Chilean Government Agency Releases UFO Images

originally posted by: canucks555
a reply to: chrismarco

Well let me help you, since I believe you.:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This particular sighting, pics, story, and source, is the best thing that's come across our collective ATS desk in more than a year.

If you want to believe, then start with this thread.

Now that is just horribly cruel.

Firstly to the poor original poster of that thread. And secondly to me for having clicked in anxious anticipation.

Bravo.

And another thing: I don't think these "analysts" were officials at all. They seem to be members of some Chilean UFO group.

Edit: at least one of them is. Marcelo Moya is a member of AION (Agrupación de Investigaciones Ovniológicas de Chile; the Chilean UFO Research Association), and did some of the analysis.

This is hardly unbiased military research.

originally posted by: Rob48
And another thing: I don't think these "analysts" were officials at all. They seem to be members of some Chilean UFO group.

Edit: at least one of them is. Marcelo Moya is a member of AION (Agrupación de Investigaciones Ovniológicas de Chile; the Chilean UFO Research Association), and did some of the analysis.

This is hardly unbiased military research.

because the military is unbiased?
No matter who gets to analyse there will always be someone sceptic to the whole thing.
What makes the AION worse than other associations? do they have to go through some european/US association in order to be credible? I know most people have a hunch on how the military in general will react to a real ET vessel.

Hmmm chile. Antartic is not that far, so admiral byrd comes o mind.

Excellent thread, this is ATS at its best in my opinion and why I fell in love with the site all those years ago...

I've been asked to share my views on this so here goes:

What I see is an image with some obvious and very assumptive text written around the subject. What I don't see (but would love to), unless I missed it, is any providence, exif data, or any way to get the RAW image file which is the only data we can do a genuine in depth analysis of the picture with (assuming this is a digital image). RAW won't have any compression or additional "noise" in it, it will be exactly and only what the CCD recorded.

I agree t's a great image, the best I've seen in a while, it has a great story behind it too, but, if I am being asked to choose between an alien controlled spaceship and a photographic anomaly I'd like all the data to rule out the photographic anomaly first.

If anyone can point me in the right direction toward the names of those who might provide the RAW data, email contact info, phone numbers, etc... I'd be happy to pursue getting what we need to do a proper ATS evaluation of this image.

originally posted by: Rob48

Good work there Rob. I though that one was the flash alright, not that I had any idea about what kind of camera since I didn't look, but I had seen the trace of a double image in the picture, an almost sure sign of a picture taken through glass, most likely double-glazing, rather than some lensing effect.

originally posted by: canucks555

originally posted by: smurfy
Two initial pictures with identical spotting centre-left, so either a dirty camera lens or taken through a dusty glass with camera at close range. I think Dr Maccabee has it about right.

What do the dirty smudge marks have to do with the object in discussion exactly? (which is bright white) I have an older camera that sports a smudge mark and took some pics of deer on the golf course the other day. Does that mean that the deer were artifacts? Maybe I'm not reading your post right.

No, what it means is that you can't rule out some intermediate media effect between the camera and a subject, like glass, or double-glazing.
In any case, there needs to be more information given when there could be, but whoever took the picture isn't talking. That's why I said the Dr got it about right, he's been at it for as long as I can remember, and likely had his own fair share of sickeners.

a reply to: Springer

Hi Mark,

Thanks for weighing in here. Rob48 back on the 2nd page found this YT vid which appears to show the raw data for the images. Unfortunately it's not the best quality vid but it does show information that I think you may be looking for.



And to Rob48 and Gortex, I appreciate your assessment on this.........as always, let the facts and truth manifest itself.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Check camera used CHEAP point & shoot
Check exif data appears to be removed

Pictures as much use as a chocolate teapot CHECK!

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Hmmm chile. Antartic is not that far, so admiral byrd comes o mind.

???

Antarctic? It's only 21 degrees south of the equator.

About as far from the Antarctic as Cancun or Cuba is from the Arctic!

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Cloro

The more I look at this picture the more I'm convinced it is a light bulb and housing.

So here your are trying to debunk CEFAA claim by calling UFO a housing light bulb ?

Did you knew that CEFAA (Committee for the Studies of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena), is located within the Ministerial Department of Civil Aeronautics (DGAC), the equivalent of our FAA, under the jurisdiction of the Chilean Air Force. ?

And suggesting Chilean government agency lying ?

originally posted by: awakehuman

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Cloro

The more I look at this picture the more I'm convinced it is a light bulb and housing.

So here your are trying to debunk CEFAA claim by calling UFO a housing light bulb ?

