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“The sky hasn’t fallen, but we’re a long way from knowing the unintended consequences,” said Andrew Freeman, director of marijuana coordination for Colorado. “This is a huge social and economic question.”
originally posted by: Flesh699
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: wantsome
Useless dopehead propaganda. Dopeheads will say anything to push their agenda so they can say how harmless the drug is. I use to be one of the people that said the same stuff. Having smoked the stuff for years and having known people that smoked it it is far from harmless.
It like Alcohol.
If you use it heavily and regularly it will harm.
I know those that use it irregularly and it doesn't harm them.
It about how you use it not if you use it.
@ you and mostly wantsome. Yeeeeeeea no. It does nothing if used years and years and years. I know this from experience. It may do a little to your lungs but not much else. If you actually had experience like you claim, you wouldn't even post such nonsense. It's highly ironic everyone b**** about a plant that has grown and has the right to grow on our planet, yet we still call ourselves civilized and attempt to ban a plant that has a natural right to be here.... not only that, but I'm fairly certain we're harming ourselves to a much LARGER degree with the crap we shove down our throats that we call 'food.' But no one outlaws that crap and nom nom nom with smiles.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
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Too much of anything isn't good.
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: beezzer
Whether you're right, or wrong in this, it is something that needs thought.
Not to is stupidity writ large.
I didn't create this term or issue all by myself. It's something commonly ignored. What's a few thousand children's deaths or disabilities?
Taxes are coming in, people are feeling mild, and crime is dropping!
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
My issue has always been the same, someone driving down the frwy. big smile, steering wheel in one hand and a joint in the other, and everyone pulling along side wondering wtf. And I only say this because people can't be responsible, its your body I could care less, but when it affects me then no thats not fair. For me its the same with anything like that alcohol included.
originally posted by: KyoZero
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
My issue has always been the same, someone driving down the frwy. big smile, steering wheel in one hand and a joint in the other, and everyone pulling along side wondering wtf. And I only say this because people can't be responsible, its your body I could care less, but when it affects me then no thats not fair. For me its the same with anything like that alcohol included.
Well congratulations. I just hit the ATS Trifecta.
Three responses to me, and every one of them kind, responsible and coherent...rare these days...myself included
I chose this paragraph because I do absolutely understand your view on this. THIS is where I wish I had an answer but admittedly do not. I have no problem with people consuming but yes when you become a danger to others then you must answer for it. I feel that if someone is high and wrecks, killing another, I have absolutely no problem throwing the book at them
But then, as you are smart enough to probably already be aware, there is one teensy problem with THC that causes problems for both police AND consumers
Let's say this guy gets high and wrecks his car and kills a passenger or pedestrian or whatever. Now, if he were drunk, a simple BAL or breathalyzer will tell us right away that this guy was DUI and should therefore be charged.
The problem is, THC stays in the system so I wonder, how can the police or agencies tell if this guy who wrecked just puffed or did it two days ago and wrecked for unrelated reasons? So Yeah I see that problem and as for your last paragraph, I agree...that becomes an issue
apparently there are foods that trigger the test to make it appear you smoke pot, one was poppy seeds I think.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: tothetenthpower
Yet the moral fabric of America remains un-tainted.
Untainted eh?
Not so fast.
B erkeley Requires Marijuana Dispensaries To Provide Free Weed For ***Low-Income Patients***
As a sign of things to come.
For those that ***want to do this thing***.
...
So they rob from the rich, and give to the less' fortunate' for everyone gets to have a ***good time***.
....
The ***moral decline*** of America is going ahead FULL STEAM.
As a sign of things to come.
And IT IS coming.
originally posted by: pr0ph3t
a reply to: ZeroReady
same way kids know not to drink vodka even though it looks like water. if kids are going round eating and drinking whatever they see without even asking then its a problem with the parenting
originally posted by: Jakal26
a reply to: MarlinGrace
apparently there are foods that trigger the test to make it appear you smoke pot, one was poppy seeds I think.
Poppy seeds will sometimes cause a false positive for opiates.
Hair samples can go back even further than 6 months...depending on the drug. With cannabis it can be years, not just months. There are hair sample tests that can even pinpoint with a high degree of accuracy, the amount of time it has been since one used a certain substance. I am not sure how this would work with cannabis, but I know with opiates and the like, they can determine levels of the drug within the body and from that get a date (not an exact date but fairly close)....
UA's (urine analysis) are the most likely to garner false positives. They are not reliable and are easily side-stepped by those that do hard drugs (not cannabis) while the cannabis users are the ones that suffer (testing at work, etc) because THC lingers in the fatty tissue of the body. THC attaches to that fatty tissue and, depending on usage, can linger in the body for a few months (heavy users of larger size)...
Just thought I'd throw that in there.....
There seems to be a lot of misinformation in regards to drug testing....
On topic.....I am an advocate of legalized cannabis. Period. I need not say any more (my views on this are biased)
There is ton of therapeutic and medicinal value in cannabis, value that is only now being seen by the masses (cover-ups, lies, fear campaigns, etc etc...have stifled, for years, a substance that could benefit many in SO many ways).....it is only a matter of time before it is as normalized as alcohol, a drug that is FAR more dangerous than cannabis. A drug that will NOT go away and one that I know first-hand destroys lives, families, communities, and thus...in many ways, societies.
I always seen the hypocrisy in the illegality of cannabis and the legal status of alcohol....from a very young age.
It might have been the one thing that set me off on a journey to find the truth outside of established channels. Then I happened upon the internet (I live in what was, at that time, a fairly isolated area full of bible belt type "christians") and realized that many others felt the same way and saw the same things....At that moment I realized I had always been lied to. I have spent the last decade and a half trying to dig deeper into the truths hidden from us all....
I have cannabis to thank, come to think of it.
originally posted by: centhwevir1979
a reply to: Axial Leader
Another year or three? Are you completely daft, have your faculties left you?
I'm afraid to say that you're so far off the mark that you're almost out of sight. The whole point is to provide free medicine to those who are less well-off. The money saved by replacing fantastically expensive pharmaceuticals with cannabis alone would be staggering. Cannabis is an antifungal, antibacterial, analgesic, anoretic, anti-diabetic, antidepressant, anti-emetic, anti-epileptic, anti-inflammatory, anti-insomnia, anti-ischemetic, anti-oxidant, anti-proliferative, antipsioratic, antipsychotic, antispasmodic, anxiolytic, appetite stimulant, bone stimulant, bronchodilatory, anti gastroesophageal reflux, immunostimulant, immunosuppressive, intestinal anti-prokinetic, neuroprotectant, vasorelaxant, and an antipyretic. Go ahead and name just one man-made chemically synthesised alternative that can boast all of these properties, with the same safety record as cannabis, and moreover, that can be produced by anyone for mere pennies. You seem to be under the impression that medicinal cannabis users 'want' to have to medicate, and that they are having a 'good time'. I speak to medicinal cannabis users daily, suffering from illnesses' ranging from MS and chron's disease through to various types of cancers, and if I've learn't one thing in all my years of studying cannabis and it's medicinal actions (phytocannabinoid pharmacodynamics), it's that these folk would rather not have to medicate at all. Pharmaceutical drugs kill more people each year than all of illicit drug use combined while cannabis has never directly killed a single soul, and the masses are fast waking up to this disturbing fact. You talk about America being in 'moral decline', in what possible way is it immoral to provide one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man, produced for pennies, for free to deserving patients? I see recent events as a step in the right direction, and I fully embrace and welcome these. Cannabis is not new, it has been a part of human kinds pharmacopoeia for millennia, and it is rightfully retaking it's place as a valuable tool in the doctors tool chest.