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Mikeultra
That is a fraudulent short form that Loretta Fuddy had fabricated!
Why can't Duncan Sunahara get a copy of Virginia Surahara's original long form birth certificate?
www.dukeupress.edu...
S. Ann Dunham (1942–1995), mother of President Barack Obama and Maya Soetoro-Ng, earned her undergraduate, master’s, and doctoral degrees, all in anthropology, from the University of Hawai‘i at Manoa. Dunham spent years working on rural development, microfinance, and women’s welfare through organizations including USAID, the World Bank, the Ford Foundation, the Indonesian Federation of Labor Unions, and Bank Rakyat Indonesia. Alice G. Dewey, an Indonesianist, is Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at the University of Hawai‘i. Nancy I. Cooper is Adjunct Associate Professor of Anthropology at the University of Hawai‘i. Maya Soetoro-Ng has a doctorate in international comparative education from the University of Hawai‘i and teaches high-school history in Honolulu. Robert W. Hefner is Professor of Anthropology and Associate Director of the Institute on Culture, Religion, and World Affairs at Boston University. He is President of the Association for Asian Studies.
www.eastwestcenter.org...
Ann Dunham Soetoro was awarded East-West Center Graduate Degree Fellowships from 1973 through 1978, for Master’s and Ph.D. studies in the Department of Anthropology at the University of Hawai‘i . Her thesis was based on her intense involvement with rural communities in Java where the challenges of development were particularly evident. Because of her premature death in 1995, Ann’s contributions might have been little recognized were it not for the election of her son as President of the United States. Since that time an edited version of her dissertation has been published by Duke University Press, edited by Alice Dewey and Nancy Cooper, bringing more attention to her remarkable career.
hellobruce
Mikeultra
That is a fraudulent short form that Loretta Fuddy had fabricated!
What expert examined it and declared it a fraud? Or did some random on the internet just claim that?
Why can't Duncan Sunahara get a copy of Virginia Surahara's original long form birth certificate?
Because the Hawaiian DOH is not issuing long form's anymore.
freakjive
reply to post by Mikeultra
Mike...thanks so much for all the quality contributions to this thread. You have been doing some great work.
Mikeultra
151 10641 bears Virginia Surahara's name on it.
How could Barry's fake copy be real? They didn't emboss it!
When the White House Director of Communications Daniel Pfeiffer held up the birth certificate before the Press on April 27, 2011, Vogt says that the seal couldn’t be seen, invoking this bit of the transcript of the Press Gaggle: Q You showed us a photocopy of one. MR. PFEIFFER: No, I showed you – Q Does that have a stamp? MR. PFEIFFER: It has a seal on it. At a distance the embossed seal, which is just indentations on paper, was not visible, but this was to be expected. (I can’t see the seal on my own birth certificate from two feet away unless it’s held at the right angle in the light.) However, when handled the seal was visible and could be felt, by Guthrie. Guthrie also snapped two photographs of the birth certificate and Tweeted them. That evening Guthrie reported the event for NBC News and repeated into the camera that she had “felt the raised seal.” Now here’s where it gets strange. Recall Vogt said “there was no evidence of an embossed Hawaiian Department of Health (DOH) seal.” But then he himself says that he used photo enhancement techniques on both the PDF version from the White House and the Guthrie photo, saying: The PDF copy and Savannah Guthrie’s copy after the enhanced color adjustment had been made so the “seal” becomes visible on both.
The East West Center is a den of communists!
hellobruce
Mikeultra
151 10641 bears Virginia Surahara's name on it.
No it does not, just a birther lie. You think some evidence would be shown of this in one of the over 200 court cases birthers have lost so far.... (they have won zero)
How could Barry's fake copy be real? They didn't emboss it!
Yes they did.... but birthers ignore it as it destroys their silly conspiracy!
www.obamaconspiracy.org...
When the White House Director of Communications Daniel Pfeiffer held up the birth certificate before the Press on April 27, 2011, Vogt says that the seal couldn’t be seen, invoking this bit of the transcript of the Press Gaggle: Q You showed us a photocopy of one. MR. PFEIFFER: No, I showed you – Q Does that have a stamp? MR. PFEIFFER: It has a seal on it. At a distance the embossed seal, which is just indentations on paper, was not visible, but this was to be expected. (I can’t see the seal on my own birth certificate from two feet away unless it’s held at the right angle in the light.) However, when handled the seal was visible and could be felt, by Guthrie. Guthrie also snapped two photographs of the birth certificate and Tweeted them. That evening Guthrie reported the event for NBC News and repeated into the camera that she had “felt the raised seal.” Now here’s where it gets strange. Recall Vogt said “there was no evidence of an embossed Hawaiian Department of Health (DOH) seal.” But then he himself says that he used photo enhancement techniques on both the PDF version from the White House and the Guthrie photo, saying: The PDF copy and Savannah Guthrie’s copy after the enhanced color adjustment had been made so the “seal” becomes visible on both.
