Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

But I guess for me at least, RFI has become so tedious and devoid of research value that its time to investigate something which is not a web of lies, deception and childish bickering and posturing.

a reply to: vlawde

I'm also getting tired of Rendlesham. There are so many contrary accounts and opinions that the whole thing is too muddled at this point

Guys you've probably realized that I stopped looking into it as anything more than soap opera a while back. In fact that is the only thing that has kept me interested. So It's more of a social study to me now...............

Larry Warren - a chameleon or a cuckoo? Did anyone really see him out in the woods or is he taking someone else's place to get a story out there?

Jim Penniston - Binary Refinery Man. The only person in the world whose memory has improved with age. On the night of the 25th Dec going into the morning of the 26th 1980, whilst supposedly making notes, he wrote 27th Dec 80 into his notebook. He literally didn't know what day it was back then (or wrote it all later when the Halt memo came out). It took 13 years to remember the glyphs on the side of the craft, another 7 years to remember that notebook and another decade to put the ones and zeroes back into the book.

Charles Halt - The Colonel of Truth. Because somewhere within his story there is a kernel of truth. He probably did see some strange lights out in the forest. Maybe even a beam of light shining down on the ground. On a cold English December night the atmosphere can play tricks. But his actions speak louder than the words he typed in his memo. He didn't do a thing about it at the time and waited nearly 3 weeks to let the Brits know he saw some unexplained lights.

John Burroughs - Rendlesham 'Forest Grump'. Certainly suffered heart damage. But was it whilst he was out in the forest on the 26th Dec 1980 on duty or two nights later when technically he wasn't at work? We really don't know. It might have been.



And when the night is cloudy.
There is still a light that shines on me
Oh, there will be an answer,
Let it be?

a reply to: Guest101

You are assuming the binary code has no merit in regard to what it contains. Again, assumption is not fact.

Here's the seven coordinates . . .

52.0942532 N 13.131269 W
16.763177 N 89.117768 W
34.800272 N 111.843567 W
29.977836 N 31.131649 E
14.701505 S 75.167043 W
36.256845 N 117.100632 E
37.110195 N 25.372281 E

The fact is the coordinates are also a code, which contains additional information.
I'd like you and others here to try and work it out.
There is nothing better than working it out yourself if you can, and seeing it.

A clue as to how to approach it has already been given.

a reply to: Gaos0

With all due respect Gary if all you are concentrating on is the binary codes without really seeking how they came into existence you are leaving yourself wide open to criticism.

Should we believe in Father Christmas because the presents magically keep turning up at the end of the bed once a year?

Or should we question whether a big jolly man in a red suit has been sneaking down the chimney to deliver them?

You might like the gift you've been given but has it been delivered under false pretences?

a reply to: mirageman

A fantastic summary.

a reply to: mirageman

I already gave my answer to that.

It makes no difference to me whether this code was devised by "another intelligence" or an all-too-human agency if that's what it indeed it turns out to be. I say this because there is additional information, and the results have not only provided some answers to the things I was already researching but also cross-correlates well with the data found in other independent sources - even leading me to make several new discoveries. So, personally, what I have found in the coordinates has proven useful.

Now, having said that I leave it to others to find out who devised it and WHY - hoax or no hoax. All I am saying is that it contains additional information that has proven helpful and that it is pointing to something specific - FACT.

a reply to: Gaos0

Opinion.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No, FACT!
You have not worked it out Kev, so you are not in a position to assume that it's just an opinion of mine.
Let's put it another way. Whoever devised the code appears to be giving away secrets that have perhaps been known to a very few throughout history.
For example, I am presently working on the recent discoveries I made concerning the 'speed of light' in the dimensions of the Great Pyramid - a total of ten times (findings now endorsed by Robert Bauval, and which also includes references to pi, phi and the number 'e'), revealing that these constants are all closely related and also related to the dimensions of the Earth and the combined dimensions of the Earth and Moon. These discoveries were actually inspired by, and the results led to, by what I had already discovered during my five-year study of the seven coordinates from the binary code. Those findings will also be released soon I hope.

a reply to: Gaos0

Do you remember Hugh Trevor-Roper? The guy who authenticated the Hitler Diaries?

There may be a lesson there.

a reply to: mirageman

Really, do you think me that naive? There were things about the coordinates in the code that I couldn't explain, so that's why I carried on working on it. As I said, it got to the point where it didn't matter who devised it, although I would like to know, naturally.

a reply to: Gaos0

It think that's a question only you can answer truthfully to yourself.

a reply to: Gaos0

Ok, I am done here - and it has nothing to do with the responses, just that I am extremely busy at times. Whether those of you on here believe there is something to the code or not, it really makes no difference.
Thanks, everyone! It's mostly been a pleasure.

