Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

a reply to: princeofpeace
Actually many of Nazi Germany's battle plans were based on numerology and astrology. I guess they went to war to find more basements and more aluminum foil for head gear.

a reply to: Indigo5

Are you sure that was referring to the airliner? 

Yes

originally posted by: princeofpeace
Numbers and codes are all bull #. You can take any event and if one looks hard enough they can come up with some silly numerics to tie to it that has absolutely nothing to do with it. Its for folks with tin foil hats on who live in parents basements.

Ahhh so now the insults start flying. It amazes me how many people come to conspiracy sites and are somehow bothered by people speculating. As if there have never been any conspiracies before. As if this all didn't happen under strange circumstances. Instead of debating facts you debate what kind of people we are and why we believe what we do. All without ever offering one shred of evidence or proof yourself. Seems your only point in being in this discussion is to tell everyone else they are wrong and you are right......cuz you said so of course.

originally posted by: Seek_Truth
zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 2m
Can't make this up: White House on lockdown

WTF

Unattended Package

Zerohedge

They literally freak over nothing these days.

Prolly nothing.

The 'scardy cat' syndrome.

a reply to: rustyclutch
Second poster on this thread to debase the discussion by using personal attacks when they can't come up with a valid counter argument.

a reply to: Wookiep

Yeah it does seem like quite an odd path to take. Albeit the quickest (possibly) why would this route be deemed safe considering the amount of activity going on here.

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: hillbilly4rent
Confirmed on fox a SAM did take it down, so now who is to blame.

if it's from Fox, then we all know that Obama did it

If it was from any other MSM then all would know Bush did it.

originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica

originally posted by: maddy21

Check this out , Kiev traffic controllers deliberately lead the aircraft into the combat zone . There is obviously something suspicious here

Just adding more info to what you posted.

There also appears to have been two Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jets tailing MH17 up until the 'incident'.

radar on vine


The next bit of info is from a Spanish employee who works at ATC (Air Traffic Control) Borispol Kiev:

*Please be patient & read through his comments -- could prove to be valuable in the future*

The air space closes, for fear of more demolitions

The air space closes

Jet fighters flew near the MH17 up to 3 minutes before it disappeared from the radar, just 3 minutes

Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a a Timoshenko move

Military men confirm that it was ukraine, but it follows without knowing wherefrom the order came

The Secretary of the Interior if there knew that, the fighters were doing in the zone, the Defense Secretary not.

Here the military controls handle and admit that military men to other orders, could be, but not, the pro-Russian

In the radars it is quite quiet, for the incredulous ones, knocked down for kiev, here we know it and military air control also

Plane B777 was flying escorted by 2 ukraine fighters until moments before it disappeared from radar

right after the flight disappeared from radar the kiev military authority informed us of the crash...

7 minutes in, they claimed the plane was shot down and then foreign personnel who are still here took over the tower

All recorded on radar, for unbelievers, shot down by #Kiev, here we know it & military air traffic control knows it too

twitter

*I translated most of it from spanish to english. -- most recent comments start from top and works downward*

Basically, the ATC knows that Ukraine military shot down plane but. . . no one knows who gave the order! The other part is that 'foreign' personnel took over tower & are still there.


Figured I would post this to add info to thread

This looks to be the most plausible explanation.

originally posted by: hillbilly4rent
Confirmed on fox a SAM did take it down, so now who is to blame.

I know!

I know !

Them 'evil' Israel's and Mossad did it to cover their 'invasion' today !

a reply to: hillbilly4rent
And if it's from any of them we all know it's a load of fabricated B.S that played best with the test audience.

Anybody else getting the 'hashbotapp.com' borders to the ATS page.

It has appeared on my screen while viewing this thread.

Am I infected?

originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: AstralTrespass
Dutch news just showed a tapped phone call released by Ukranian intelligence that has rebel leaders admitting they downed the plane by accident, if I understood correctly.

That seems pretty quick to release such a thing.

That's funny, cause in the lifenews video I posted earlier, they show a lot of Dutch passports (mint condition). They even open some and show their holders.

Not sure what your point is. What is funny, the fact that they are already showing the passports or that they were in mint condition?

a reply to: neo96

Quotations aren't necessary. They are evil. And they are invading, today...

a reply to: tranquilone666

So what are you trying to say because at the moment it makes no sense.
Are you saying that MH17 was actually MH370 & that MH370 flew out from Schipol and not MH17?
If that's the case where is MH17 and how on earth did they manage to get MH370 from wherever they were hiding it to Schipol airport?

originally posted by: tranquilone666
a reply to: hillbilly4rent
And if it's from any of them we all know it's a load of fabricated B.S that played best with the test audience.

Roger that.

This is terrible.

Thoughts and condolences, to all the friends and families who lost loved ones on this flight.

There are lots of different theories, stories, and such coming to light about this, and it's rather confusing. And scary.

CdT

a reply to: hillbilly4rent

It's sad that we cannot even read a thread on an airline tragedy without the US Left vs Right BS being thrown in the mix.

a reply to: LrdRedhawk

Don't know why, put I have the impression Putin played again chess! Why suddenly he flies over Ukraine?
Let's fantasy for a moment.

I am Putin and I know that the regime in Ukraine and the US hate me and they provoke me by bombing on Russian territory.
But I don't react. Instead I plan a trip with my plane and make sure that the information of my flight plan will become available to Ukraine secret service.

The rest is history.

40 Minutes difference gives me the safety to know if the Ukraine military has shot the wrong machine and I can change my flight route if necessary.

a reply to: AstralTrespass

You should also read what post I was answering to.. You know to have the whole picture

Something here on LiveLeak, but I don't read Russian...

Russian general was tweeting about successfull hit on Ukrainian transport ship

but it turned out to be passenger airplane from malaysia

*&^%up of the year?

Read more at www.liveleak.com...