440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?

reply to post by C21H30O2I

Perhaps Bach was conspiring to slow humanity down when he tuned the harpsichord for the "Well-tempered Harpsichord". I've have always been under the impression that he thought, as most musicians do, that the tempered scale sounds better than the natural scale.

reply to post by C21H30O2I


Since this stupid world of ours switched over from Analogue to Digital Music,TV.Radio TX. I have noticed how the original Treble Tone has vanished. All we have now is Volume, not much use, Stereo Balance and Bass adjustments. Today it all sounds ridiculous.

Stick to my old Tape recorder and Trance.

Just as a bit of background, I've been practicing qigong and meditation for years. I'm very much in tune with my body and mind, and I can say for an (anecdotal) fact that I experience a massive difference when listening to music in 432hz.

No, I don't need double blind studies or control groups to validate my experience. No, I didn't set out to listen to 432hz music with preconceived notions that it'd be a significant change in my listening experience.

But it is. The calm, the clarity, the instant repression of mental chatter I experience during listening to 432hz, it's akin to a state of light meditation.

I believe now that there is a conspiracy. After all, there's someone micromanaging every other aspect of our "reality" for a specific purpose. Why not this?

While I can't know for certain that I'm right on the conspiracy front, I know now how 432hz music makes me feel compared to 440hz. And the difference is night and day.

Just think, we should have been experiencing this all along. Real criminals aren't some kids locked up for having baggies of weed. Real criminals are the psychopaths who control our governments and murder innocents, those who deliberately set out to corrupt nature and deprive humanity of its true nature.

I apologise if someone has already posted this in this thread but here:

If you want to listen to your current music collection in 432hz you can download foobar here
www.foobar2000.org...

Then download soundtouch plugin here
www.softpedia.com...

follow these instructions to install and configure addon
www.witchmastercreations.com...

reply to post by pufflemuf


That looks like an awful lot of work just
To pitch shift a song 1.8 semitones. I'm not sure you really understand how music works. If I play A major in 440 or play G major in 432 its the same chord. Like wise an A major in 432 is going to sound exactly like a B major in 440. The frequency you seem to think has been forced out of our grasp without downloading a bunch of useless software is still there, still heard and still played. The same chords and notes are able to be played in rather tuning. People who write music play they hear in their head. It is the right music for them to play and create. Those notes and chords have no stake in the tuning used. I have one bass tuned in 435 another in 425 and a 3rd in 415 yet I still play and use the same A you would hear in 432. Now before you go and correct me by pointing out that the position i referred to as 432 hz is actually 430 hz and that 432 hz are NOT the same. True. However your ear is not able to discern that minuscule difference unless you are that tiny percentage of people born with perfect pitch.

reply to post by peter vlar


yes i do understand music

It takes 5mins if your slow..

I never said your ear could hear the difference but them vibrations are flowing through you and are mathematically more in tune with life, more harmony

but... Opinions are like arseholes..everyone has one..

I've listened to it on youtube and some of the cymatics demonstrations, and it does seem to have a very relaxing, maybe even healing type effect on me. It just plain sounds better. I'm going to try and encode all my music to 432hz and give it a few months and see if I notice any difference. Great topic!

reply to post by C21H30O2I


Very good thread, S&F! This makes me think that there is some truth to people who listen to classical music written and composed before the change, and its ''claimed'' benefits to make children more intelligent when they are still in the womb, etc.

Food for thought...I am pretty sure listening to Eminem and Metallica doesn't provide benefits to children, not the ones we are looking for at least?

reply to post by Tancred


right, but if you factor in that Bach had several of his organs tuned with A in 480 not 432 or 440 it kind of excludes that scenario from supporting the change of frequency as a conspiracy or that 432 hz is harmonious with nature and gives you wings like red bull. One of the big differences between Classical and Modern music is that Classical composition favored Major keys with C major being the most frequent key used compared with modern music using a various mixture of major and minor keys as well as utilizing additional scales and modes that weren't used in traditional Classical pieces. The A above middle C played on an instrument tuned at 432 hz sounds and is exactly like the A above middle C on an instrument tuned at 440 hz it is simply played in a different position.

peter vlar
reply to post by Tancred

 

right, but if you factor in that Bach had several of his organs tuned with A in 480 not 432 or 440 it kind of excludes that scenario from supporting the change of frequency as a conspiracy or that 432 hz is harmonious with nature and gives you wings like red bull. One of the big differences between Classical and Modern music is that Classical composition favored Major keys with C major being the most frequent key used compared with modern music using a various mixture of major and minor keys as well as utilizing additional scales and modes that weren't used in traditional Classical pieces. The A above middle C played on an instrument tuned at 432 hz sounds and is exactly like the A above middle C on an instrument tuned at 440 hz it is simply played in a different position.

