Chilean Government Agency Releases UFO Images

a reply to: Sublimecraft

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originally posted by: Aedaeum
I'm surprised I don't see more naysayers on this thread.... Could that be evidence of its legitimacy?
Where are all the photo geeks claiming bird, bugs, lens flare? Very seemingly legit photos here. I hope this thread gets more attention.
S&F

Agreed,
But remember, Just because an item is declared to be a legitimate UFO does not mean it is of extraterrestrial origin, all it means is that it is Unidentified at present.

originally posted by: necrodomist
We must be very skeptical of things ANY government tells us. They may simply just be testing people's reactions to prepare for fake disclosure, or even a fake event that could be used to further take our rights (to put it lightly).

It would be nice if the witnesses would come forward and tell their stories and possibly clear up some of the questions: direction of travel, length of sighting and were they shooting through glass or outside.

Two initial pictures with identical spotting centre-left, so either a dirty camera lens or taken through a dusty glass with camera at close range. I think Dr Maccabee has it about right.

originally posted by: smurfy
Two initial pictures with identical spotting centre-left, so either a dirty camera lens or taken through a dusty glass with camera at close range. I think Dr Maccabee has it about right.

What do the dirty smudge marks have to do with the object in discussion exactly? (which is bright white) I have an older camera that sports a smudge mark and took some pics of deer on the golf course the other day. Does that mean that the deer were artifacts? Maybe I'm not reading your post right.

Seriously....people are getting excited about this? So because it's from the Chilean Government it's credible? We have had plenty of credible people talk openly about this topic. I don't think this picture at all does anything for the cause...if anything it can be debunked on multiple levels...

If the Chilean Government wants to say openly that they no of ufo's than that's a different story...open admission that other countries have had access to alien tech would be worthy of conversation or that the government admits that we have regular contact or have had contact...

a reply to: chrismarco

No worries, some people wouldn't know a credible UFO sighting if it literally bit them in the ass.

a reply to: canucks555

I want to believe.....

a reply to: chrismarco

Well let me help you, since I believe you.:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This particular sighting, pics, story, and source, is the best thing that's come across our collective ATS desk in more than a year.

If you want to believe, then start with this thread.

Hey guys, remember to do what this video says:
www.youtube.com...

Reading all the channelings and why they've failed to appear, the general consensus is that there are simply not enough people wanting them to appear or our (collective) consciousness is not strong enough(they're the same thing. Not enough people means that the collective consciousness of wanting them to appear is too weak). As I look at the views of the above video since I last posted, I can see why, people just simply aren't motivated or even care about it enough. Yes, I still remember Blossom Goodchild, however, I don't believe that it was a hoax, because something did happen to me that day, and I'm sure people have heard about 11:11(and by now, to me, the ratio of 11:11
to other numbers is probably at least 40:3.

I believe that event and the New Agers' most interesting thoughts were the reason that this site first became popular(remember that everything does not happen literally). I also think this site is the single biggest reason why the U.S government has become less warlike(no one else would have admitted that 9/11 was an inside job).
And I think there's a reason Hidden_Hand, and several other "channeling guys" like the guy who explained that dimensions can be likened to radio frequencies and that knowledge makes reality, which I find to be very accurate, visited this site.

Anyway, I will take this opportunity to explain how prayers or wishes work(and to motivate more people to do the above). For now, I will not go into too much details, lest people abuse it, and it would pretty much defeat the purpose of life, because people would just be praying for everything, instead of working for things themselves.

Remember that lady's story about praying for help? And then she got an unexpected check for some kind of refund a few months later? Something similar happened to me. But first, I will tell you what you can't pray for, you cannot pray for $500 to appear in front of you. It violates the physical laws of this universe, and your consciousness is not strong enough to do that. You cannot pray for your sports team to win. The reason is that it would pretty much defeat the purpose of sports, and that there are other fans wanting their team to win also. Your desire or prayers and the other teams' fans desire cancel, so to speak.

You see, every thought that you have will generate a force. If it runs counter to someone else's, then the event will be much less likely to happen. If it matches, then the chances increase. If there are enough people thinking the same thoughts or general idea, then all of these forces will combine to become reality or an "event." Of course, it would take millions of people, but hey, that's why you've gotta try, right?

So what exactly can you pray for? Well, one thing you have to remember is that EVERYTHING you do will have an effect on someone else. In other words, every action must have an opposite but equal reaction. Let's say that you want to pray for a high paying job, which seems like a fair request. However, in order to give you that job, someone else must NOT be getting that job, in that case, the Universe/God/UFOs will look at the two situations. If they see that your situation is worse, then they will give it to you. If not, then they will give it to the default person, i.e the person that would be getting that job, if you hadn't prayed for it.

It should be noted that praying doesn't automatically override your actions, like if the other guy has a PHD, and you don't, then he will get the job. In fact, the order in which you can influence reality, from weakest to strongest, is:
thoughts, words, actions. Praying will work only if both of you have a PHD, and your situation is worse.

In general, it's difficult to pray for something personal, because very likely, you will be in conflict with someone's desire also. You have to remember that the universe has to take EVERYONE's free will into consideration.