Did you knew that CEFAA (Committee for the Studies of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena), is located within the Ministerial Department of Civil Aeronautics (DGAC), the equivalent of our FAA, under the jurisdiction of the Chilean Air Force. ?

But as I have pointed out, the people they are using to analyse images are just amateur UFOlogists.

And CEFAA doesn't have a blinding track record, does it, seeing as on more than one occasion it thought insects were UFOs!

blog.ufo-blog.com...

If it can be fooled by bugs, why not lightbulbs?

originally posted by: Springer
Excellent thread, this is ATS at its best in my opinion and why I fell in love with the site all those years ago...

I've been asked to share my views on this so here goes:

What I see is an image with some obvious and very assumptive text written around the subject. What I don't see (but would love to), unless I missed it, is any providence, exif data, or any way to get the RAW image file which is the only data we can do a genuine in depth analysis of the picture with (assuming this is a digital image). RAW won't have any compression or additional "noise" in it, it will be exactly and only what the CCD recorded.

I agree t's a great image, the best I've seen in a while, it has a great story behind it too, but, if I am being asked to choose between an alien controlled spaceship and a photographic anomaly I'd like all the data to rule out the photographic anomaly first.

If anyone can point me in the right direction toward the names of those who might provide the RAW data, email contact info, phone numbers, etc... I'd be happy to pursue getting what we need to do a proper ATS evaluation of this image.

May be this will help some exif data from the first pic





Taken from the youtube video.

Now lets look at some of the camera details it's an 8 mp point & shoot with a TINY sensor focal length of the camera is quoted as 6.3 to 18.9 mm so it has a 3 times optical zoom now the shot was taken as you all can see at 6mm focal length why not at 18mm that would have made the object 3 times bigger.

Now was it a case of simply taking some snap shots then seeing an anomaly in the picture then claiming ufo

a reply to: awakehuman

So here your are trying to debunk CEFAA claim by calling UFO a housing light bulb ?

No I'm giving my opinion on the case provided , in my opinion the UFO is a reflected light.

Did you knew that CEFAA (Committee for the Studies of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena), is located within the Ministerial Department of Civil Aeronautics (DGAC), the equivalent of our FAA, under the jurisdiction of the Chilean Air Force. ?

They also have a staff of 3 and I guess limited resources , I have no doubt they do the best with what they've got but as Rob48 says they don't have a very good track record , I also find it curious they are headed up by a former General

And suggesting Chilean government agency lying ?

What makes their Government agency any different to mine of course they lie , when the words Government and agency are used together I expect half truths and lies .... don't you ?

originally posted by: CyberSonic
Mods, this thread needs flags to ensure ATS exposure.
People always bitching about crap hoax fake stuff and finally something decent and "crickets"

Lol still mourning defeat are you?

Right, I'm trying to track down exactly where these pictures were taken. This one shows a recognisable skyline:



Here is a picture on Panoramio showing the same mountain range, captioned as "Aucanquilcha (L) and Miño (R)".




The prominent cone-shaped volcano at the right is called Miño.

That is to the southeast of the Collahuasi mine:


Here I have combined the two images into a panorama, showing the skyline. The two shots together must have been taken facing slightly south of east:

Now the tricky part - scouring the aerial imagery of the mine to try and match up the foreground features! I think those two buildings at the right might be temporary shipping container huts or something, so they may not be there on Google Maps.

If anyone wants to help, here are the co-ordinates of the mine: click here.

a reply to: canucks555

It was ripped apart, I really thought it was a good sighting..I no longer have the picture or a secondary shot because my computer ended up crashing long ago....thanks for reminding me...

originally posted by: Flux8
Heh heh, nah. It is a weather balloon (sans weather), it is swamp gas (sans swamp), and it's also ball plasma (sans the ball). There's the decoder ring for ya. Anything else requires an NDA...

"I didn't notice it when I took the picture." = BIRD

These Chilean UFOs get everywhere!

originally posted by: eloheim

originally posted by: canucks555
a reply to: chrismarco

Well let me help you, since I believe you.:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This particular sighting, pics, story, and source, is the best thing that's come across our collective ATS desk in more than a year.

If you want to believe, then start with this thread.

Now that is just horribly cruel.

Firstly to the poor original poster of that thread. And secondly to me for having clicked in anxious anticipation.

Bravo.

Heya sorry you may have misinterpreted my badly worded post there.
The link I posted is not the best thing that's come across our collective ATS desk it's just a confirmation that the poster I was addressing is interested in the subject.

This thread was what I was referring to. Guess it was the beer typing hah,

-Also I believe that the more this story is shared around the world the better the chances that the witnesses will come out of the wood work. I'll bet they had no idea that this would be making the news, let's wait and see