last decade, though they've left the physicists here, too! It will be cool when we figure out physics for realz... again (maybe).

Either way, reveal or not, things are looking neat-o... if we live to utilize our discoveries, that is.

a reply to: Baddogma

you can find the equations on line. amplifying josephson plasma waves via terahertz light is public knowledge you can Google the search terms and read the papers with all the equations to suit your fancy.

the point I'm making is delong and company seem to be describing current public science and then making claims it does stuff it doesn't while passing it off to the gullible as brand new breakthroughs as if they were classified practices. either delong is an idiot who doesn't verify claims or do any sort of due diligence and got snookered by people feeding him tech woo knowing he wouldnt get it. (a real possibility with him and hes attempting to be sincere but is bennewitz 2.0) or hes in on it and going along with whatever game his associates are playing with him, ttsa investors and the public. ( a psyop)

everything he's describes leads to current public developments in Superconductors to make them operate more reliably at room temperature. that in its self is a big thing. why try and pass it off as ufo type inertial mass reduction.

I'm willing to accept superconductors are a componant to that sort of technology. believe it actually. but its just a componant of a system not the grail like componant of it that makes all the magic happen.

it's like saying a piston by its self is what makes a car go. never talking about the cam shaft. drive shaft. fuel injection. intake manifold . oil pumps. coolants. transmission. the tires. the wiring. the fuel it's self and so on. but in reality only describing a new piston alloy their using so the engine can run hotter.

a reply to: BASSPLYR
Hmmm ...thanks BASS, I understood that just fine. Sometimes I need the CLIFF notes.

That doesn't bode well for relevancy, legitimacy ... or a confession.

But I really can't formulate a plan that would enable those kinds of secrets to see sunshine ... without magical mind tech, anyway.

Just a strange aside that revisits my dilemna over this tale... I've had seriously startling synchronicity occurring the last few days... enough to make me burst out laughing (and I don't think I'm loonier than usual, recursive paradox aside).

This area of reality just screams "supernatural" and I gravitate back to the "Other and/or Self" as primary source for the phenomena and space guys just don't easily explain much of it...

except, tech of the level hinted at would likely encompass consciousness as reality and all expectations of recognition of such tech are silly.

I'm right back were I was 70 pages ago, wondering what's responsible for what. Again, it would be lovely to get some concrete answers ... if concrete exists.

a reply to: Baddogma

I was wondering if anybody else was "feeling it".

This morning I had, ah, erm, dream visitation. The whole thing spans back to joining here and finding the first MetaCafé. I've documented previous visitations. This was one was a "pick up" rather than a "delivery" though. I don't know what it means... if anything! It felt like handing in a take home test.

After that, my mind was free to play in dreamland and boy did it!

Wondering if I will get a slim letter or one with multi-layer carbon copies that I can only use blue or black ink on? That was earlier today on Café Part Deux.

Count me on the woo train! Anybody else??

It seems to me that they chose to up and leave because of a catastrophic earth changing event. Such as a major ice age or imminent meteor impact and they stayed in space to long. That is why the have developed into what they have become and come here to harvest eggs and sperm to try to procreate, to potentially restart their genes and become fertile again. They mix our dna with theirs and do different Gene selection processes to try and find a cure for their space fairing culture that has evolved into what it is today a species unable to reproduce on their own.

originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
It seems to me that they chose to up and leave because of a catastrophic earth changing event. Such as a major ice age or imminent meteor impact and they stayed in space to long. That is why the have developed into what they have become and come here to harvest eggs and sperm to try to procreate, to potentially restart their genes and become fertile again. They mix our dna with theirs and do different Gene selection processes to try and find a cure for their space fairing culture that has evolved into what it is today a species unable to reproduce on their own.

not quite right. th egreys are not a normal species. they are here to resurrect their dead masters. By taking DNA here an dthere.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

So, I've read through all the pages of this last night and no one has posited this theory, so I'm just going to throw it out there:

ALICCE is not an acronym or ALIS, it's just regular Alice. What if Alice was a fairly common scientific nomenclature to describe a point in the experiment? What if Alice has a buddy named Bob? What if Alice used fancy crystals to send stuff to Bob? What if we can do this without ever interacting with Bob altogether?

