Someone is playing God

1Providence1
reply to post by randyvs

Consider the possibilities, always a strong point to consider indeed.

Yes, especially when one realises, that mankinds collective knowledge
of the unioverse, could easily amount to, no more than one tenth of
one persent, of absolutely nothing. Of course you have to be smart
enough to figure that out first.

According to the model of electromagnetism (light), it exists both as single, particulate type of energy, as well as an infinite amount of waveform possibilities. This yields some of the ideas of multi-dimensionality.

But, if an infinite amount of wave form possibilities, were correct in
accordance to the model? That would mean the universe is not a closed system.
Because an infinite of wave forms would need an infinite amount of space.
And with an infinite amount of space you lose the law of thermodynamics.
The law of thermodynamics tells us the universe is a closed system.

So, if there was a person like this, wouldn't you simply get help from an even more powerful being to fix the problem, or in the very least put you in a dimension, just like the other, but with that person (the controller) simply gone?

We live in a world of maximums and absolutes. And a mans got to know his limitations

Even more curious, what if that person (the controller) was absolutely vital to this existence?

Then we would call him God.

Then again, what really is existence?

The gift.

ps: If there was a clear and present threat to the well being of people, im sure the Universe would eventually bring things back to equilibrium. That's just the way she goes!

Really! I thought if you messed with the bull, you got the horn?

radarloveguy
reply to post by randyvs

Hey Randy ,
Wisdom has it that satan is the false God and deceiver
of this world . His identity is known only to a few ,
and I beleive he is Molech and can transform
himself into an owl......

First salutations,
Haven't seen you around for sometime.
All I can say in regards to the above is, knowing you wrote it.
Makes it far more believable than if David Icke were saying it.IMHO
Right away, the movie "The Fourth Kind" comes to mind.

reply to post by chiefsmom



As the idea goes "they" create the situation and solve it at the same time. So psychologically Jim and Jane Doe, can go about their daily lives, becoming attached to their "protector". Hay don't worry about your back, Scooby Do has that back even though Scooby is at the controls of the Ghost of Mystery Gold Mine that keeps folks spooked away from all the hidden treasure.

And WOW has anyone noticed that with our nations involvement in opium producing countries heroin overdose deaths here are off the chart like never before?

Scooby Doobie Do0 now where are you?

reply to post by Logarock


I'll prolly feel like an idiot for asking.
Ok Rock, I played your Scooby Doo video like ten times already.
I'm gonna have an earworm for a month. Can ya help a guy out
and just explain to me, what's go'in on with your post? I'm
just not gett'n it partner.

randyvs
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

What if there's really no crime happening at all?
Any where in the USA? What if it's all being faked to instill
fear and keep us thinking, we need their asses. That we're
all so much safer with them around? What if the opposite
were the truth? The consensus of this thread alone says
that SH was faked and that incriminates a whole police
force. I really doubt Semper is going to do any moderating.

I kid but from the radio show and his, "Ask a cop" thread. I really like Semper.
I just wish he would chime in more, at least on certain threads. Like this one.
Where we could use some interjection from a police officers point of view on
all this. I mean i 'm sure he'd have much of great value to offer. IDK
That even adds to the weirdness.

edit on 22-1-2014 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

Crime in the USA, there is plenty. The prisons are full and they are building more. We are the most incarcerated people on the planet. Now what kind of crime, there's the story. Mostly petty crimes just like during prohibition where a man could get locked up for pounding down a beer. The real crime, like on Wall Street and in DC, why it all goes unpunished.

I think that what has happened here is that the "law enforcement" system has gotten so HUGE and pays so many enormous salaries to so many insiders that it has become a very large tail wagging a really small dog. It is perpetuating its own existence at the expense of the common street criminal while being paid to protect those very same Masters who pull the strings to grow larger and fatter by the day. It is much easier and far safer for the LE cowards to gang up on street criminals that to fight the real battle against the true enemy. Eventually these sellouts will be turned upon Joe Q. Citizen when the Masters push their agenda to the next level.

reply to post by randyvs


You could be right. It is either all that or ....

too many crazy people,
too many prescription drug side effects ("may cause thoughts of suicide")
combined with too many guns that are not secured
combined with an extremely violent culture, (bullying is commonplace in schools, graphically violent video games, TV and news) that glorifies blood and gore.

