Why does everyone mysteriously hate/dislike me for no reason? Is the shadow gov behind it?

reply to post by jimmyx


happy new year to you too...

This post is somewhat "odd" since I never saw a female quasi "begging" like that, sorry for a lack of better expression.

But a "remote diagnosis" over the internet is of course not possible, I know nothing about you, your age, your personality etc..etc...

But is there a remote chance that it's actually "not you" but rather the people in your surroundings are "off", I mean that's a possibility also. For example, you could be a person with "progressive" ideas and thoughts and live in some hick town in the rural south...no wonder you would have problems "integrating", just saying...

Please keep in mind that "socializing" "correctly" is not a one-way-ticket WHICH ONLY BENEFITS YOU...have you ever thought about that? Any relationship is always two-ways, the benefit and joy doesn't flow in one direction, there is no one person who receives, it's BOTH.

I think I got a little hint of your awkwardness (NOT THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY A BAD THING!) a little while back where you posted a comment such as "I don't think I will log-in anymore after today", which was *slightly* awkward because you made a public thread asking for help...but then basically saying you cannot or don't want to log-in any longer...however want to continue receiving the benefit of reading the help people give you but think it would be inconvenient for you continuing to actively participate in the discussion.

No biggie...maybe it's nothing...but for me a SLIGHT hint about a certain social awkwardness...and obviously you will not be aware of ANY of it.

Hint: I was *extremely* social awkward up until late, VERY late until I got my first GF and married. I am thinking back at this time and how HORRIBLE and terrible I behaved and what things I did making me appear like a total ass to other people...simply because I was used to live my life alone where other people didn't play a big role. I did really stupid things like for example denying someone who visited a glass of orange juice "because I needed the juice" because I was used to ALWAYS having juice in the fridge for my cereals....or that one day when a friend came over and bought us pizza and I mentioned that the pizza was the worst pizza I ever had.

THINKING BACK I am getting entirely embarrassed how I behaved and did not realize how it affected others.

HINT, lol: If someone pays for your food, do NOT mention in case you wouldn't like it. That's just ONE lesson, one of many you will learn. There are simply some rules (be them "rational" or "irrational", doesn't matter, humans are irrational beings by default)...and you're not born knowing about those rules, you need to learn them. And you only learn them by participating in live actively, how I did after I married, for example.

reply to post by wutdouthink


Like some people here already said. You try too hard to accommodate others. Also low self-confidence will influence your aura which will consequently deflect other people.

#3 and #4 of your reasons may be possible but not likely here As for the guys who want to score, you seem a pretty weak and easy target, but may after a 5 dates, like mentioned, after not scoring rather move along.

Like said your energy/aura is very important here. Once you feel good about yourself and in general and let people see you as real you, not the other person behind a curtian, you will be fine.

However, it`s hard to say what excatly is the issue with you, because I don`t know you. But in general people are more likely to be around people with good energy who make them feel good and at ease. So if you have tensions with yourself when around others, you are giving bad vibes so this might be a problem. Other problem might be, like also many have said, that you might have too attacking approach. Also might be your smell, but this seem to me very unlikely as I have never met a girl that would on date or dinner smell funny

Can say also that if guys are interested in you at first, then it`s definitely not your looks or your smell, and more likely to be your aura or personality. What about female friends? You have no interest hanging out with them? I know some of those kind of girls well and must say they are the best And they are not lesbians They don`t like gossip, don`t like too much ego girly competitions, are easy going and easy to talk to.

So yeah, my advice to you....try to be yourself, try not to feel nervous(starring away, shaking..etc..), because this is akward energy/aura, listen to people, be honest, make jokes if appropriate(if you go too far, apologise ) and that`s about it. Maybe show some arrognace(by replying sth) or ignorance if they say or make sth you don`t like. And don`t let yourself in on the first date, remember, the most desired fruit is the one you can`t get

Oh, almost forgot to say, but try not to make and date friends on FB, use it to add friends that you already know or meet in person and maybe get along with. Also don`t post everyting on FB like where you are, where you go, what you do, what you like...etc....because not only that you`ll have nothing new to tell on a date or a drink, but you also are keep updating your "police" record for the governments to see and know everything about you Just saying in case if you didn`t know that already.

I hope it turns out well for you...

reply to post by wutdouthink


What an interesting turn...

Remember wut, sometimes our actions tell us all we ever need to know about ourselves.

reply to post by wutdouthink


You are too clingy and desperate. You also don't have any taste or style. That is why you don't have any friends.

You need to come up with some interests of your own and then other people with the same interests will naturally be in your same circle, that's how we make friends.

You need to have some discernment about who you are speaking to, and you also need to watch those around you who have what you want and then "act as if" until that becomes you. Otherwise you are always going to be clingy and desperate and nobody will want to be your friend.