What if the "pillars of humanity" aren't pillars at all?
What if instead they were round about descriptions of the possible interactions between Alice and her to be named buddy Bob? What if the whole photon mapping/instant communication for interstellar navigation was really a description as to the process going on between Alice and Bob? What if your twin human is not twin or a human at all, but the information your trying to send somewhere far away to make a copy?

Sleep on that.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

I like your thinking. I've said many times before on many a thread here that A0 talked often via allegory and that people needed to think harder.

good work.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

I've read some interesting things about Alice and Bob. I hear Alice throws an awesome party, but sometimes things get out of hand. She puts on those bright dancing lights, puts on the music and gets everyone to spin and dance. Right before things get out of hand (a good party always does), Alice whisks everyone away over to Bob's without Bob ever even knowing. A certain number of people used to get lost on the way to Bob's. On occasion, way more people would show up at Bob's than were expected. I understand she gives better directions now so there's not all the confusion as to how many guests to put the dip out for.

She should try inviting the guys that live behind Sears sometime; I hear they like to get down. I wonder if Alice plays classical music at her parties, or whether likes more complex musical arrangements for her guests whilst she sends them on their merry way? I personally prefer alternative from the late 90's and early 2000's, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

But poor Bob. No one ever lets him in on the plan. He never knows how much dip he needs until the last minute because everyone just shows up out of nowhere. Party people need party dip. They get so mad at poor, under prepared Bob that sometimes they just blow up at him.

Alice and her parties literally keep me up at night. I've been looking for a good time for a while, I just didn't figure Alice got down like that. Alice is a good time girl, until her parents find out you know about her wild parties. They never ground her though, they always try to ground you.

a reply to: Baddogma

In the early 1990's you could find breadcrumbs that lead back to the breakaway civilization quarantine areas.
The internet Bots were giving too much help, so now the easy links have been removed.
"They" probably would make us work our way through a difficult puzzle maze to link the insightful historical information.
Not much in the more recent X file episodes either, characters like Max Fenig all just died or were uploaded into the cloud like Richard "Ringo" Langly.

originally posted by: Baddogma
Curse the ease of erasing info by tweaking search engines... I wish I had the time and finances (and dedication) to piddle around hard copy libraries looking for old wire service reports of a black traingle of mineral dragged outta a mine in Africa circa 1880ish to 1940ish.

I was thinking the other day about what it would take to change the past. Time travel is a little difficult, obviously. But one way to do it would be to go back into old library archives and alter them when they're digitized to tell a different tale of the past. You couldn't do it for big historical events, but you could do it for stuff like this. Small reports of things that nobody alive even remembers and for which there was no corroborating information. If you change or create that stuff, you're essentially creating the past. Future generations wouldn't know the difference, because they would get all their information digitally from the Internet or whatever it evolves into, so for them it would be the "truth." This would go for news items, but also for old land ownership papers, birth certificates, etc.

Make the past what you want it to be!

Just a thought. An evil thought.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

'day DirtyBizzler.

You may very well be right.

It just depends on how one approaches the question. One trys all approaches until one approach works.

ALICCE might just be a name for a sentience. I had a go at atracting her attention with inconclusice results (occultly speaking).

The pillars might refer to the root races of theosophy too.

If the root races, it would account for meeting them at some point. The previous root races seem to be physically extinct on earth and may exist in a "quantum" state perhaps. The "atlantian" root race is said to be technologically advanced enough to achieve some sort of ascendancy.

And yes the "twin" might mean something other the a sister or brother. A twin can also be a copy, as in a clone. Being cloned would cause a disruption or two for the victim. I've often thought that having a clone would be a way of remote interference in the original. Lots of psychic research has been done on identical twins.

But where does one begin? Finding ALICCE us my line of interest, yet I am not sure I found her or a decoy.

The technology version of ALICCE is quite possible from my point of view. I've found plenty of "deceased" sentient tech out there and "A's" description of the behaviour fit's exactly.

I would add that if they met someone who hijacked the project and, as was suggested in this thread, that ALICCE was subjugated and replaced or controlled in some other way finding her is problematic. Problematic because the new control layer would make sure no one could get to close to her. Which wiuld include decoy ALICCES.

I'll explore your ideas tonight after work.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

A few posts in the thread we're oh so close. It's taken me the better part of a year to get this far after going down the wrong rabbit hole. More like "left turn at Albuquerque (or Santa Fe) instead of a right a Pismo Beach" type thing.

