Unknown orange/red glow over Pacific Ocean

Maybe this is what the joint US China military exercise was preparing for ? .haha..
Kidding but if the exercise took place in that exact area I may stop smiling.

Fascinating! So is it still glowing there?

a reply to: bdotz

Interesting idea, and welcome to the site!

Methane.....maybe so. All I could think reading it was something volcanic, and how scary that would be flying over the area.

originally posted by: Jungian

originally posted by: bdotz
Jungian... Fishing boats are probably the first thing all of us thought it could be. But spend a little time considering the lights aren't the normal colours used, and that if these are fishing boats, the area a single boat is illuminating is absolutely huge, you can quickly assume that it isn't fishing boats creating the light.

I guess, but I lean a lot more towards sensationalism like a UFO hoax.

First, in the article, the fellow clearly states he does NOT think it's fishing boats. Second, he didn't mention a UFO, and suggested something volcanic, so why would you assume a UFO hoax?? That makes no sense. Some sort of geothermal activity is the most logical explanation here, especially considering the recent quakes, and how unstable the Pacific has been in recent years.

a reply to: bdotz

Maybe burning remnants of the ships that were used as targets in the "beam weapon test". Or maybe the beam punched a hole straight through the earth's crust... O.O I wonder if there were any effects in the antipodes of this location? Maybe thats where the test took place and we are looking at the antipodes.

originally posted by: nataylor
Tamu Massif is about 1,000 miles south of this area.

I am not saying Tamu Massif is the target area, I've already told you I think they have seen a possible new island some way out from Kanchatka, and very similar to the new island 'Niijima' which is still erupting and growing, and BTW, is given as 650 miles off the the coast of Japan to the South so should also be in deep water, which also BTW, noone picked up on until it appeared?
However I think the mobile, (relatively speaking) Tamu Massif, once though an underwater plateau is influential in undersea movement all round that huge area.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: bdotz

Maybe burning remnants of the ships that were used as targets in the "beam weapon test". Or maybe the beam punched a hole straight through the earth's crust... O.O I wonder if there were any effects in the antipodes of this location? Maybe thats where the test took place and we are looking at the antipodes.

I think that missile fell back to the launch pad and burnt a few bums. oops! no that was another incident.

originally posted by: bdotz

UNLESS this is genuinely an unbelievably enormous eruption spewing out fresh (not a good word) magma quicker than it is being cooled.

In my personal opinion, I assume that light is being created from something burning on the surface of the water. It has been suggested that it could be methane, burning remnants of a meteor etc etc. The earthquakes that occurred around the time of this event could very easily have disturbed a methane deposit. We already know it is very possible that some of these methane pockets can geneually be enormous, the presence of other gasses can explain the variation in colour, and the "beam of light" could have been what ignited the methane, or the release of energy from the ignition of the methane itself. The green aurora in the atmosphere again could be due to the presence of huge quantities of methane if it has been venting for some time.

Hi and welcome bdotz,
As far as the eruptions at Niijima go the lava is still coming out and as the island grows, there are tubes and lava flows back to the sea. Methane is as good an explanation, or it could even both, an eruption and an ignition of Methane, one a result of the other who knows?

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: nataylor
Tamu Massif is about 1,000 miles south of this area.

I am not saying Tamu Massif is the target area, I've already told you I think they have seen a possible new island some way out from Kanchatka, and very similar to the new island 'Niijima' which is still erupting and growing, and BTW, is given as 650 miles off the the coast of Japan to the South so should also be in deep water, which also BTW, noone picked up on until it appeared?
However I think the mobile, (relatively speaking) Tamu Massif, once though an underwater plateau is influential in undersea movement all round that huge area.

That new island is along a ridge, where the peaks are already very shallow. The area of the volcano/cone I was talking about is very deep, not along a similar ridge of volcanic islands like that new Japanese island is. An island popping up in shallow water is not surprising. One popping up in 10,000 foot deep water would be.

a reply to: Cyruay

I have mentioned sprites, elves and gamma ray explosions a few times on the thread, IMO it is a possibility, especially given that the research is new and there could be more, and perhaps as yet undiscovered phenomena.

a reply to: AnonymousWitness

Could you ask if global lightning databases were checked, if possible.

Here is the real time World Wide Lightning Network page. Perhaps if the exact coordinates could be known and the location monitored on the WWLN map, there might be some correlation.

wwlln.net...

originally posted by: lindalinda
No thanks, I'll pass.
a reply to: VoidHawk

Ignorance is bliss.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: Jungian

originally posted by: bdotz
Jungian... Fishing boats are probably the first thing all of us thought it could be. But spend a little time considering the lights aren't the normal colours used, and that if these are fishing boats, the area a single boat is illuminating is absolutely huge, you can quickly assume that it isn't fishing boats creating the light.

