Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

Here is something no ones thought of. The two jets trailing the airliner were just there escorting the airplane out of the airspace? Of course the russians will use this and modify the black box recording to make it look like a shoot down i bet you.
Still SAMS in the 60s could shoot down a U2 at a much higher altitude. What happened is the russians fired a SAM and tried to hit the fighter escort but the SAM is known to go for the bigger target when not constantly monitored.

a reply to: Psynic

No it's on mine as well.

a reply to: yuppa

Of course the russians will use this and modify the black box recording to make it look like a shoot down i bet you.

Yes, of course. That is exactly what will happen.. those pesky black box modifying Russians..

a reply to: mclarenmp4
I am suggesting that it is entirely possible that there was a switch along the way. Have it fly in under one airliner and fly out as another. Either pre packed with explosives or as a target. Think about it there is a 777 that has completely disappeared in every possible way. How many times could they shuffle the numbers on a few different 777's around and use the disappeared one for nefarious purpouses.

a reply to: Hellas

You qouted my post. Can't you just explain what your point was?

a reply to: sheepslayer247
That is true sheep, I retract my statement. There is a time and place and its neither here nore there at the moment.

originally posted by: princeofpeace
Numbers and codes are all bull #. You can take any event and if one looks hard enough they can come up with some silly numerics to tie to it that has absolutely nothing to do with it. Its for folks with tin foil hats on who live in parents basements.

What's wrong with parent's basements?

Oh boy this must be big, there already asking the french president is thoughts on the incident. My prayers to the families of the victims.

originally posted by: hillbilly4rent

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: hillbilly4rent
Confirmed on fox a SAM did take it down, so now who is to blame.

if it's from Fox, then we all know that Obama did it

If it was from any other MSM then all would know Bush did it.

Actually I hear it was zombie Reagan that was to blame. But its also come out that the spirit of FDR was animating Reagan. So everyone is just confused again.

All joking aside I want to once again say how sad it is those people died. I will be keeping thoughts of them in my heart and soul. I hope there in a better place now.

a reply to: hillbilly4rent

My comment was not directed at just you. But I admire your understanding.

originally posted by: AstralTrespass
a reply to: Hellas

You qouted my post. Can't you just explain what your point was?

Both the condition and timing of finding all those passports!

a reply to: tranquilone666

OK then did they swap out the bodies mid flight as well? There's plenty of photo's online of the debris field filled with bodies and I'm sure they will get positively identified as people who boarded MH17.
Sorry but your argument still makes no sense.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
I am watching CNN, and they just said that it was very likely that it was shot down by Russian missiles.

Yeah but Russian missiles fired by WHO is the pertinent question.
Ukraine has Russian missiles, and the usual shoulder fired missiles don't have the capability to reach aircraft at 10,000 feet.

However there have been reports that the rebels have captured (or been supplied with) some BUK missiles that are more than capable.

Another consideration is that "national" air defence systems these days are tied in to the civil air traffic control, so can see the transponder "squawks" from airliners.

However someone who is NOT tied in and just turns his search and acquisition radar on will only see a "blip" - with no further identification.

IMO it is probably the rebels shot down this aircraft, and the political fallout will be whether or not the actual missile was supplied from over the border in Russia or not.

originally posted by: Indigo5
Something here on LiveLeak, but I don't read Russian...

Russian general was tweeting about successfull hit on Ukrainian transport ship

but it turned out to be passenger airplane from malaysia

*&^%up of the year?

Read more at www.liveleak.com...

Yes, earlier this afternoon the TASS (Russian) new agency were reporting that

"Donetsk, July 17. / ITAR-TASS /. Militias proclaimed the People's Republic of Donetsk (DNI) near the town of Torez downed military transport aircraft An-26 Ukrainian Air Force. This is reported by witnesses from the scene.

According to them, the plane was hit by a missile, and then began to lose altitude, crashed to the ground and burned.

July 14 militia proclaimed the People's Republic of Lugansk (LC) also knocked Ukrainian An-26 Air Force . As the press service of the LC said that five crew members of the downed plane captured (this on board were eight people). Speaker power operation while Vladislav Seleznev said that prisoners were "two members of the crew."

July 15 Ukrainian armed forces then suspended the use of air power in areas of operations in the south-east of the country."

(translation)

Oddly, the page is now 404ed .....

It is also reported that this was posted on Twitter - and since taken down.

Ergo: Strelkov the butcher thought, or wanted people to think, he had brought down another Ukrainian aircraft (using weapons he denies he has) and then realised he really was a dead man walking ..... Biggest oops yet!

One thing that I do not like about this entire incident is that they are showing pics and vids on the internet/media of the dead bodies.

I feel sorry for any family member of the victims that see their dead loved-ones being paraded all over the net and TV.

Does anyone else get the feeling that there's some Cobra Command sh*t going on here?

Like, who's to say those bodies weren't dropped out of the plane, mid-air, after being infected with some kind of chemical agent, you know, from that store of Sadam's chems that ISIS found last month...just sayin'. If we're living in a movie....

originally posted by: yuppa
Here is something no ones thought of. The two jets trailing the airliner were just there escorting the airplane out of the airspace? Of course the russians will use this and modify the black box recording to make it look like a shoot down i bet you.
Still SAMS in the 60s could shoot down a U2 at a much higher altitude. What happened is the russians fired a SAM and tried to hit the fighter escort but the SAM is known to go for the bigger target when not constantly monitored.

How many other flights through Ukraine got military escorts. I'm guessing this is the only one.

a reply to: tranquilone666

IR satellites that detect the "flare" of a rocket motor going off. One of the systems was TEAL RUBY which probably witnessed the testing of the israeli development program for nukes in the souther ocean for 1979. I was there for that too! AMAZING how fast the SR-71 can get from Japan to the Southern Ocean. Spooky!

originally posted by: mclarenmp4
a reply to: Psynic

No it's on mine as well.

What is it and why has it just appeared?

I had several open ATS windows at the time, but everytime I refreshed one, the 'hashbot.com borders appeared.