And they all COULD come together in a perfect storm.

And well ....it has been stormy lately.

reply to post by BennyHavensOh

I think that what has happened here is that the "law enforcement" system has gotten so HUGE and pays so many enormous salaries to so many insiders that it has become a very large tail wagging a really small dog

So the country wide police apparatus is swelling to the point that
it's starting to panic as it becomes increasingly spaghetti legged.
Man, this is a negative thread.

Loveaduck
reply to post by randyvs

 

You could be right. It is either all that or ....

too many crazy people,
too many prescription drug side effects ("may cause thoughts of suicide")
combined with too many guns that are not secured
combined with an extremely violent culture, (bullying is commonplace in schools, graphically violent video games, TV and news) that glorifies blood and gore.

And they all COULD come together in a perfect storm.

And well ....it has been stormy lately.

edit on 22-1-2014 by Loveaduck because: (no reason given)

All that you have described there is just symptoms of a
bigger, sicker, picture, that none of us are painting, with the
brush of undeniable shannanigens. We are seeing it come more and
more into focus. And by what is being noticed, something is definitely
wrong partner. Or there just simply wouldn't be so many people say'n it. Every
time they see a dummy gett'n an armed escort, to an ambulance at a fake shooting.

reply to post by randyvs


Well there are way too many expensive organizations that have grown to the point where there have far exceeded the ability of our society to afford to pay the bills any longer. The government has resorted to massive borrowing, and when they hit the end of that rope, started simply printing cash or more likely, adding 0's to the bottom of account balances. Everyone knows this, yet no one can stop this self fulfilling train wreck, however bringing it to the surface is one of the few positive steps we as a people can continue to do.

This thread has once again brought out the widely accepted fact that the wealthy masters of humanity are once again pulling the strings to a point where they are taking land, assets and wealth from those they have fooled into debt slavery, just as was done during the first Depression. It would be a wonderful thing to pull a positive happy direction out of this discussion and if there is some way I can help to do this I am all ears.

reply to post by BennyHavensOh


You are making some really good sense. A country as well off
as the U.S. is bound to literally out grow itself sooner or later. By
any/all of it's own institutions, agencies, departments etc etc. Where
by their very nature, have to keep on growing. From the
beginning it 's just a matter of time for not if, but when
the whole thing implodes.

reply to post by BennyHavensOh


The elite keep their wealth safely tucked up with in the banking system and its with this system that they maintain their control over the world by flooding it with cheap credit and then pulling the plug and demanding their credit/loans back. Then their asset companies simply buy the public's bankrupt assets as cheaply as possible so gain more assets and power, but its also their weakness.

The banks work simply because we all now have to pay our money into the banks and use their systems to pay our bills. Since we accepted plastic instead of cash we have given away our control over our finances and are now powerless, should our card be withdrawn for whatever reason. It also means we can be profiled with our spending which is no longer private because every transaction is visible.

One use to be able to close a bank account over-night by withdrawing ones cash and take up another bank account with a different bank on the same day were one not happy. Now for no good reason it takes some 5 - 6 weeks for this to happen. We also had complete control over our bank account but now we are forced to pay bills through direct debits so people can simply debit our accounts for what they like and, once the money has gone, its a meteoric feat to get your money back if you disagree with the amount taken, which is usually for hidden charges.

`People forget that the bank actually must have our money being paid in regularly for all its nefarious banking schemes but the power in banking is actually ours! |Without our money banks would not be able to function. Instead we feel that the bank, with its sister credit agency bully boys actually have control over our lives completely. Were we to interrupt this monstrous beast of a system, we would be taking back not only our own power, but cutting the power of the biggest over-god we have, the money industry which would hit those who think they are little gods hardest. I suspect that even were we to demand check books, use more cash and insist on standing order payments only from our accounts, we would cause the banks to hand back some of the control they have over our money. We don't have many ways of fighting back but this is a legitimate one and would hit some of the worst sociopaths in the world hardest.

