Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

a reply to: rustyclutch


Your link is not valid.

If it the same as has been posted before I thought they were identified as toilet paper.

syria was a false flag also... failed one and now they try to make a round 2... all wars, sadam also... Both accused with chemicals, sadam was totally false flag, syria proved never used it... There is a panic in my country right now, today, people will sail over the chemical ship to riot against it, because they try to destroy the chems near my country.

Are we viewing the unraveling of Putin? He has been acting a fool for a long time but I see Hague charges here

a reply to: rustyclutch

Toilet paper, probably. Chaff does not look like that.

a reply to: Assassin82
You make a good point. I give my reasons for believing the USMSM on this one.
Everyone needs to calm down, and I hope that this leads to a de-escalation of violence in the region.
However, Hope is that little pathetic creature Pandora found left half-dead in the box.

originally posted by: cry93
Are we viewing the unraveling of Putin? He has been acting a fool for a long time but I see Hague charges here

I doubt, even if evidence was found that Cossack rebels fired the missile, that it could be tied directly to Putin.

Vlad has nothing to gain from this mistake. Hence the cover up (and the legions of new posters on this site in the last day).

a reply to: cry93
Not unless he goes of the deep end. We need a new disorder that he can go into treatment for.

a reply to: clay2 baraka

Yeah I was thinking chaff usually involved falling fire...kind of like flares. I just wasn't sure....It seemed to be falling straight down not blowing in the wind really so it made me think twice.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Vovin
Well I could not care less about their headlines. I watched the video and the link I posted was the URL off the page that I watched the video through.

In case you didn't know, BIN has pretty much been banned as a source here and rightly so given the perpetual hoaxing they try and push.

In case you didn't read my last two posts you were responding to, I was only linking to the video. I don't know what BIN is nor do I care.

originally posted by: rustyclutch
a reply to: clay2 baraka

Yeah I was thinking chaff usually involved falling fire...kind of like flares. I just wasn't sure....It seemed to be falling straight down not blowing in the wind really so it made me think twice.

You are thinking of flares which are used to confuse infrared tracking systems. Chaff are small bits of foil used to create a metal cloud preventing a radar lock on the target.

dont forget the israeli illegal invasion in gaza which almost got no report because of this false flag.. nice coincidence...NOT

www.zerohedge.com...

Nice to see some of the NSA shills active at work supporting US and KIEV view of "BLAME RUSSIAN" meme..

Just like 9-11 , the bloods will be on US's hand .. no one is fooled again with these kind of false flag operation.. Reveal the MH370 truth and you will see who behind all these 'disapperance' and 'shooting'..

Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have proof about an incredible set of tools used by the British equivalent of the NSA, known as the GCHQ, or Government Communications Headquarters. These tools will essentially confirm every single conspiracy theory you could have ever imagined when it comes to propaganda on the Internet. It allows British intelligence officers to: “manipulate the results of online polls, artificially inflate pageview counts on web sites, ‘amplify’ sanctioned messages on YouTube, and censor video content judged to be ‘extremist.’”

originally posted by: Vovin
In case you didn't read my last two posts you were responding to, I was only linking to the video. I don't know what BIN is nor do I care.

Ahh..so you don't care to know what the source of a video is you just link it..
got it.

originally posted by: cry93
Are we viewing the unraveling of Putin? He has been acting a fool for a long time but I see Hague charges here

Yes, Putin is evil and should be liquidated as soon as possible. USA and Israel should send special forces and take care of it like with Osama Bin Laden.

That's what America is about, taking care of business and getting paid!

originally posted by: rustyclutch
a reply to: clay2 baraka

Yeah I was thinking chaff usually involved falling fire...kind of like flares. I just wasn't sure....It seemed to be falling straight down not blowing in the wind really so it made me think twice.

Flare deployment from military aircraft -




Chaff deployment from military aircraft -


The below video shows both being tested. The bright objects are flares.