Now let's say you want to pray to end global warming, or the above, then they can make it happen, or make the events on Earth occur so that someone can figure out a solution, etc. If you try to do the above, then yes, it can definitely be granted, because it does not appear to be in conflict with anyone's desire. If for some reasons, a certain faction does not want them to appear, then the larger force will still win.

Always interesting to me how the usual suspects always put in a lot of hard "work" to disprove any legitimacy of evidence that, God forbid, there is intelligent life out there in the vast, vast universe.

I think it's safe to say the Chilean government also in bed with the western governments cover up of UFO activity are NOT about to disclose anything other than piss poor evidence which does more damage to the cause than a CGI fake over the White House,

Really Chilean government ?

*SIGH*

originally posted by: RamsOnTop
Always interesting to me how the usual suspects always put in a lot of hard "work" to disprove any legitimacy of evidence that, God forbid, there is intelligent life out there in the vast, vast universe.

I'm with you on that, Im a long time believer btw, but these pictures reveal absolutely nothing, IMO these pictures will make skeptics laugh and thing well if this is all the governments have then lol

We've seen a lot better from average joes that don't get the time of day they deserve, it's a diversion, IMO

It's a trap...

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Get an axe

After investigating the incident and the photos, the CEFAA says what is on the photographs appears to be a real, 3-dimensional moving object in the sky (not a cloud or a reflection of some kind hitting the camera lens) and the investigation has ruled out an airplane, helicopter, balloon or other such natural man made device as being the object that was seen.

www.skyvalleychronicle.com...

Re: That's funny, the only things I've seen here by "average Joes" are pics or rocks, no wait, Hampsters on Mars and night time blobs. (sorry no offense to anyone)
-Have you read the story? or just looked at the pics and posted?

Oh wait, I see what might be going on here...

Because some credible news sites, aka "MSM" sites are on this story there is a certain crowd that has to put their blinders on.
You know, the people who call others "Sheeple" to make themselves appear both different and smarter than the rest of us.

-I guess if it's not from Rense.com and doesn't blame the Jews then it's b.s, right?

originally posted by: RamsOnTop
Always interesting to me how the usual suspects always put in a lot of hard "work" to disprove any legitimacy of evidence that, God forbid, there is intelligent life out there in the vast, vast universe.

Total bull. I'm pretty interested in space. You might be able to tell from my avatar.

I truly believe that there is intelligent life out there in the vast, vast universe. Simple mathematics makes it overwhelmingly likely.

Why does that mean I have to believe every cruddy photo of a strange reflection is proof aliens have visited Earth?

The same maths makes it just as likely that they have never been here. Why would they? The clue is in the "vast, vast universe" bit.

I'm really fed up of being accused of being small-minded when I point out that a photo doesn't show ET zooming by.

The people who are small-minded are the ones who cannot comprehend how staggering vast the universe is and how staggeringly NOT AT ALL SPECIAL out little corner of it is.

I believe in aliens. I do not believe in crap "UFO" pics.

Rant over.

Oh and you can have this debunking free of charge:

originally posted by: canucks555
I did a quick search found what could be the same ...whatever it is, Chile 2009:

EXIF data from original image:

File type: JPEG; File size: 259.3 KB; Date created: 12/06/2008 11:15; Last modified: 12/30/2008 00:41: Make: FUJIFILM (www.fujifilm.es...); Camera: FinePix Z10fd; Software: Picasa 3.0: Focal length: 6.3 mm Actual; Aperture: F8; Exposure time: 1/300" Flash: Flash fired, compulsory flash mode, red-eye reduction mode.

Here is a picture of the FinePix Z10fd camera:


Does the shape of the flash look familiar, Mulder?

cruddy photo of a strange reflection

the pics are deemed by people that are better at analyzing photos than you to not be reflections.

Try again...

originally posted by: canucks555
cruddy photo of a strange reflection

the pics are deemed by people that are better at analyzing photos than you to not be reflections.

Try again...

I was referring to the photo directly above. The cruddy reflection of a camera flash.

Try again.

a reply to: Rob48

That's an example on the net, not the actual pic that this thread revolves around.

But I'm sure you can debunk anything when you're in the mood (or try your best to)
lol

a reply to: canucks555
No, like I said I am not sure about these ones. They look like reflections to me (not of a flash) and I haven't seen any details of this supposed expert analysis that says they are not.

The flash one does the rounds on the net though, being shared by credulous people. And hell, just look at the comments on here:

That's a beauty! I like it, I like it!

Wow that pic is mindblowing.

A beauty? Mindblowing? These people seem happy to believe that a camera flash is an alien craft!

Why do people that try to do some thought and analysis get called small-minded while the ones who go no deeper than "looks weird, must be aliens" are so open-minded?

It is possible to believe in alien life and yet not believe it has visited Earth. The universe is pretty big and most of it consists of nothing at all.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Thanks for posting.. It made me think about the current situation dealing with the UFO / ET topic.

Does anyone know how many countries now have released their files on UFO's? I was wondering if there might be a "countdown" going via disclosure - IE the timer is based on countries releasing their files as opposed to a specific date. When the "countdown" gets to 0 we get the "oh by the way, back in the 1940's" bit from the government.

I was also thinking about how this is being done in terms of what's released. Going from countries releasing files about UFO until we start getting down to nations who have had direct contact at the top government level.

Anyways, thought I would share since this is a conspiracy site.

Thanks for posting - S&F