Deciphering the Pagan Stones

reply to post by beansidhe

here sir (eta ooops, B sorry: lass, place red faced smiley here)

THE PHOENICIAN
Origin of Britons
Scots & Anglo-Saxons
DISCOVERED BY PHOENICIAN & SUMERIAN
INSCRIPTIONS IN BRITAIN, BY PRE-
ROMAN BRITON COINS & A MASS
OF NEW HISTORY


BY

L. A. Waddell
[Lawrence Austine Waddell]
LL.D., C.B., C.I.E.
Fellow of Royal Anthropological Institute, Linnean & Folk-Lore
Societies, Hon. Correspondt. Indian Archaeological
Survey, Ex-Professor of Tibetan,
London University

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reply to post by zardust


Wadell guite clearly shows these archetypes come from the family of sargon the great:
the grandfather (odin ripped him off) of sargon the great ( cartouch is the reeds and basket- moses ripped him off ), rulers of sumer, and menes, sargons's son the ( uniter also ) of both upper and lower egypt the admiral who navigated with the cross)...as above so below...jebus ripped him off )
aryan-myth-and-metahistory.blogspot.ca...

also:
cuculen = kukulkan
teo = deo
etc

Ts and crosses are measuring instruments
note the numbers and symbols in the old myths, they are astrological...

beansidhe
reply to post by Logarock

 

It is Thoth isn't it, just with another name? This is incredibly bizarre.

Well considering all of the other old classic icons used in this art there is no reason why this shouldn't have some derivation for Thoth. It goes back to the "bird man" shamanistic concept.






Your example had more to do with the water bird concept which like the mythical sea horse and other associated sea culture icons have to do with travel over water, conquering the sea, ect



Here Thoth is the great water bird, greeting the sun every morning with cackling, guiding the ship not only through the underworld but for our purposes here out on the sea just as it guilds the sun from the underworld every morning ect ect bringing wisdom and civilization to lands far flung, recorder of events ect ect ect.

reply to post by Danbones


Hi there!

Thanks for the link, Danbones, that is brilliant!

Danbones
reply to post by zardust

 

Wadell guite clearly shows these archetypes come from the family of sargon the great:

Wadell is really not clear at all and makes the mistake of narrowly defining and confining without wider understanding. Trying to pack it all up in a neat little container.

reply to post by Logarock


The water bird?

Mug Ruith (or Mogh Roith, "slave of the wheel") is a figure in Irish mythology, a powerful blind druid of Munster who lived on Valentia Island, County Kerry. He could grow to enormous size, and his breath caused storms and turned men to stone. He wore a hornless bull-hide and a bird mask, and flew in a machine called the roth rámach, the "oared wheel".

This seems to demonstrate quite clearly that the makers of our stones had Gnostic teachings, harking back to Sumeria (I think). So the rest of the symbols should be easy now! Lol!

reply to post by Logarock


the aryan, goth, sumerian, pharoe, menes, is also known as manistu in india (manitou amoungst the local Indians here)

this is why columbus thought he was in india

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or
Were the ancient Turks, Akkads (Sumerians) and Dravidians (Tamils) the parents of Mexico and Meso-America?

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reply to post by Danbones


I agree that sargon was placed into the sungod type. I don't believe the aryans created the symbols. They co-opted them for their empire building. That is the outward image, the false idol, the beast. The shadow. They are the corruptors, the violators, the war mongers, the persecutors, the creators of eternal hell, the religionists.

Not saying all aryans were this way, but the elite, the priesthood, and nobility. The bankers and politicians. They subjugated the rest with their use of the powerful symbols that are woven into our fabric. Those same symbols are sources of freedom, light, unity.

The buddhic stream of the sakya clan is wisdom, thoth is the moon, the feminine. The raama stream of the sakya clan is power, raama is the sungod, the sun is associated with strength, thus the bull, or aleph.

These are the intertwining serpents of the caduceus in balance you have harmony and healing, elevation to the next level of life.

Unbalanced though, the serpent of power becomes a tool for dominance. And that is what we see with the aryan empire. An unbalanced use of the archetypes of the cosmos.

When Jesus is called the Alpha/Omega that is the Greek version of the Aleph/Tau, the semitic first and last. The Logos, the entire set of symbols (letters in the alpha-bet, aleph-beth). The sun god + The buddha.

Paul said this: The anointed one (Christ) is the wisdom (thoth) and power (raama) of God.

When Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth, that term meek means something to the effect : power used for the good of others

That is a power balanced by wisdom. That is not what the Sargons were about.

reply to post by Logarock

I am curious Logarock as to what material you refer exactly

When you compare the astrological math in the myths and the work of Miller with the linguistic correspondances, the architectural correspondences, and the known misinformation from the usual sources...

well...bottom line I can navigate with the cross, tell time with it. and measure just about anything with it and use it as a calculator...and i have the symbols in my AV

serious question:
what does what you believe actually do for you?

reply to post by Danbones


I hear you and always like comparisons but you have to watch out in these type studies, diffusion, for assigning certain origins and causes. By certain I mean the know it for sure guys. We have trying to assign some origin to the Picts or at least this royal family and reading this thread you can see how difficult nailing it down to a certainty it can be even though we have made some good headway.

reply to post by zardust

interesting post
got anything to back all that up with?
zargons cartouch is the reeds and basket its written in stone all ov er the region- he was the baby in the basket that was adopted by the king ...

seems possibly the religionists came after, and today they certainly have a lot to lose if they are ever seen by the masses as the BULL****god they really are


moses my donkey

Danbones
reply to post by Logarock

 

serious question:
what does what you believe actually do for you?

I would like to answer that question but don't know what your "what" means. Do you mean what were are looking at here on this thread?

reply to post by Logarock


i agree with the caution thats why i have supplied multiple interlinking sources
i also agree that the knowledge held by menes, minos manistu was from a pre flood civilization and preserved through all the tribulations and times by a preisthood of sorts...witness the symbols in my AV

reply to post by Logarock


I was wondering what Waddell you have read...I was going to keep an eye for info that may help clear things up while I peruse this subject...I have collected several of Waddels works and am going to go through them carefully over the next few weeks I hope

Danbones
reply to post by zardust

 

interesting post
got anything to back all that up with?
zargons cartouch is the reeds and basket its written in stone all ov er the region- he was the baby in the basket that was adopted by the king ...

seems possibly the religionists came after, and today they certainly have a lot to lose if they are ever seen by the masses as the BULL****god they really are

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moses my donkey

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This is all well and good but until now we haven't had any sort of vitriol on this thread. In fact you are going wide here. Open a thread on this topic or something. It would be a great thread itself.

reply to post by Logarock


vitriol?
where?
I asked for references like we all like to provide againts opinion

we know the cross is a stolen symbol we know moses is a stolen symbol

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The war was not waged by Greeks and not caused by the abduction of Helen. The real reason was access to tin in Britain, a precious metal which was essential for the production of bronze, a key war material of the time.

During the second millennium BC, it was the custom of illiterate Sea Peoples migrating from western Europe to verbally pass on history, that's how the tales of the greatest war of prehistory, the Trojan War was first recorded.

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problems with diffusionism
ho hum
yes people keep saying that.....

Danbones
reply to post by Logarock

 

I was wondering what Waddell you have read...I was going to keep an eye for info that may help clear things up while I peruse this subject...I have collected several of Waddels works and am going to go through them carefully over the next few weeks I hope

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I just looked over his ideas about Michal the arch angel. He is showing connections and a theory of the development in a narrow field. Some of the information presented I have seen before in other forms. It doesn't take and probably cant take everything into account that effects say the ideas of "Bal" in the Mideast as they became intertwined with ideas about Michel the arch angel. So in the end he tries to hammer out a this is the way it is point of view based on incomplete information. A researcher here needs to close the circle slowly and have a broader berth of information.

reply to post by Logarock


no source is ever one hundred percent
to throw out his work for that might not be waddell's loss
especially when you compare his accuracy to the various religion's versions:
like the sun goes round the earth....

Fairly do you have something to show that refutes waddel or just your belief?

the robot that opened the shaft in the great pyramid drove over a celtic cross
its in the video when they opened the SEALED shaft
its under the star chart dated 10500 bc

to me I have enough to warrant a serious look at the works of Waddel, Miller, and their fellows

Danbones
reply to post by Logarock

 

vitriol?
where?
I asked for references like we all like to provide againts opinion


problems with diffusionism
ho hum
yes people keep saying that.....

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Well no one here really has a problem with diffusion. That's what this thread has been about.


Now as far as the cross are you talking about the cross in the Pict art? If so yes it should be considered as not being necessary a christian cross or indicating that it was intended to be christian. However just because the cross was used for a good while before christianity does not prove that old meanings are assigned to the christian cross by christians that put stock in it as a symbol. As you probably know there has been a strong Babylonian mystery influence exerted onto christianity in symbol and custom over the years. These have no real affect on the core of Christianity. All one must do is study the reasons for this to find out how this happened instead of just writing the thing off as part of a Babylonian conspiracy from its inception. Its really simple the church like every thing else from the beginning has had to deal with the influence of the Babylonian mysteries.

reply to post by Logarock


The church wanted all the gold, not competition so they buried the truth
Miller shows thats why they slaughtered the Templars
all for the vatican bank
There are others who claim they are the source of all the "lost tribes"
again to claim a false legitimacy for profit

What is real is the history that is surfacing of a seafaring civilization that preserved the real truth from long before these present usurpers of the knowledge base came along and corrupted the data for their own purposes...