Four kids, two adults shot dead near Houston

a reply to: cavtrooper7
NAILED IT IN THE BULLS EYE AT 1200 YARDS.

a reply to: spirited75

Eliminating data sets in order to come up with a conclusion that fits your narrative is bad science.

It's like saying that knives kill more than rifles, eliminating shotguns, and pistols skews the data set

It's dishonest.

a reply to: HauntWok

Don't change the subject it IS important. WHAT IS YOUR situation?
It does take one to know one and the Rx give you brain bombs for that S##T if you aren't careful.
"One day you 're playing scrabble with your daughter then BOOM you just crushed her skull with a toaster" type situation.
Better figure it out,socialize more.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

???

What

Damn you ok?

a reply to: HauntWok

Yeah ,I used it for war only.

a reply to: HauntWok

no, what they did was demonstrate that four cities make the whole country look bad...the united states is not four cities.

the statement shows that by and large, the problem is not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is...

originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: Daedalus

There is always a solution, there is always something we can do better.

Other countries don't have the amount of firearm violence we have. What ate they doing right?

Never try to teach a pig to dance for you will only frustrate yourself and aggravate the pig, and you are not the jackass whisperer!

a reply to: Daedalus

No, it's just dishonest. Those four cities whether you like it or not are part of the united states.

This shows the desperation the gun crowd has in this argument. Why they are so desperate to shut down all discussion.

The other extremely worrying aspect is the plan the gun crowd has to remove constitutionally elected people from our government. We the people would be forever disenfranchised our right to choose our own representatives. It would be a puppet democracy, as we the people would be robbed at gunpoint the freedom of a free election. Any candidate who said they were against the gun caliphate would be forcibly removed from the election process, only those that pledged loyalty to the gun caliphate would be allowed to be voted for.

originally posted by: HauntWok
The other extremely worrying aspect is the plan the gun crowd has to remove constitutionally elected people from our government. We the people would be forever disenfranchised our right to choose our own representatives. It would be a puppet democracy, as we the people would be robbed at gunpoint the freedom of a free election. Any candidate who said they were against the gun caliphate would be forcibly removed from the election process, only those that pledged loyalty to the gun caliphate would be allowed to be voted for.

Huh? Are you pissing about your candidates losing an election? Run better candidates.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

We the people wouldn't be allowed to. The gun caliphate would forcibly remove any gun control candidate.

That is of course if we were allowed to vote at all. Most likely a fascist regime would be implemented with the people completely taken out of the election process.

originally posted by: HauntWok
We the people wouldn't be allowed to. The gun caliphate would forcibly remove any gun control candidate.

What are you talking about? Who has been forcibly removed from office by anyone?

That is of course if we were allowed to vote at all. Most likely a fascist regime would be implemented with the people completely taken out of the election process.

Are you out of your gourd? What kind of doom porn nonsense are you interjecting into this thread?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I am of course talking about Daedalus' plan to forcibly remove constitutionally elected persons in our government. Thus destroying the constitution this nation is founded on.

originally posted by: HauntWok
I am of course talking about Daedalus' plan to forcibly remove constitutionally elected persons in our government. Thus destroying the constitution this nation is founded on.

I just reread his posts in this thread and I did not see anything remotely advocating the forcible removal of anyone. Maybe you can post the quote unless this is more of your fevered and off topic hyperbole.

From this post

the Federal Government is NOT the United States...the states and territories, and "We, the people" are....if the government engages in practices, that are counter to the freedom, security, and prosperity of the people, and/or knowingly engages in illegalities that are harmful to the freedom, security, and prosperity of the people, the people have the right to rise, and say "no more"...and they also have the right to remove said harmful elements by force, if necessary.

Saying it's the right of the gun caliphate to remove constitutionally elected people of this nation by force if they deem them "harmful" ie: don't tow the line of the gun caliphate.

And we are supposed to trust that the government that they choose would fairly represent the people?

originally posted by: HauntWok
Saying it's the right of the gun caliphate to remove constitutionally elected people of this nation by force if they deem them "dangerous" ie: don't tow the line of the gun caliphate.

No, he is arguing exactly what the Framers of the Constitution decreed; that the people can and should depose a tyrannical government. Do you disagree with the likes of Jefferson, Henry, Mason and Monroe on this subject?

And we are supposed to trust that the government that they choose would fairly represent the people?

Again, if you do not like the candidates run better ones. I do not see anyone here who is a Second Amendment supporter asking for anything that is not already in the Constitution. Feel free to point out quotes to the contrary.

And stop with your silly hyperbole, it makes you sound hysterical.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

So, after the gun caliphate forcibly removes constitutionally elected members of our government that they deem "harmful" why do you think that they would allow free elections that might put those same "harmful" people back in office?

At that point, they already destroyed the democratic process and removed the voice of the people. And you think they would stop there?

Instead of just installing a fascist regime of gun caliphate loyalists to dictate to the people the agenda they will have already forced on the populous.

a reply to: HauntWok

You have officially moved from gun obsession to just plane crazy

I dont even know where to start , though its doubtful u will reply anyways since yiu ignore the truth likethe plague

But geez man read a book about our founders or the history of the constitution or why we were giving t he right to the rule ourselves s as we see fit

Even if that isnt a democratic government

U have so much yet to ignore

a reply to: Another_Nut

Not a whole lot of life, liberty, and pursuits of happiness that goes on in a nation that does not allow the free elections of the people that the citizens want.

And here we are, the crux if the problem with the pro gun crowd. Its not about the freedom to be armed, its about the power to take away the freedoms of the people of this nation at the end of a gun.

It's about the dismantling of all liberty, disposing of a government by the people, and installing a regime of fascism and a rule not of the will of the people, but the rule of might and force.

a reply to: HauntWok
So now you are going to lecture me on honesty.

You know more about guns magazines and clips than honesty.

I took as many if not more college classes in research
methods and statistics than you have.

It is completely acceptable to eliminate data from the far
end of the bell curve and address and deal with the data
that is less than two standard deviations from the norm.

originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: Daedalus

No, it's just dishonest. Those four cities whether you like it or not are part of the united states.

This shows the desperation the gun crowd has in this argument. Why they are so desperate to shut down all discussion.

The other extremely worrying aspect is the plan the gun crowd has to remove constitutionally elected people from our government. We the people would be forever disenfranchised our right to choose our own representatives. It would be a puppet democracy, as we the people would be robbed at gunpoint the freedom of a free election. Any candidate who said they were against the gun caliphate would be forcibly removed from the election process, only those that pledged loyalty to the gun caliphate would be allowed to be voted for.

just like what legally happened in Colorado's recall
elections of officials who were dictating more gun laws,
so the people removed them from office.

give it up your side LOST.