I was never taught to 'question everything'. That's something that I adopted at a very young age, especially when it came to history,--a lot of stuff either sounds too peachy or it just doesn't make sense at all. Teachers would literally ignore some of my questions or get annoyed that I had differing opinions with whomever wrote that crap in those text books. I'm baffled as to why in some countries it's illegal to ask questions about WW2 and many other topics. The truth shouldn't fear investigation. I think the people who play "God" is actually many people who are in the same club, cult or whatever you want to call it. I think they see themselves as higher than the rest of the population of earth, and I think that they're responsible for a lot of things throughout history, namely 911. It was for gain and a better foothold. I also think they see depopulation as a needed tool and use it regularly. They have no value for human life, unless of course, it's someone in the club. There's been some people in history who touched on the subject of these 'dark organizations'.

reply to post by Shiloh7


The Elite of those banks can fail an economy easily and can carry that failure throughout the world because they head all banks except some that have ejected them from their countries . Still a country will have to deal with those bankers due to Globalization . So the Elite have us by the short hairs . Waiting for the right time .

I just stopped caring, and stopped watching TV a long time ago.

I just live my life according to the golden rule, if you ain't tryin to kill me or tryin to change the way I think, I won't try to kill you along with the ideas you try to express to me.

What was the discussion about?....

Acceptance?....

reply to post by Fylgje


Here are a few questions of the like, I've been pondering lately.
I invite you, or anyone else to ponder them if you like.
If you decide to search look for something unique. If you only skim
the surface? You will only regurgitate that which has most likely
become mundane.

!. How is it, anyone can just accept, what they are being told about
Sandy Hook? When not one person, has seen any evidence, what so
ever that anybody even died at SHE ? There's not one drop of blood.
Not one picture of a body. And not one death certificate. Nothing!

2. Who cleaned up the murder scene at Sandy Hook?

3. Other than gun control, why would anyone elaborate, such
diabolical deceptions? What kind of mind conceives any such
thing? And then pulls it off in the hokeiest way? But still the
mice follow every step.

4. Why do so many flags, from so many different countries, bare a
symbol of the occult ? Namely a five pointed star?

5. If someone has this much control over a police dept? How can
we even trust any police dept. anywhere? Or anyone that is associated
to government?

That's just a start.

reply to post by randyvs



In the UK , Canada and Australia a mass school shooting was the event that caused the gun grab . Then Sandy hook where the FBI investigators and local cops could not get their stories together . The Federal Investigators stated that only 4 pistols was found in the class room . Then It became a AR 15 Assault rifle .Lanza I guess took time to put the rifle back in the car and then went back into the class room and killed him self . Then what ever happened to the man in camo that they caught leaving the school ? These Globalist Bunch think they are smarter than the Gentile Goy? Not!

BrianFlanders

What is important to me is to keep the spirit of freedom as alive and complete as humanly possible. We have way more than enough government and laws and regulations for any one country already. The whole idea with the Bill of Rights was just to put some sensible limits on the scope of government power. It was never intended to be an all-inclusive list of every right human beings have that should not be violated by government. But without it, they knew they had a government that would be essentially unlimited. Really, The Bill of Rights as it is today is more like an umbrella in a hurricane. There's not much protection there when you look at how bloated the government has gotten and compare that to the very modest limitations that are still in place. And most of them have been watered down. Not because they had to be but because of rot.

There has been very little actual refinement to the rights. The number and scope of our rights has not nearly kept pace with the size and scope of the government.

I honestly agree with you, but what has kept me from replying to this response for a couple of days, has been what I want to say. Our founding fathers were some awesome guys, there stories have made for a lot of reading over the scope of my life. Lets take a look at the founding documents.

1. All men are created equal. I am pretty sure we can all agree that is not what they meant in the 18th century. What they truly meant, was All land owning white men are created equal. They ignored one entire gender, and anyone with dark skin was only worth 3/5's or 60%. Fortunately, some of those issues have been fixed in the 21st century.

2. Well organized militia, something that others have defined and redefined again. I have no problem with my sane, non violent felon, neighbor owning a gun, however, I do not believe he needs a tank, rpg, flamethrower, cannon, or an automatic weapon.

3. When you speak of the government, most assume federal. That being said, state and local government affects my life much more than the feds, and there are some, even on this site that do not realize all of the levels of government we have in this country. Obama is not killing my small business the local and state government are kicking the crap out of it.

