Leading geneticist says we are a hybrid of Pigs and Chimps

Leading geneticist says we are a hybrid of Pigs and Chimps

Sorry, but no. Breeding between the porcine family tree and the primate family tree is genetically impossible. Even if a female chimp were to have come into season and displayed to a pig and mated with it (very very improbable), the chimp could not conceive from that union, no conception could occur. The genetic triggers to kick start the cellular growth process are entirely different. The pigs sperm would not fertilize the egg of the female chimp.

Nature abhors inter-species breeding and does not allow it.

reply to post by elysiumfire

Nature abhors inter-species breeding and does not allow it.

Erm. Not true. Many examples, here are two.

Hybrids between common and Antarctic minke whales are fertile and can back-cross

This study clearly demonstrates, for the first time, that hybrids between minke whale species may be fertile, and that they can back-cross. Whether contact between these species represents a contemporary event linked with documented recent changes in the Antarctic ecosystem, or has occurred at a low frequency over many years, remains open.

A NEW HYBRID BETWEEN A BLUE WHALE, BALAENOPTERA MUSCULUS, AND A FIN WHALE, B. PHYSALUS: FREQUENCY AND IMPLICATIONS OF HYBRIDIZATION

…Either species may act as father or mother, and there does not appear to be a selection for a given sex among the hybrids. The reproductive capacity of these hybrids remains unknown, although incidence of reproductive impairment appears to be higher in hybrid males than in hybrid females.

Also of interest:

Cross-Domain

…the Mv1751 gene was able to complement an essential gene in another domain of life. It is rare to find two genes from different domains of life, especially essential genes, that are interchangeable. Because of the conservation of many aspects of the N-linked glycosylation systems in bacteria, archaea, and eukaryotes, the deciphering of the roles and interchangeability of various components may be advanced by consideration of the use of cross-domain complementation.

Cross-Kingdom

Putative cross-kingdom horizontal gene transfer in sponge (Porifera) mitochondria

…We suggest that the horizontal gene transfer of a mitochondrial intron was facilitated by a symbiotic relationship between fungus and sponge. Ecological relationships are known to have implications at the genomic level. Here, an ecological relationship between sponge and fungus is suggested based on the genomic analysis.

Polypurine (A)-rich sequences promote cross-kingdom conservation of internal ribosome entry

…Presumably, such IRES elements can overcome kingdom-specific barriers to translation of the second gene because of their unique capability to exploit only those translation initiation factors and noncanonical transacting proteins that are able to express their function universally in different types of cell. It is possible that the ribosome per se, as the most conserved element of the eukaryotic translation apparatus, is responsible for cross-kingdom IRES activity.

…Analysis of European Molecular Biology Laboratory databases showed that the 5′UTRs of numerous cellular mRNAs contain PARSs that could be regarded as putative plant IRESs. Our preliminary results indicate that two additional mRNAs of this type, i.e., those encoding the tobacco poly(A)-binding protein (43) and 48-kDa mitogen-activated protein kinase (44), also promote internal translation. The approach could thus be used to identify IRES elements in eukaryotic genomes.

A bacterial cell–cell communication signal with cross-kingdom structural analogues

Extracellular signals are the key components of microbial cell–cell communication systems. … As prokaryote–eukaryote interactions are ubiquitous, such cross-kingdom conservation in cell–cell communication systems might have significant ecological and economic importance.

Cross-Phylum

Cross-phylum regulatory potential of the ascidian Otx gene in brain development in Drosophila melanogaster.

The origin of molecular mechanisms of cephalic development is an intriguing question in evolutionary and developmental biology. …These results support the notion that basal chordates such as ascidians have the same molecular patterning mechanism for the anterior structures found in higher chordates, and suggest a common genetic program of cephalic development in invertebrate, protochordate and vertebrate.

Conserved genetic programs in insect and mammalian brain development

These studies also show that the genes of the otd/Otx family can functionally replace each other in cross-phylum rescue experiments and indicate that the genetic mechanisms underlying pattern formation in insect and mammalian brain development are evolutionarily conserved.

…a novel family of proteins of presumably nuclear localization, with a characteristic highly basic motif, KRR-R, transcends various phyla, and plays an important role in cellular processes. We propose to call this essential gene KRR1.

Cross-Class

To hard to search quickly due to over-abundance of research reports on genetic modification.

Cross-Order

CRISPR loci reveal networks of gene exchange in archaea

Spacers reveal gene transfer events across species boundaries

….This work demonstrates that there is much gene exchange within and between archaeal genera, and that anti-viral spacers, especially cross-protective ones, are preferentially retained. While the primary role of CRISPR/Cas systems appears to be to provide immunity against invading DNA, many spacers that are acquired can target ran- dom, presumably harmless, genes, just as vertebrate immune systems often recognize harmless antigens.

Phage
So, did the chimp rape the pig or vice versa?

That's what I came to ask!

Did the chimp hump the pig or did the pig hump the chimp? Either way, I bet that was a disturbing site.

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Bottom pg 9 for the answer.

Brings me to mind of the whole Humanzee flap in the 70s with Oliver

Oliver the "Humanzee"

How both relate is the moral something-or-other (i'd know the word but the Hashimoto's is really kicking my ass right now, so the brain's a bit fuzzy) that can come with trying to recreate the hybrids?

Basically it's okay if you found a way to make hybrid embryos, but god forbid it comes to term and lives, you have people shouting mad science six ways to Sunday.

Though, I would like to see geneticists try to prove that we are monkey pig spawn through one way or another.

I read an article somewhere where they interviewed a few people who actually ate humans and had them describe what the meat tasted like. They all said it tasted very close to pork.

Another point is that in medical school they always point out the close similarities between pigs and humans. As a fetus they are almost indistinguishable.



