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Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Any actual EVIDENCE that this was in order to make more contrails?? Or again are we supposed to take you word for it?
I certainly recall lots of articles in Flight magazine through the 80's and 90's talking about the improvements in fuel efficiency and reduction in NOx and SOX pollutants that new engines achieved - but that wasn't in order to create more contrails AFAIK.
MagnumOpus
Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Any actual EVIDENCE that this was in order to make more contrails?? Or again are we supposed to take you word for it?
I certainly recall lots of articles in Flight magazine through the 80's and 90's talking about the improvements in fuel efficiency and reduction in NOx and SOX pollutants that new engines achieved - but that wasn't in order to create more contrails AFAIK.
Most intelligent people in aircraft engine design would know the improvements also came from high by-pass designs with high compression, and with the stigma of the black smog being connected with global warming, they also needed a lot more white smog to counter the IR absorption into Mie Scattering and more IR reflection.
They wanted an environmental impact statement that didn't connect them to global warming, which would eventually shut them down or limit their numbers. Simple logic.
MagnumOpus
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Most intelligent people in aircraft engine design would know the improvements also came from high by-pass designs with high compression,
and with the stigma of the black smog being connected with global warming,
they also needed a lot more white smog to counter the IR absorption into Mie Scattering and more IR reflection.
They wanted an environmental impact statement that didn't connect them to global warming, which would eventually shut them down or limit their numbers. Simple logic.
Their results also show that 'human influence' on glaciers reaches back to well before industrial temperature increases and the work may help to resolve a longstanding scientific debate over when the "Little Ice Age" actually ended and why the Alps' glaciers retreated decades before global temperatures started increasing again. The Little Ice Age was a cooling period roughly between the 16th and 19th centuries, though scientists do not agree on when it specifically began and ended.
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For this study, they analyzed air pollution data from the coal, steel and rail industries in Europe going back to the late 19th century to help determine when and where pollutants were deposited in the glaciers. Black carbon particles are the strongest absorber of sunlight by weight. When these particles settle on snow, they darken the surface and cause it to melt faster, revealing glacier ice earlier in the year.
MagnumOpus
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Black soot has been a problem even before Jets,
Citations:
waynos
reply to post by MagnumOpus
In a few posts now you have referred to "global warming" as a driving factor in the change of aircraft engines. The term was not used before the late 1980's while the first high bypass engines, of the type that leave contrails, entered service 20 years earlier, so how can this be?
With this point, plus your assertions that chemtrails were left by WW2 bombers as a result of range-enhancing fuels and that contrails are deliberately produced, combined with your inability to decide whether it's the visible contrail or the invisible chemical content of jet exhaust that you are complaining about, as you flip-flop between them, it is becoming increasingly obscure as to what your point is.
"Visible contrails are deliberately produced because jet exhaust contains chemicals" is a facile standpoint.edit on 11-3-2014 by waynos because: (no reason given)
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
One has to wonder why the trails are only visible where it's extremely cold.
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
One has to wonder why the trails are only visible where it's extremely cold.
The worst times for chemtrails around this area was a Summer and it was hot. And warmer, at altitude, also.
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
One has to wonder why the trails are only visible where it's extremely cold.
The worst times for chemtrails around this area was a Summer and it was hot. And warmer, at altitude, also.
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
One has to wonder why the trails are only visible where it's extremely cold.
The worst times for chemtrails around this area was a Summer and it was hot. And warmer, at altitude, also.
It all started out sounding so well thought through and technical but the ignorance is coming thick and fast now
1. Boron is easily contained in Jet Fuels because it is a common additive. Now Jets have chemtrials linked to Boron.
DenyObfuscation
reply to post by MagnumOpus
1. Boron is easily contained in Jet Fuels because it is a common additive. Now Jets have chemtrials linked to Boron.
How much boron? 16 oz of Biobor JF treats 1280 gallons of fuel. That would only be .0097% of the fuel if it were 100% boron.
You think that's enough to cover the sky?
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
One has to wonder why the trails are only visible where it's extremely cold.
The worst times for chemtrails around this area was a Summer and it was hot. And warmer, at altitude, also.