To me, regardless of all the mud seen in the Rendlesham incident story, is the often forgotten fact that the powers that want to keep this stuff hidden, Air Force, military in general, spend millions of dollars on "mud" and they sling it far and wide in everything. That alone doesn't mean Rendlesham was real true aliens, but it offers up the known fact that disinformation often turns every single ufo story into swamp gas and befuddled officers once entrusted with nukes and other high tech, and spits them back out as incompetent children mistaking the mundane for aliens. Which I don't buy into.

a reply to: mirageman

A very good response.

Wise words....

a reply to: Gaos0

I can't speak for anyone else. But let's just say the evidence relating to origin of the binary codes points to two things

i) Jim Penniston made them up.
ii) Someone else made them up and gave them to him to divert the Rendlesham story. To which Penniston is either a willing or unwilling participant .


If you want to ignore the following then that's your prerogative :

i) His statement (undated) from a few days after the incident states he never got within 50m of the lights. Burroughs and Cabansag who were with him saw only lights in the distance too.

ii) His notebook is dated wrongly as 27th Dec 1980 as shown in Sci-Fis "Invasion at Rendlesham Documentary". Is that because he's a complete idiot and didn't know what date it was? Was he secretly out on the night of the 27th Dec 1980 and no one else knew including Jim? Or did he actually write it in the notebook at a later date.

ii) Again in his notebook he says that there was no sign of landing gear. How then does he explain the marks in the ground later found..

iii) Penniston's story about inconspicuously making plaster casts before the police arrived at the landing site to meet Ray Gulyas and Capt Verrano is just about possible if sped home to Ipswich (20 miles away), phoned a decorator friend, got changed into civilian clothes in a few minutes, drove to his friends for the plaster, sped back to Rendlesham Forest, charged through the undergrowth to avoid anyone seeing him and dumped the plaster in the three separate holes in the ground..kept out of sight whilst they set. Then just as the Suffolk police arrives he scoops up the casts and scarpers. All within a short time frame between 8:15 and before 10:30 am on Boxing Day.

iv) In 1994 in ITVs 'Strange But True' Penniston tells us the 'craft' lifted off rapidly but he noted strange symbols on the side as it vanished. There is no mention of his notebook, having a camera with him or 'touching' a glass like craft. He does mention that he doesn't know what the glyphs meant.

v) Penniston undergoes hypnosis and is interviewed by Linda Moutlon Howe. He is unaware of a large red flag being slowly raised.

v) By early 2000 Sci-Fis "Invasion at Rendlesham" shows he's found a notebook. The problem is that the date doesn't match either of the two days he was out there! Nor does it appear to contain any binary codes. Not only that he can't actually agree where the 'craft' landed.

vi) In History's "Britain's Roswell" Penniston now tells us he walked around a craft for 45 mins. He also took some photos that didn't come out. He also made a few sketches in a dark forest. As anyone would after taking photos. Well you would wouldn't you? At this point he even shows a bit of acting skllls as well if you watch the whole show.

vii) BOOM! In 2010 he comes and reveals that he is in fact "Binary Jim" and has a message for the world......................

So resolve all those inconsistencies (and plenty of others) and you can start to de-code his binary message.

Ignore them and they will always be biting at your lowest orifice.

I hear voices but there's no one there
You speak to me in another language
Computer says it's a binary code
It's such a pity, I can't understand it........

It's not me talking...

I see a ship from a golden sky
I sent a message, will they understand it?
Computer's ready but to overload
This isn't happening the way I planned it....

I made a contact with another world
Another being from another planet
Another time and another place
Another galaxy, another planet

a reply to: mirageman
I have to give a star to the Flock Of Seagulls reference.

originally posted by: Gaos0
a reply to: Guest101

You are assuming the binary code has no merit in regard to what it contains. Again, assumption is not fact.

Here's the seven coordinates . . .

52.0942532 N 13.131269 W
16.763177 N 89.117768 W
34.800272 N 111.843567 W
29.977836 N 31.131649 E
14.701505 S 75.167043 W
36.256845 N 117.100632 E
37.110195 N 25.372281 E

The fact is the coordinates are also a code, which contains additional information.
I'd like you and others here to try and work it out.
There is nothing better than working it out yourself if you can, and seeing it.

A clue as to how to approach it has already been given.

Gary, did you ever Google ‘sacret places’?
You’ll find sites like this one, with literally hundreds of locations to pick from.

How easy would it be so select a few that form a nice pattern around the Great Pyramid, or with Hy Brazil in their centre?
Remember that Jim only ‘released’ the remaining pages with coordinates after the Hy Brazil angle came up.