The Chaff deployment is not nearly as visible to the naked eye as flares are.

originally posted by: clay2 baraka

originally posted by: cry93
Are we viewing the unraveling of Putin? He has been acting a fool for a long time but I see Hague charges here

I doubt, even if evidence was found that Cossack rebels fired, the missile, that it could be tied directly to Putin. Vlad has nothing to gain from this mistake. Hence the cover up (and the legions of new posters on this site in the last day).

high performance SAMs like BUK is not some MANPADS that an infantryman can carry and shoot anytime he wishes..

these BUK SAMs are fired with certain set of target acquisition and order confirmation by the air defense commander, not some soldier who shot the missile out of boredom in the battlefield.

the only functional BUK SAM are in the Ukrainian Junta forces , First they told this airliner to 'DIVERT' to the warzone and then told them to go 'LOWER' and then suddenly it was shotdown and immediately every american politicians (heck even australian PM) put blame on russia and every western media also blame russia..

what a nice piece of coordination and orchestration by the USA.. good job

Anyone with a brain intact will see the amazing set of coincidence , anyone familiar with false flag will understand the modus operandi of US goverment.. Gulf of Tonkin false flag incident anyone ?

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Vovin
In case you didn't read my last two posts you were responding to, I was only linking to the video. I don't know what BIN is nor do I care.

Ahh..so you don't care to know what the source of a video is you just link it..
got it.

I'm not interested in your provocation. I saw a video that I had not seen before, claiming to be from the scene of this incident. The video was accessible from this BIN website. So I posted the URL to the BIN page with the video.

BIN obviously wasn't the source of the video, they just picked up on it. Since I don't speak or read Russian, I used the BIN page because it is in English. I accessed the BIN page from another source posting the video.

Are we clear yet or do you still find it necessary to rant about irrelevant details?

a reply to: milomilo

Russia manufactures the BUK sam systems and they still use them in their active military forces. Ukraine has them in their inventory because at one point Russia and Ukraine were allies.

The Pro Russian rebels overran a Ukraine supply depot and captured a BUK system. We know this from the photos they tweeted out of the capture. Secondly its been confirmed time and again that Russia military officers are involved and in place with the rebels. Also, as you are fond of pointing out, there were Ukraine soldiers who defected to Russia who could have known how to use the system.

Please stop trying to use disinformation / omissions to push an agenda.


ETA -
Wiki - BUK air defense system

The Russian company responsible for making the BUK was one of the defense contractors sanctioned in the latest round.

a reply to: mindseye1609

Wait so you accept it as fact that 911 was a false flag? Unbelievable how absurdly idiotic people are. The sad thing though is that probably most people on this site agree with you. And even sadder is that you think conspiracy chat rooms are more reliable than the mainstream media. But I digress, as of now there is quite a bit of evidence pointing to the russian separatists.

a reply to: milomilo

So according to you a plane was diverted which it wasnt and Ukrainian military placed air defense system in the middle of occupied territory. Nice syory but id have to say that iys stupid to presume they would risk capture of a sam unit. Now i agree it does require training and since sepratists bragged on having one before the incident, and was reported on AP spotted by reporters again before makes you wonder where they were trained huh?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: milomilo

Russia manufactures the BUK sam systems and they still use them in their active military forces. Ukraine has them in their inventory because at one point Russia and Ukraine were allies.

The Pro Russian rebels overran a Ukraine supply depot and captured a BUK system. We know this from the photos they tweeted out of the capture. Secondly its been confirmed time and again that Russia military officers are involved and in place with the rebels. Also, as you are fond of pointing out, there were Ukraine soldiers who defected to Russia who could have known how to use the system.

Please stop trying to use disinformation / omissions to push an agenda.


ETA -
Wiki - BUK air defense system

The Russian company responsible for making the BUK was one of the defense contractors sanctioned in the latest round.

That showed them!

Please put up those evidence proof links to really shut them up.