AZ residents at chemtrail hearing: ‘We’re being sprayed like we’re bugs and it’s really not

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

As a very serious and sincere suggestion, since what people think of you seems to matter enough to write a specific message on here.

If you put forth to effort to talk WITH...and not AT or DOWN to people, I think you'd find your reception and the responses you got would change. In fact, they'd likely change in major ways and in less time than might be believed. It's the approach as much as the message that turns interested listeners into an actively hostile crowd, IMO.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Its easy to identify; it looks like a large black dragonfly.

Sure is. Stay away from tanks when recording. These things HATE tanks, apparently.

originally posted by: kkrattiger
a reply to: totallackey

Chemtrails are presumably being used to "dumb-down the people"...
To those who are certain they're victims of chemtrailing: Is it working?

Nicely veiled attempt to call anyone who thinks something is going on dumb. Many of us are FAR from dumb, I can assure you of this. You might want to rethink who the dumb are.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

Tell me something... Would suing the CIA in 1969 have exposed Majestic and the drug experimentation on innocent people? Would suing the U.S. Government have exposed the horrendous and evil experiementation on human subjects in Central America with venereal disease?

So because these things happened that means chemtrails should be real because the gov't says they aren't?

Now your trying to say it should be okay to sue the car manufacturers because they have created something that creates the same thing during the winter?

Heck maybe we should sue everyone because the human body has it's own chemtrail producer every time someone farts?

In fact I think Rosalind Peterson explains it the best...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

And that is proof that chemtrails should exist, because of something done 60 years ago?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I said talking to people..and not at or down to them...is a successful way to approach controversial topics. I didn't say anything to lead into a long debate into your pet interests. I've got no desire to be debated TO this morning. With, perhaps..but not TO. I simply made an observation. Take it or discard it as you see fit.

Have a good one.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

As a very serious and sincere suggestion, since what people think of you seems to matter enough to write a specific message on here.

Do you think I really care about what anonymous people on the internet think about me, because honestly I don't so where are you going with this.

Btw good job going off topic.

If you put forth to effort to talk WITH...and not AT or DOWN to people, I think you'd find your reception and the responses you got would change. In fact, they'd likely change in major ways and in less time than might be believed. It's the approach as much as the message that turns interested listeners into an actively hostile crowd, IMO.

Honestly your opinion means squat to me, so you just wasted your time with the off topic posts.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

I said talking to people..and not at or down to them...is a successful way to approach controversial topics.

And how many threads on this topic have you actually gotten involved in, because you would understand the tone when you are constantly berated as being a paid shill.

And where did the rules of debunking a subject say I have to be friends with those who instill the name calling in a thread.

In fact if you look at my posting history you will see I am more tolerant to people than most on this subject so before you make assumptions please do your research.

And this will be the last response to your off topic posts about how I reply to those who enjoy name calling when their evidence is not there.

Enjoy the thread.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: ~Lucidity

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

And that is proof that chemtrails should exist, because of something done 60 years ago?

Who said this is proof but you? There is a larger point to this having had happened, been hidden, and been denied.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

Care to share exactly what you are talking about? I live in England and would love to know. Not talking about the Lynmouth flood / cloud seeding story are you? None of which was "secret", it was discussed in the press at the time.

"Sprayed people"? Are you sure you have your facts right? Where? Who? How many? With what?

originally posted by: Rob48

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

Care to share exactly what you are talking about? I live in England and would love to know. Not talking about the Lynmouth flood / cloud seeding story are you?

"Sprayed people"? Are you sure you have your facts right? Where? Who? How many? With what?

Millions were in germ war tests

The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

Not cloud seeding. Nope.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Rob48

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

Care to share exactly what you are talking about? I live in England and would love to know. Not talking about the Lynmouth flood / cloud seeding story are you?

"Sprayed people"? Are you sure you have your facts right? Where? Who? How many? With what?

Millions were in germ war tests

Not cloud seeding. Nope.

And these military experiments have what to do with chemtrails exactly?

Show me just one analysis showing poisonous chemicals being sprayed from aircraft under the guise of contrails. If it's as prevalent as you say that should be easy. But you cannot.

originally posted by: Rob48

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Rob48

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

Care to share exactly what you are talking about? I live in England and would love to know. Not talking about the Lynmouth flood / cloud seeding story are you?

"Sprayed people"? Are you sure you have your facts right? Where? Who? How many? With what?

Millions were in germ war tests

Not cloud seeding. Nope.

And these military experiments have what to do with chemtrails exactly?

Show me just one analysis showing poisonous chemicals being sprayed from aircraft under the guise of contrails. If it's as prevalent as you say that should be easy. But you cannot.

You're kidding me, right?

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Rob48

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Rob48

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They sprayed people in England too. And denied it for over 60 years, I believe.

Care to share exactly what you are talking about? I live in England and would love to know. Not talking about the Lynmouth flood / cloud seeding story are you?

"Sprayed people"? Are you sure you have your facts right? Where? Who? How many? With what?

Millions were in germ war tests

Not cloud seeding. Nope.

And these military experiments have what to do with chemtrails exactly?

Show me just one analysis showing poisonous chemicals being sprayed from aircraft under the guise of contrails. If it's as prevalent as you say that should be easy. But you cannot.

You're kidding me, right?

No I am not. Just one. Go on. Should be easy right, if they are spraying you?

Samples of air before and after a "chemtrail" spray, showing the poisonous chemicals.

Go ahead. I used to work as an analytical chemist, so I know how easy it would be to prove "chemtrails" were real if they were. Absolutely trivial to accomplish. But nobody has.


And while you are at it perhaps you could explain why it is only the "believers" who get sick, while the rest of us, who are breathing the same air, are living longer and healthier lives than ever. Kind of weird isn't it?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Who said this is proof but you? There is a larger point to this having had happened, been hidden, and been denied.

So then what was the reason to post they did that if you weren't trying to imply they are hiding chemtrails?

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Who said this is proof but you? There is a larger point to this having had happened, been hidden, and been denied.

So then what was the reason to post they did that if you weren't trying to imply they are hiding chemtrails?

Because military experiments took place in secret in the past, therefore contrails.

One military secret (which isn't a secret because it was written about in the papers over a decade ago) means that all conspiracy theories, however UTTERLY ABSURD, are true, dontcha know. I read it on the internet.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

You're kidding me, right?

Well, seeing as the chemtrail hoax has been happening almost twenty years now, why is there no evidence other than I just looked up and saw them ever been presented?

And I mean evidence that hasn't been debunked.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The best evidence is apparently "it was clear this morning but later in the day loads of cloud appeared".

"Diurnal heating" apparently means nothing to these people.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

No...he is not kidding you, he has pulled out the gerbil wheel and is attempting to lure you onto it.

Unfortunately any healthy debate, discussion or discovery concerning weather modification, Geo-engineering, the weaponization of space, or the more fringe but entirely possible population control theories of why we are being sprayed rarely happens on ATS. Personally I am of the opinion that the Geo-engineering that has now been uncovered has many layers. Even if one of those agendas is not population control, by default, they get population control.

I curtailed my involvement in these threads long ago as I was so weary of seeing the thinly veiled insults toward members that know something not so healthy is happening in our skies.

Keep up the good fight.