So if there is a pattern in these coordinates, it doesn’t surprise me.
And no, I’m not wasting my time to reverse engineer the pattern that Jim constructed. Why would I?
I've already wasted enough of my time investigating a spectacular 45 minute investigation of a landed craft that never happened.

At MirageMan,




Gary and I were in this blog, there are 230 comments.




badufos.blogspot.co.za...




It has gone in circles constantly and we are still at the same place.




Gary has been clear that nothing matters but the findings and given

the reasons why this is. One can agree to disagree of course.

But he simply says, not to dismiss this it so easily and that

is fair enough.



From my perspective and coming from knowing Jim as I did

I am forced to question. As Gary says. I was instrumental

in this with the binary and Gary's connection with Jim.

I am certainly not interested in convincing anyone about anything.

All I am interested in, is understanding what may of occurred.

The code results are secondary for me from a personal level.

That does not mean I am been dismissive of Gary's work, how

could I be? It is I who suggested Gary to Jim and have seen a good

part of Gary's findings. I am also not dismissive of the codes, far from it.




However logic falls into place. The questions you have put there Mirageman are indeed ones which should have been easily answered long ago and more besides. Until Jim can easily answer everything and all the things which had been occurring over the years, only then can the code cipher be looked at imho with any real questions, until then the actual decoding is more or less mute. It is puzzling why things have been so difficult for Jim to answer? Perhaps Johns pending radio show about the notebook and findings could well throw out some interesting things? Just maybe they could go some way in explaining this or that ? I do not know at this point, just what have taken note of via Johns announcments,




The public are asked to believe something which ultimately comes

from very shaky grounds period. There is no way round this one. One must and should question.




Oh, and god help any women who dares to speak re the RFI and what she may know or experienced. I know the drill by now.




Then another thing to ponder. I have an interesting message from Jim, He wanted to know what I knew re Hy Brazil, if anything.

It always puzzled me how Jim and I could connect as we did and I lived in the very place which comes up in the code, close, to that mythological Island.




Another point, the code I claim to have seen when with Jim, was

much the same as when Jim told me of his dreams re 23.5 which led to Gary

What I mean by this, it came via dreaming as I mentioned in an earlier post.





Soon there will be a public statement by someone who was in contact with Jim, it will be the lady I am led to beleive Jim wrote and told about his alleged "communication" with something. Jim wrote and told me about what he had told this lady. I asked her would she verify the things told to me by Jim on the matter. She is willing to share what they had
discussed and and she would in fact write a public statement in due course about it all, they had email communication(introduction) and a very lenghty phone conversation.

There of course is much much more.

Our own connections would be "Time" technology related.




So what does all this mean? It simply means there has been much more to the situation than is generally
known that is all.




I will leave it at that. I apologise in advance. I hate typing and still figuring this ATS and how
to use it.

a reply to: Marylongstockings

Firstly I don't know a lot about Gary's other fields of study and I wish him well in his work. But I also think he should have exercised a lot more caution.

If anyone wants to study the binary codes and let others research their provenance that's their prerogative. But when the provenance is proven to be shaky (at best) by other researchers and you ignore those warnings you are wide open for criticism. And so the debate will always come back to how the codes originated not about what they reveal.

As time passes Jim Penniston's memory is becoming inversely proportional to his credibility. Perhaps Gary got too close to him to now want to question awkward inconsistencies?

Rendlesham's mythology has grown much like the Roswell story did 30 or so years ago. However it is much more open to scrutinization than Roswell was back in the day. As soon as anything 'new' is added to the RFI story it is debated around the world.

If Jim Penniston can't, or won't, answer those awkward questions about his expanded story then it leaves the whole case in danger of imploding, leaving us with another 'lights in the distance' story. Maybe that's the intention or maybe that's all it was?

52.0942532 N 13.131269 W
16.763177 N 89.117768 W
34.800272 N 111.843567 W
29.977836 N 31.131649 E
14.701505 S 75.167043 W
36.256845 N 117.100632 E
37.110195 N 25.372281 E

Gary, I just found the first pattern but you’re not going to like it:

Three sets of coordinates come from the same website, called ‘Sacred Destinations’.

A perfect match up to the last decimal for each of them – a one in a quadrillion chance:

16.763177 N 89.117768 W

www.sacred-destinations.com...
Coordinates: 16.763177° N, 89.117768° W

36.256845 N 117.100632 E

www.sacred-destinations.com...
Coordinates: 36.256845° N, 117.100632° E

37.110195 N 25.372281 E

www.sacred-destinations.com...
Coordinates: 37.110195° N, 25.372281° E

As explained earlier, the first coordinate came from Tele Atlas in 2010 and is the Woodbridge town centre.