Also, you need to concern yourself more with what you think of them rather than what they think of you. Otherwise people feel watched and judged and that's just weird.

reply to post by wutdouthink



Facebook is not for real friends. 98% of the people I'm friends with on FB (who aren't family) are not my "friends" They wish me Happy Birthday on my Birthday sure,though I haven't seen nor spoke to them since 2nd grade. I bet I could change my Birthdate, and get them all to wish me Happy Birthday 3 times a year without them knowing. LOL

Forget the internet, and possibly work for making real friends. Most people only have 4 or 5 "true" friends,and they've known them since gradeschool. So being home schooled you're kinda left out on that one. But you seem to be talking about finding guys, so you're looking for a mate, not a friend? You'll have to use different tactics for that, and being a female, you have an advantage in that department, trust me :p. Younger girls don't know this, when you hit about 26-28, you'll realize, and use it to your advantage

But more seriously..,If you're happy with yourself, and other people at work ignore you completely when you say Hello, it's because they are unhappy with themselves. This is crucial imo. Too many people get into relationships because they can't bear to be alone. I believe if you can't enjoy your own company and time by yourself, what good are you to another person?

Personally I talk to about 5 people on the phone, all are family. Other than that I have a dozen or so internet gamer friends I talk with via headset, when gaming. Aside from that I have zero friends, and I am Happy. Probably because I've had many relationships when I was younger, too many serious relationships at too early of an age. I enjoy being alone now.

But I think some other posters gave you solid advice, if you sift through the jokes and troll posts. You'll be fine. Good luck.

reply to post by wutdouthink


OK, so I read your thread and most of the replies. Seems like there is a simple solution. Become friends or acquaintances with some of the folks on this thread and ask them to let you know if and when things become weird. Ask for their absolutely honest opinion or thoughts and then act as you normally would. Email or text as you normally would with your friends and then see what the feedback is. Most folks on here are pretty good about being honest so take their feedback and see if it fits with your perception of yourself, etc.

Also, as a single guy I will say that any time a girl is too eager to take things to the next level, its a major turn off for me. I can only speak for myself, but to me that comes off as way too needy. I have been in relationships with needy girls before and and it sucks the life out of you like a vampire. It truly is emotionally, spiritually and physically draining to be around some folks. For me its especially bad with needy girls and negative people. If I am having a conversation with a negative person I literally feel my energy being drained away. It sounds crazy but its true. I literally can't get away from these people fast enough.

As far as the dating etc., like I said, don't seem too eager. I agree with a lot of other folks' replies that guys like to do the pursuing or at least feel like they are in control of the progress of the relationship. So its important not to seem too eager to take things to the next level. Let the guy initiate the progress and you will probably have better results. There are probably other guys on here that can give better advice on dating I don't do much of it for this very reason. I am yet to date a girl who didn't want to get married within the first six months of us dating. I do believe that the time you are dating shouldn't matter, if you have known each other a month and you both know its right, then nothing wrong with moving to the next level. But it HAS to be mutual. One person who wants to get married and another who is just trying to have fun and date is the worst combination in the world. My advice, for what its worth, if you are looking for a lifelong mate, find someone who shares common interests with you. Find someone you can sit and talk to for hours. Someone who generally agrees with your viewpoints helps as well. For example, personally I believe in possibility of aliens, sasquatch, etc. (All the "Normal" stuff on this site) and I dated and lived with a girl for seven years who also believed in the possibility of these things. We could sit and talk for hours about any of these subjects, discussing possibilities, ways to find proof, etc. In general we had the same interests. Liked similar authors, directors, TV shows, movies, etc. It really was, in many ways, the best relationship I had ever been in. So my advice, find someone you have a lot in common with. I could never date someone who did not hold the same political position as me. Never. I have walked away from smokin' hot girls because they vote for the other team. (Oddly, at least two of them actually seemed more interested in after I turned them down because of their political affiliation. Go figure?) This may not be the right approach for everyone, but for me, I could never imagine being with someone who was so fundamentally opposite me.

And finally, you might be too eager or at least be perceived as too eager because you have never "been with" a guy. When your body is ready for that and it sends out pheremones and other signals that you are "ready" coupled with talk of long-term commitment or advancing the relationship, might be a turn off for young guys especially. Anyhow, try the experiment with some folks on this thread and just see how people perceive you. Hopefully you will gain some insight and maybe even make a few friends?

reply to post by wutdouthink


You need an advanced soul type that can handle you properly.

These are lacking in numbers, but they are out there.

Secondly, deprogram yourself completely from head to toe about what you believe, and suddenly the realization of what you are, will take control and from there, you can make people respond to you however you like.

Serdgiam
reply to post by wutdouthink

 

What an interesting turn...

Remember wut, sometimes our actions tell us all we ever need to know about ourselves.

I saw that coming from a mile away.

reply to post by Stormdancer777
Read the first page and then skipped to the end (yes, sometimes I do that with books too) saw that post and thought uh hun, ya'll got played...

reply to post by LadySkadi


I gave my advice with this in mind.

OP is used to moving away, after all.

Stormdancer777
reply to post by grandmakdw

 

Isn't it sad that people are so superficial?