I dont doubt Your knowledge of musical frequencies in a physical sense being much greater than mine but..
Try to think in terms of the range of frequencies belonging to 432hz being closer to a harmonic vibration with life than others kind of like if you triangulate the whole spectrum into one point . This base point may be more in tune with us.

I don't say this out of experience or anything I am just speculating on the possibilities and would be interested in information from anyone who has used this for a period of time consciously.

If you think how everything we experience in this life is just different frequencies of vibration - it would be crazy not to think that listening to musical vibrations (harmonics) will not affect us greatly.

A good example I can think of is if you are the ever used a Tibetan bowl, to make it sing you have two and even pressure and is slow speed (wwhich is what ever rpm?, Which is the same as a certain frequency?) Meaning a perfect frequency for that specific physical object (the size,density and shape of the Tibetan bowl) , all them different vibrations working together but one frequency creates more, if disharmonious causes discord

AliceBleachWhite

I'm of the opinion that all this closer to nature and the universe healing properties stuff is nonsense.

Why?

Because Nature WILL KILL YOU.

I invite anyone that thinks Nature is gentle, healing, magical, and nurturing to step outside naked, right now, head for the closest unspolied 'natural' wilderness, and without any tools, survive for one week.

I invite anyone to step on the surface of any planet or moon in this Solar System, other than Earth, naked and then come back to tell us how nurturing the Universe really is.

Nature will KILL YOU.

Thus, all this frequency stuff; I'd advance, since Nature is so deadly dangerous, we're better off staying far away from anything even remotely resembling 'natural'.

This is a truly truly terrible way of thinking

Silicis n Volvo

AliceBleachWhite

I'm of the opinion that all this closer to nature and the universe healing properties stuff is nonsense.

Why?

Because Nature WILL KILL YOU.

I invite anyone that thinks Nature is gentle, healing, magical, and nurturing to step outside naked, right now, head for the closest unspolied 'natural' wilderness, and without any tools, survive for one week.

I invite anyone to step on the surface of any planet or moon in this Solar System, other than Earth, naked and then come back to tell us how nurturing the Universe really is.

Nature will KILL YOU.

Thus, all this frequency stuff; I'd advance, since Nature is so deadly dangerous, we're better off staying far away from anything even remotely resembling 'natural'.

This is a truly truly terrible way of thinking

mhmm

Silicis n Volvo

AliceBleachWhite

I'm of the opinion that all this closer to nature and the universe healing properties stuff is nonsense.

Why?

Because Nature WILL KILL YOU.

I invite anyone that thinks Nature is gentle, healing, magical, and nurturing to step outside naked, right now, head for the closest unspolied 'natural' wilderness, and without any tools, survive for one week.

I invite anyone to step on the surface of any planet or moon in this Solar System, other than Earth, naked and then come back to tell us how nurturing the Universe really is.

Nature will KILL YOU.

Thus, all this frequency stuff; I'd advance, since Nature is so deadly dangerous, we're better off staying far away from anything even remotely resembling 'natural'.

This is a truly truly terrible way of thinking

mhmm

reply to post by AK907ICECOLD


That may not work anymore... since a violinist or every other orchestra musician will tune his instrument with an A major (440Hz)... so even the clasical music sounds different and doesnt have the benefits it should... id love to listen to a beethoven symphony on n432 hz tuned instruments and see if it enhances the already awesome experience

AliceBleachWhite

Thus, all this frequency stuff; I'd advance, since Nature is so deadly dangerous, we're better off staying far away from anything even remotely resembling 'natural'.

Everything in moderation, my dear.

One hour of sunshine each day promotes a healthy skin tone.
Four hours of sunshine between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. promotes sunburn.

Shine or burn... it's up to you.

It has been proven that low frequency sound (under 20 Hz) does make people sick.

The presence of the tone resulted in a significant number (22%) of respondents reporting anxiety, uneasiness, extreme sorrow, nervous feelings of revulsion or fear, chills down the spine, and feelings of pressure on the chest.[32][33] In presenting the evidence to the British Association for the Advancement of Science, Professor Richard Wiseman said, "These results suggest that low frequency sound can cause people to have unusual experiences even though they cannot consciously detect infrasound.
Infrasound...