I guess, but I lean a lot more towards sensationalism like a UFO hoax.

First, in the article, the fellow clearly states he does NOT think it's fishing boats. Second, he didn't mention a UFO, and suggested something volcanic, so why would you assume a UFO hoax?? That makes no sense. Some sort of geothermal activity is the most logical explanation here, especially considering the recent quakes, and how unstable the Pacific has been in recent years.

All fair. Just keep UFO's out of it was all I really meant. I was jaded by early comments I read elsewhere about it possibly being extra terrestrial. My bad.

originally posted by: lovebeck
Thanks for the (unneeded) photography lesson...Your comment "dark requires exposure to be long" is EXACTLY my point. There is NO way that a photo is going to come out like that, taken from an airplane, with a 30 second exposure. Most people that are serious about photography understand this. Also, if taking such a long exposure then why the need for such a high ISO?

Please understand that I do know what I am talking about. I've taken thousands of photos over the years. When I take long exposure photos I even use a remote to ensure there is no camera shake.

Btw, I don't need to go out and look at the night sky, thanks though. Your point makes no sense as THE PLANE IS MOVING. The camera would also be moving, there would be camera shake, etc. Even on a tripod, the plane is moving, so would the lights and there would be some star trails if, in fact, that was a 30 second exposure.

There is so much wrong with the photo, and the way it was supposedly taken, that there is no way this is legit.
Period.

Please refer to Danowski's post on page one of the thread - link - and note that the exposure time listed is EIGHT seconds, NOT thirty seconds, as you keep claiming.

EIGHT seconds, on a plane, out the front of the plane, no less, means a very stable distant image, and EIGHT seconds of exposure seems about right for a night shot of the sort we have.

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
Sprite lightning sounds possible. AKA St. Elmo's fire. Some sort of Transient Luminous Event (TLE) or Gamma ray flash.

en.wikipedia.org...(lightning)

news.discovery.com...

Red sprites can race high toward space, up to 60 miles (96 kilometers) above the Earth. Astronauts aboard the International Space Station caught a sprite on camera in 2012. A sprite's red tendrils also reach down into the stratosphere, about 15 to 20 miles (25 to 32 km) above Earth's surface. They look brightest between 40 to 45 miles (65 to 72 km) up.

www.albany.edu...

space.io9.com...

Gamma rays are more typically associated with exploding stars or nuclear fusion, but in 1994, we caught them being produced by terrestrial lightning strikes. Only about 500 of the 4.3 million daily lightning strokes have an associated terrestrial gamma-ray flash, and that's about all we know about the process. The Firestation instrument on the International Space Station is a one-year mission to collect multi-wavelength observations on lightning strikes as seen from high above in an effort to learn more about this phenomena.

OOO, fascinating stuff! I hadn't heard of that phenomenon before. Excellent reading. Ball lightning, I knew about, but not these sprites. TYTYTY for posting that.

a reply to: Bspiracy

He's still in the air force so it's difficult to get a hold of him, but I called my brother and got his email address from him and sent him the link along with the pictures yesterday so I'll find out as soon as he responds.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Actually on the last picture in the OP, it is taken with 30-second exposure. It says so in the watermark.

And in case anyone missed the new photos, here it is:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: nataylor

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: nataylor
Tamu Massif is about 1,000 miles south of this area.

I am not saying Tamu Massif is the target area, I've already told you I think they have seen a possible new island some way out from Kanchatka, and very similar to the new island 'Niijima' which is still erupting and growing, and BTW, is given as 650 miles off the the coast of Japan to the South so should also be in deep water, which also BTW, noone picked up on until it appeared?
However I think the mobile, (relatively speaking) Tamu Massif, once though an underwater plateau is influential in undersea movement all round that huge area.

That new island is along a ridge, where the peaks are already very shallow. The area of the volcano/cone I was talking about is very deep, not along a similar ridge of volcanic islands like that new Japanese island is. An island popping up in shallow water is not surprising. One popping up in 10,000 foot deep water would be.

Even more reason for Niijima not to go undetected then.
So what ridge do you mean 650miles out? the Izu-Ogasawara-Marianas Trench by any chance? 'cos that's where it is.

Here is the location on google maps.

google map

The ISS should be passing over the area within the next hour (unfortunately it will be daylight this pass) but woth keeping an eye on if you can find a live feed.
The HDEV camera is just black at the moment (and it's my bedtime).
HDEV Feed