Climate Change Already Impacting ‘All Continents’ According To New International Report

This argument will be settled when humans are eating Soylent Green.

The last ice age was @ 20,000 years ago.

Apparently the planet warmed up from being rather chilly.

Now I may be wrong, but I don't remember any cars or factories spewing smog or pollutants into the air then.

So many factors affect the planets climate.

To accuse man of being the sole factor in creating Global-Taxation-Climate-Llama-Rain-Snow-Sunshine-Change-Weather is patently ridiculous.

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And ignoring the scientific evidence that greenhouse gasses are building up in our atmosphere is suicidal.

LDragonFire
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And ignoring the scientific evidence that greenhouse gasses are building up in our atmosphere is suicidal.

So the last ice age didn't exist?

Temperatures, climate, CO2 levels were always stable before the advent of man?

beezzer

LDragonFire
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And ignoring the scientific evidence that greenhouse gasses are building up in our atmosphere is suicidal.

So the last ice age didn't exist?

Temperatures, climate, CO2 levels were always stable before the advent of man?

Are greenhouse gasses building in our atmosphere? As per the op for this thread? Are climate changes happening on the continents according to the op of this thread?

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Ignoring my questions is an answer itself.

beezzer
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Ignoring my questions is an answer itself.

Ignoring the topic is also a answer.

LDragonFire

beezzer
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Ignoring my questions is an answer itself.

Ignoring the topic is also a answer.

I'm putting the whole Global-Frenzy-Climate-Taxation-Change into perspective.


Proponents for man-made Global-Death-Danger-Change can't stand the light of this kind of scrutiny.

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Oh I thought you were adding your opinions as facts.

Again according to scientist all over the world greenhouse gasses are rising in our atmosphere, do you agree or not?

According to scientists all over the word climate change is actively occurring, do you agree or not?

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The increase in CO2 being added to the atmosphere is directly attributable to the burning of fossil fuels.

Says who ?

Sure it's 'all' cause of burning 'fossil fuels', and it has nothing to do with over 7 billion people on this planet breathing air, and exhaling c02, and burping, and passing gas, and flushing crap down the commode.

Um...we know that there were ice ages and that climate has changed dramatically over the time that earth has been in existence. Scientists know this and scientists study this. These same scientists also see that there is an abnormal warming of the earth or ...well the globe as in global warming. They calculate and study and look at ice cores and really everything and they have come to the conclusion that there is a warming of this planet that is being caused by man. Why is this concept so hard to understand?

But the sheep with their heads in the sand shout "what about the last ice age or the Sun's effect on climate or don't you realize that Al Gore isn't a scientist?" And we should back. "The scientists know that and have put that in their calculations and data and research and factored Al Gore out." and the sheep shout "Oh not all the scientists!" and we shout back "all except for 2-5% depending how you calculate it!" You guys aren't listening to reason. It's like trying to explain evolution to Ken Hamm.

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Temperatures, climate, CO2 levels were always stable before the advent of man?

No because a couple of things like super volcanoes spewing vocanic ash in to the air that drops temperatures on a global scale.

Then the weather comes along, and destroys plants, and tree with tornadoes. and hurricanes.

Global temperatures, and greenhouse gases have like the earth been in a constant state of motion.

They can not with any certainty pin on anything except what they want to do.

Which is why global warming is a political argument that it has always been.

They hate business, and they will do anything they can to destroy it.

MOMof3
This argument will be settled when humans are eating Soylent Green.

I have never seen the movie, but I may. The opening seems pertinent though.

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Sure it's 'all' cause of burning 'fossil fuels', and it has nothing to do with over 7 billion people on this planet breathing air, and exhaling c02, and burping, and passing gas, and flushing crap down the commode.

Not a whole lot.
Burping is mostly the result of swallowed air. Not really adding any CO2 to the atmosphere.
Passed gas is a combination of swallowed air and intestinal gases. Not a lot of CO2.
Flushing crap down the toilet doesn't produce a lot of CO2. Hydrogen sulphide, methane and O2.

But see, any CO2 released by people is part of the "natural" carbon cycle. The carbon released by people comes from food, growing more food reaborbs that CO2.

Now, the energy consumed by all those people, that's another matter.

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But see, any CO2 released by people is part of the "natural" carbon cycle. Burning fossil fuels isn't.

Yeah it is because mother nature made them.

Grimpachi

liejunkie01
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A little bit of an update on the amount of CO2 released by volcanoes.

In 1992, it was thought that volcanic degassing released something like 100 million tons of CO2 each year. Around the turn of the millennium, this figure was getting closer to 200. The most recent estimate, releasedthis February, comes from a team led by Mike Burton, of the Italian National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology – and it’s just shy of 600 million tons. It caps a staggering trend: A six-fold increase in just two decades.   

m.livescience.com...

Thank you for the update but I think that was already factored however going from 100 million to 200 million metric tons probably isn't going to move the scale much when we are dealing with numbers like 440 billion metric tons.

Here is an interesting site. It is pretty up to date.

trillionthtonne.org...

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I think you might be confusing your numbers a little.

The link you posted is for cumulative carbon dioxide in the air.

Estimated cumulative emissions from fossil fuel use, cement production and land-use change since industrialization began are

578,724,871,256

Now this is the number since idustrialization began. And exactly when was that you might ask?

The first Industrial Revolution, which began in the 18th century, merged into the Second Industrial Revolution around 1850, when technological and economic progress gained momentum with the development of steam-powered ships, railways, and later in the 19th century with the internal combustion engine and electrical power generation. The period of time covered by the Industrial Revolution varies with different historians. Eric Hobsbawm held that it 'broke out' in Britain in the 1780s and was not fully felt until the 1830s or 1840s,[7] while T. S. Ashton held that it occurred roughly between 1760 and 1830.[8]

www.princeton.edu...
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The article that I produced said that the volcanic CO2 output per year was believed to be 200 million tons a year, but now the output is now believed to be around 600 million tons a year. With new data came new higher numbers. Now take that number and myltiply it by the amount of years since the indutrial revolution began. It is a quite a bit there.

Notice the "per year" in the estimate

I was only pointing out in my original post that the amount of CO2 believed to come from volanoes, the estimates have risen six fold since rhe article you posted earlier in the thread.

Now I know, because of the education I got from ATS , that fossil fuel CO2 can be distinguished from natural CO2, and I realize that we are pumping more than that into the atmosphere. With that being said, the volcanoes are billowing out alot of CO2 at a constant rate. Which they did help to instigate "climate change" in the past.

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Yeah it is because mother nature made them.

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Yes, and mother nature buried them underground where they don't release their CO2 into the atmosphere by combustion.

Then people start extracting that stuff and burning it. That ain't natural.

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With that being said, the volcanoes are billowing out alot of CO2 at a constant rate. Which they did help to instigate "climate change" in the past.

Yes, when there was a great increase in volcanic activity. Otherwise CO2 levels remained at equilibrium.

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Yes, and mother nature buried them underground where they don't release their CO2 into the atmosphere by combustion

Is that your final answer ?

Going once,Going twice, Gone.

And how did they get buried ?

By CLIMATE CHANGE.

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By CLIMATE CHANGE.

Ok. So the climate is changing and may well eventually cause massive die offs which may result in massive amounts of carbon again being sequestered by forests being covered in water. It sure ain't being sequestered now, levels keep rising.

Not sure what point you think you scored there.