There is a lot more I want to say, but am tired and dealing with a family issue, so will stop here. I look forward to talking with you in the future as you have been an honest and honorable debate opponent.

I will help try and clarify how this game is being played.

The Mere-exposure effect as identified by author, R.B. Zajonc of Stanford University as the manifestation of familiarity in association to a concept, person or product. The procedures consist of repeatedly exposing one to a particular stimulus object". Furthermore, "empirical research shows that any experience of repetition can in and of itself create a heuristic based positive affect". Meaning that the stimuli allows the formation of subconscious opinion, often resulting in immediate cognitive association. When identifying the most influential elements in an individuals life, none is more directly correlated with the use of these tactics on public opinion than advertisements.

Through such application you can literally dictate the opinions individuals hold and subsequently frame the very topics discussed. If a human followed the same practices as companies, that person would unquestionably be labeled "crazy". Labeling is the surest and most successful form of manipulation. There is a quote that I really like which that explains this,

"If a man has an apartment stacked to the ceiling with newspapers we call him crazy. If a woman has a trailer house full of cats we call her nuts. However when an individual pathologically hoard so much money that they impoverish the entire nation, we put them on the cover of Fortune magazine and pretend they're role models."

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole think about how absurd a currency backed by "faith" is. Thus we can conclude that corporate monopolies not only create the subsequent conditions of scarcity that creates ruthless competition for survival, they also eliminate intrinsic value by making it subject to interpreted value attributed to monopoly interests. Plainly stated playing God is easy, and the cost is our human dignity. I don't believe in coincidences, I know better. Subliminal messages are nothing new, and they are designed specifically to produce a desired outcome. Therefore, if more and more press coverage is being given to school shootings, it is being done with a clear intention.

For example, often we see in the media the portrayal as African Americans as the population which comprises the largest group currently in poverty when in fact White People Make Up 42% of the poor in the United States. Limited coverage was given to articles which stated that 4 In 5 US Adults Face Near-Poverty. We are being systematically forced to turn on one another. I supported the tea party in its infancy, right here as it was created on this very site, only to see it emerge in the media as I was forced to sit by and watch it evolve into a mockery and a shell of it's true character.

Corporate money combined with puppets like Sarah Palin, hijacked and distorted the message, forcing its members to adopt ridiculous elite ideologies that were never really their own. Just recently I tried adding a Tea Party member on twitter, only to be told publicly that he "hated me and that my socialist agenda was ruining this country". You know, "my socialist agenda" that asks who among us has the right to limit another’s life, liberty or happiness? I don't blame the guy or the truther movement because I understand that people are just afraid and angry and are willing to do anything to eliminate a perceived threat. All I ask is question the credibility and the intentions of the person giving the message. I am broke, just like the majority of folks now-a-days and things won't truly change until the real enemies that have been forcing us to savagely attack one another are brought to public justice. Violence also is not the answer either because it will only give them the justification they so desperately crave. Alternatively, if something is going to happen, it has got to happen fast or else they will bring us right into World War 3. In the words of Albert Einstein, you have to learn the rules of the game, and then you have to play better than anyone else". Reclaim your mind, for the spirit of God is the very fabric of consciousness subject to no man's rule unless allowed.

reply to post by babybunnies

Either the concept of The Devil is ridiculous, or, if you think about it, if the concept of The Devil is acceptable to you, then you have to change your concept of what your GOD is. Because, if your God is "all powerful" then why does he ALLOW Satan to do what you claim Satan does? Because if your God was "all knowing", "benevolent", and "all powerful", then he could smite The Devil in a heartbeat, and take away all the bad in the world.

This is a logical thought pattern for a humans that lives 70-100 years, but if you are being that had no beginning and no end your perspective would be different. You would create a solution that would solve the issue of universal soverienty for all eternity, and then erase the pain and suffering of the past to the equivalent of a bad dream. But the history would remain as an eternal reminder of what a failure rebellion in both the spirit and physical realm resulted in. People forget that any future claim that God never allowed enough time for an alternate system with it's accompany leaps in technology, would need considerable time from our perspective.