The East West Center is a den of communists!
Your proof of that silly claim is.....?edit on 3-3-2014 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)
MikeultraHe's not African, he's Indonesian!
hellobruce
MikeultraHe's not African, he's Indonesian!
No, he is a natural born US citizen, as stated by the courts.
What will birthers do when Obama leaves office in 2017?
hellobruce
MikeultraHe's not African, he's Indonesian!
No, he is a natural born US citizen, as stated by the courts.
What will birthers do when Obama leaves office in 2017?
Also it is funny how birthers want DNA from the first black POTUS, but never demanded it from any previous Presidents....edit on 3-3-2014 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)
Mikeultra
The courts can go to hell!
I'm hoping he's incarcerated way before 2017.
If not I will be celebrating when the usurper slinks back to Indonesia in 2017.
Mikeultra
Regarding this issue it really is because the judges just dismiss the cases without even looking at the evidence.
Bring the big book out of the vault and show me the original!
www.jonchristianryter.com...
In a Honolulu, Hawaii court hearing in Sept., 2012—initiated by Duncan Sunahara to get his sister's actual long form birth certificate—his lawyer argued to the court that his client was entitled to the long form, hospital version of his sister's birth certificate. The State argued it had the right to provide whatever version it wished, and since taking photographs of 50 year old documents put them at risk of damage, the HDOH could issue whichever version they wanted. Hawaii Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine testified under oath in court that "...to get the long form you actually have to go to the vault. And the records that are in the vault have been stored in volumes—not just the one, not just the plaintiff's sister's records, but other records from around that time of birth...In this case, [Mr. Obama's] birth certificate—which we know is all about that!"
www.jonchristianryter.com...
Here's the serious problem with Ms. Nagamine's brief argument that no one caught or everyone simply chose to ignore. Nagamine argued that the birth record of 61 10641 was Obama's, and that Sunahara's birth record was 61 011080. There were 17,616 births in Hawaii in 1961, with a statistical average of 48 births per day, which would have placed that birth 9 to 10 days after the Nordyke twins who were actually born a day after Virginia Sunahara was born, and on the day she died.) Nagamine knew if she was forced to produce the hospital record of 10 10641, the jury would not be looking at Barack Obama's Hawaiian hospital long form birth certificate, they would be looking at Virginia Sunahara's birth/death certificate—the document Gov. Neil Abercrombie and Obama's cronies in the Hawaiian state government figured no one would ever come looking for. After all, who looks for the birth records of a baby no one ever heard of who died 52 years ago? Since nothing in the Sunahara case mentioned the name of Barack Obama, what would make Nagamine blurt out, when Sunahara's lawyer demanded they be allowed to look at the page where his sister's long form hospital birth certificate was stored, only to receive the objection that Obama's birth certificate was there, with the defiant comment that, "...we know this is all about that!"
en.wikipedia.org...
European and Arab presence in Mombasa dates to the Early Modern period, but European exploration of the interior began only in the 19th century. The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony. The independent Republic of Kenya was formed in 1964. It was ruled as a de facto single-party state by the Kenya African National Union (KANU), a Kikuyu-Luo alliance led by Jomo Kenyatta during 1963 to 1978. Kenyatta was succeeded by Daniel arap Moi, who ruled until 2002. Moi attempted to transform the de facto single-party status of Kenya into a de jure status during the 1980s, but with the end of the Cold War, the practices of political repression and torture which had been "overlooked" by the Western powers as necessary evils in the effort to contain communism were no longer tolerated.
Mikeultra
reply to post by SBMcG
OK, thanks. I think with the world in crisis going on right now, his head is probably about to pop! Sheriff Joe is the man! Thanks for the link I will keep an eye on that. Speaking of Adobe Illustrator, I was going to download the free trial just to look at this forgery. I decided not to because with free trials there are always some browser hijackers that come aboard. And I don't have the skills to really do anything with it besides looking at the layers of forgery. Just zooming in the Whitehouse Adobe pdf real quick you can see the blank areas behind where the layered type was placed! I wonder if Loretta Fuddy is alive or dead. Because the media said she's dead means nothing to me, the propaganda is so deep, I doubt anything they say is real.