It is possible that there may be a sound frequency that promotes good health when used in moderation.

Whichever sound you play first will sound better because your ears tune in to that key and the next tone ends up sounding like a sour note.

TRY THIS:

Everyone who has watched the first video already, go back and watch it but start with the second half, then switch to the first half. The 432hz sounds awful once your ears have tuned for 440hz.

reply to post by bitsforbytes

bitsforbytes

Also, the subsequent notes C,D, E, F, G, B that are derived from the root note 432 Hz being an A4, will give almost only round numbers with no decimals. However, 440 Hz gives decimals which is not as natural. Math can verify that.

It's been all said in the older thread. It doesn't matter. You can use some numerology to your heart content but it's nonsence once you realize that Hertz - cycle per second is not real. Second is not real. You could measure time in longer units and your math would tell different story.

However we could try to find the center of green colour and use math to derive it and many octaves later we could play it as a sound note. We could do the same with red of course to start our octave with the right colour.
They do the same trick while playing radio waves of the planets as sound.
We could also tune our sound scale in relation to Schumann resonance or the colour of the sun to be in tune with it.

440 Hz sucks for sure.

pufflemuf

peter vlar
reply to post by Tancred

 

right, but if you factor in that Bach had several of his organs tuned with A in 480 not 432 or 440 it kind of excludes that scenario from supporting the change of frequency as a conspiracy or that 432 hz is harmonious with nature and gives you wings like red bull. One of the big differences between Classical and Modern music is that Classical composition favored Major keys with C major being the most frequent key used compared with modern music using a various mixture of major and minor keys as well as utilizing additional scales and modes that weren't used in traditional Classical pieces. The A above middle C played on an instrument tuned at 432 hz sounds and is exactly like the A above middle C on an instrument tuned at 440 hz it is simply played in a different position.

I dont doubt Your knowledge of musical frequencies in a physical sense being much greater than mine but..
Try to think in terms of the range of frequencies belonging to 432hz being closer to a harmonic vibration with life than others kind of like if you triangulate the whole spectrum into one point . This base point may be more in tune with us.

I don't say this out of experience or anything I am just speculating on the possibilities and would be interested in information from anyone who has used this for a period of time consciously.

If you think how everything we experience in this life is just different frequencies of vibration - it would be crazy not to think that listening to musical vibrations (harmonics) will not affect us greatly.

A good example I can think of is if you are the ever used a Tibetan bowl, to make it sing you have two and even pressure and is slow speed (wwhich is what ever rpm?, Which is the same as a certain frequency?) Meaning a perfect frequency for that specific physical object (the size,density and shape of the Tibetan bowl) , all them different vibrations working together but one frequency creates more, if disharmonious causes discord

edit on 14-1-2014 by pufflemuf because: (no reason given)

You can paint it up however pretty you like but it doesn't change the fact that an A in 432 resonates at the exact same frequency as a G in 440. It's a falsehood and misrepresentation to continue to claim otherwise. I won't debate that
certain keys sound better to me and depending on the piece, Key, tempo,time signature etc. it can affect my mood. It's about the keys and personal preference not the tuning. The vibrational frequencies played in 432 are still present in 440. That can't be disputed.

Tancred
reply to post by C21H30O2I

 

Very good thread, S&F! This makes me think that there is some truth to people who listen to classical music written and composed before the change, and its ''claimed'' benefits to make children more intelligent when they are still in the womb, etc.

Food for thought...I am pretty sure listening to Eminem and Metallica doesn't provide benefits to children, not the ones we are looking for at least?

I can guarantee you that classical orchestras do not, nor ever did, tune to 432hz. The "change" you speak of was a standardization, a common ground in the pitch spectrum, that is all. People will put a conspiracy to anything, and gullible fools will eat that stuff up because that's what they are. And burn me alive for saying it: people who state that they "feel" different listening to music in 432 are either prone to suggestion, easily influenced or full of sh*t.

reply to post by seabhac-rua


Spot on. In the 18th century and prior, A above middle C could vary from 330 hz to 480 hz depending on the composer and featured instrumentation. Not only
That but A @440 is standard only in the US and UK. The rest of Europr uses 442
If I remember correctly and other places use a similar variation. To the human ear though the difference between 440&442 is not discernible.