It really is sad, Stormdancer. Sometimes I think our world has the potential to be such a better place than it is. You know, I don't think being normal is all it's cut out to be -

A lot of people are motivated by fear more than anything else, to the point where they harm themselves, others and society because of it - and that fear comes from being socially adept, in a lot of cases.

It seems like you're too eager to have sex. That's going to end up hurting you in the end most likely. Most people you're likely to date would probably end up cheating. That's just my experience. Most of my guy friends were all cheaters, my brother and his friends, cheaters. Nobody has any sense of self worth anymore when it comes to that.

Look at it this way at least you haven't experimented with drugs as a direct result of not having friends. That's a huge benefit, and i'd try to keep it that way.

True friends are real hard to find. There are a lot of fake, brainwashed people out there. When I was growing up I had many different groups of friends because I had a party house, but it wasn't worth it and now I basically have no friends left. I stopped talking to all my old friends because they were no good and my best friend killed himself six months ago.

It could be the way you carry yourself or act, maybe you act different because you were home schooled. People might think you're weird or crazy. As others have said you also seem to be trying too hard. Eventually you will find a friend once someone is willing to give you a good chance.

reply to post by wutdouthink


There are 4 potential causes.

A)Nothing. They just don't care that you are there or not.

B)Have something on your record/online/history/ that people see that makes them form a strong opinion about you.(pretty common)Something like an passive aggressive former girlfriend wants to get even by calling the police and saying you stalked her.Who's going to believe you? No conviction but there is a record of the complaint.

C)Got on the wrong side of a local power structure or political party.

D)Hate groups or criminals of some kind want to terrorize you for some perceived slight.

Sometimes good friends are hard to find. A couple of other factors don't help though. I know I'm more than socially awkward enough, so even though I've had some very good friends I could count on in the past, finding new friends is difficult after old ones move on for whatever reason.

It doesn't get any easier when you get older either. I'm at an age where I'm supposed to have had kids already, hold a decent job, etc. But I have none of those things, so I can't really relate. (And I went to college and all that, but started out later and age discrimination is likely one of those biases that are nearly impossible to work around in my field of interest. So I'm stuck doing make-do work that doesn't pay jack and just getting by.) Not to mention I've got a bit of a computer hobby which can have some technical aspects that are hard to explain. And I haven't outgrown liking animation or video games. Some things I could probably relate better to a younger crowd, but I get the feeling I'd be seen as "creepy" and finding people with similar interests in my own age bracket is fairly rare. (Likely there are more out there, but most don't talk about it much for same reasons. At least on the internet I can socialize easier as people usually don't care about much other than the topics of interest.)

So you're having trouble relating, and once you show any enthusiasm for anything that goes "whoosh" over people's heads - you'll get that blank "zombie" look. I know it well enough. (And I probably do the same to them when they talk about TV shows or sports I don't follow.) When people feel dumb around you or can't connect strongly enough in other ways, they tend to move along. It's fairly normal and natural. (And it's not necessarily from being grating or overbearing, and I try not to be like that as I find those personalities annoying myself.)

Eventually you'll find somebody you can relate to, it just takes time. Keep doing your own thing, and somebody with similar interests might find you instead. If not, oh well, it's probably no big loss. Just keep on keeping on, and you'll figure something out. Sometimes you'll find relationships with other people are overrated and it's better to do what makes you happy anyways.

reply to post by wutdouthink


Sometimes, people can be real jerks. I have FAMILY members that ignore FB posts that aren't their own, and only post silly little pictures, etc. Don't worry about it. If they act like that, you don't want them for friends, anyway. People you work with might be friendly, and might not. There are jerks in every workplace there is, though. Just be yourself, and those that would be a friend will be, and those that won't, won't be. Don't sweat it. I know what you mean with the moving and schooling, though. I did go to public school, but we moved some, so the oldest friends I have are from high school. There are a few that I still talk to, and call real friends, and a lot more I never hear from at all. People just lose touch when separated by time and distance, and get too busy to stay in touch. Some, too, only care about the ones where they are, for what they can get out of them. Callous attitude, I know, but often true. But, no, you aren't jinxed, or cursed, or anything. You just haven't met the right people yet. Real friends aren't common, no matter what the popularity folks think, but are rare, and to be treasured. My kids do home school, and the oldest still texts people he camped with (a week only) for a couple of years, several years back. The younger ones know kids from church, and some in the neighborhood, though we don't have a lot of those. Don't yet the artificial social system of the schools make you feel like you missed something.

i can tell you what i think

u prob dont buy into the formality of the setoff population, the ones who think they are cool for acting like all their friends, and don't care if your right about it

at this rate you may never have friends ever, for not being a kiss ass, but look on the bright side your better then them

You sound really narcissistic, that might have something to do with it....

I think I'll just ignore this thread. The govern.... told.... never mind. Gotta go.

reply to post by wutdouthink


Be content with yourself first. Most people aren't worth your time, but sometimes to find those good friends that everyone deserves you have to wade through a pile of garbage first. If you even find 1 best friend you are lucky and blessed. Stick with it and don't give up.