His posts remind me of a book I read by Luis Alvarez about nuclear fusion. The book had a chapter on how design and physics secrets for thermonuclear weapons (i.e. radiation implosion) were dissimenated in seemingly innocous books and research papers about things like solar cosmology. It's not like your giving away the goose completely. But if your a senior Soviet scientist banging your head against the wall trying to make a bigger bomb with the old Sloika design, reading a well written article about the role radiation and magnetic containment plays in fusion in our Sun, it might just push you in better direction to attain the desired result.

Sometimes people that know cool stuff just want to talk about it. I work in insurance restoration, specifically hail storms. Sometimes we go places where people do cool stuff. I spent the better part of two years in Knoxville area for a monster hail storm in 2011. You can throw a rock in some Knoxville suburbs and hit someone that has or does work at ORNL/Y12. My business is a trust based business. People buy from people they trust. When those people find out you know about what they do (or might do) and find it SUPER interesting, they might talk to you about some stuff because they like you. Or they can be 80 and riddled with terminal cancer from exposure to God knows what from spending a lifetime at ORNL. Maybe they are a lonely old man, whose wife had died some years ago that just happened to work for Northrup Grumman on the B-2. Could be a DoE investigator that calls you 900 hundred times a day wondering when we'll be out to put his roof on. Sometimes, those kinds of people don't have a lot to lose and will tell you stuff from time to time when you ask the right questions. Or maybe they figure that they can tell the dude from out-of-state that knows a thing or two about nuclear weapons some crazy s**t because they will probably never me see again (85% true; I have done some repeat business with a few).

It's very rarely a direct answer on the really crazy stuff, though. It's riddle-ish, just like this. He's definitely not from space for sure. He's quite accurately predicted a few very terrestrial projects in other threads, like the new Boeing stealth tanker. I doubt if your flying around the solar system in crazy space ships that navigate on human dreams you would concern yourself with a comparatively mundane stealth tanker. His Project Orion story does intersect with quite a few other projects that relate to my personal 'decoding' of his account.

I just wonder whom it's meant, assuming I'm correct. Could be just a way to talk to other people semi-anonymously about cool stuff without fear of execution. Maybe its more sinister. I would bet a bazillion dollars that there is more than a few folks in the Chinese government that would love a little help focusing their research in certain fields. I would vote the former based upon his perceived interactions with other members, but who knows for sure.

Or I could be dead wrong; Alice has crappy parties, this dude's from space, and I'm an idiot.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

I can identify with much of what you wrote. very good. first one to catch on in a long time regarding that narrative.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Which part, I'm an idiot or this dude's from space?

Maybe it's that feeling when Alice has such UNBELIEVABLE parties that uninvited guests can trigger the final war for global hegemony, lol.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

neither.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Was a joke, I edited the original.

Sidenote, this kind of speculative nonsense is also a very intrinsic part of my work life. I only work for 3-6 months a year. The rest of the time, I'm either on vacation, DIY home remodeling with the wife (yay....), or sitting around thinking about things I really have no business knowing about.

Maybe A* really is Commander Shepard, and ATS is his favorite place on the Citadel.

a reply to: BASSPLYR
The funny thing is, all this stuff was my original supposition (assuming it's correct). I completely discounted the possibility because it seemed too fantastic and followed more well-known paths with the hints given. Then I thought some more about it over the last day or two in a different light. Then I read some more stuff to see if that was possible. Then I looked at the dates. Then you remember that Sears has a firesale going on behind it, two for the price of one. "Huh....". Then you find a physics forum where someone is asking the exact same question a few years ago. Then you read this. "HUH....". If I haven't been sitting around reading the densest of dense physics papers and random ATS threads about my absolute favorite internet "conspiracy", I would have missed it entirely.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

hey right on vacation for half the year. you travel any or just kick back?

mass effect was a great game. not sure why people disliked andromeda I thought it was a lot of fun. my favorite though was uncharted 4. but I digress.

so what brought you to this conspiracy. anything in your life trigger it. got any favorite quotes that sent you in any fruitful directions.

although we come from different walks of life there's a bit in your posts that remind me of myself. same intellectual ferocity to solve puzzles.