If I were to respect this doctor's findings - I would not say OP's idea is that far fetched - to speculate that an alien race hybridized some new being from pigs, primates and even themselves. For what?

Well look what they have now - Earths resources - minerals accumulated and collected together in clumps. Paved roads, internet, etc. Better than what any robots can do.. took quite a while though. Maybe they're patient.


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daryllyn
Does this mean I am part bacon?

WHOA!!!!!

You just blew my mind!!!!

If this turns out to be true does that mean Jews and Muslims wont be able to touch themselves ...

So what?
It's no big deal as most religions already prohibit such behavior.

Harte

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If I were to respect this doctor's findings - I would not say OP's idea is that far fetched - to speculate that an alien race hybridized some new being from pigs, primates and even themselves. For what?

Literally, earth school is for many diverse cycles of humans, and the universe for this as well.

We weren't taken out of animal DNA, they came from the shared soup of ours and were designed to interact with us, ie. for organs, for food, for medicine, for companionship, for progression.

That some people do things careless of dignity and pain, instead of carefully, is on them. For there are always better ways to manage earth, with sensitivity.

However, human never came from animal, animals aren't more important than human. This is literally our testing ground, school. And there is a very twisted up group here on earth amongst the mismanagers, the ones I now think of nardee's as opposed to us, the narders who need to nard them, who are following the renegades, Murderers of old, and do dark hat ceremonies, and rituals and are trying to downgrade earth constantly.

By the sounds of this, these scientists are either overtly working for them or doing so without their knowledge and furthering this agenda.

IkNOwSTuff

daryllyn
Does this mean I am part bacon?

WHOA!!!!!

You just blew my mind!!!!

If this turns out to be true does that mean Jews and Muslims wont be able to touch themselves or anyone else?

Religious implications could be huge

And the christians will now become the sons and daughters of Ham?

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A monkey and a pig? Seriously? How's that even possible lol? So let me guess the monkey was like oh me have sex with anything and chases down a pig and couple months later a hybrid is born and has more offspring with it's own bloodline. Nah sorry you couldn't pay me to believe it.

Or all the pigs and monkeys met up in Europe as a big sex party and decided to give birth to a new race.

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

The hubby and I wonder what Eugene McCarthy would think of this:we have noticed that when we feel a bit sickish or unwell,and we eat bacon,it actually physically make us feel better,with the "boost" it gives us,lasting into the next day.Quite side from bacon being the most delicious thing on the planet,and most folks love it just for the taste-the hubby+i will sometimes feel:"Our bodies need bacon again" This is even at times when we don't particularly feel like just getting the taste of bacon,its like we need the boost our bodies get from consuming something porcine.Odd,eh?
So then we fix us some bacon+have just that,just the bacon,almost like a tonic,I guess would be accurateto say.We are not a family who eats bacon more than once a week,usually in pasta or potato bakes,or on evenings when we have "breakfast for dinner"-very popular with the kids,seeing there is never time for a cooked breakfast,they have cereal in the mornings

So I wonder,aside from the splendiferous taste,has anyone noticed a health boost when eating bacon in a "therapeutic" way,like we do?

human DNA was added to the pigs

'It is basically a human-pig, a hybrid, or whatever you want to call it. 'It is about whether the community is prepared to accept a part human, part animal.'

Pig's anatomy is close to human anatomy, it is becoming more common to
have heart valves from a pig to be used in transplants.

-pig-valve-transplants
-Sci/Tech Pig transplants
-news/article

(main reason why I get grossed out about pork, it is said that pork and
human flesh are so much alike)


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Well I guess this gives a whole new slant to the story of Adam and Eve as the origin of the human species. I'll never be able to eat spare ribs again!

You know the whole thing sounds so crazy I can almost believe it but would like to think that the pig/chimp sex thing was consenting!

Actually! Come to think about it, some humans have been known to have sex with farmyard animals so is it so impossible that a chimp might do the same?

Fylgje

Phage
So, did the chimp rape the pig or vice versa?

That's what I came to ask!

Did the chimp hump the pig or did the pig hump the chimp? Either way, I bet that was a disturbing site.

Or then perhaps neither since both human mitochondrial DNA (maternal lineage marker) and Y-chromosomal DNA (paternal lineage marker) are way more similar to chimps than to pigs. This is, again, something anyone can verify themselves. Full related nucleotide sequences can be retrieved from the links below:

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I made a simple tree from the mtDNA sequences based on multiple sequence alignment and average nucleotide identity. Oddly enough, chimp and human differ from pig the exact same amount:

Erm. Not true. Many examples, here are two.

Closely related species with recent common shared ancestry only like lions and tigers, differing whale species etc. Basically evolutionary recent cousins can reproduce, which is good for both species as it introduces diversity into their genepools. However, pigs and chimps ARE NOT close at all. The last common ancestor/example of cross breeding with ancient huans with chimps is about 7 million years ago, we are not capable of offspring AFA we know. Pigs and chimps have a massive amount of time between them. To think they could cross breed is ludicrous. Genetic and behavioural differences just make the whole idea majorly ridiculous.

Having said that, closley related species hybridise consistently to create new species.

Some biologists estimate that as many as 10 percent of animal species and up to 25 percent of plant species may occasionally breed with another species.

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we are animals too,on equal footing as far as i'm concerned.an earth without ants and worms would be desolation.my dog learnt to warn and protect me from epilepsy before any human had diagnosed it,his kin can diagnose cancers,find drugs,dead bodies.they all have their own language.without them,no sonar,radar.now we treat them as organ donors and far worse.if earth is a school,(i'm open to all possibilitis) then we've created hell on earth.

I don't know much about chimpanzees, but we use to raise pigs. I see pig behavior in humans all the time. Wall Street reminds me of pigs feeding at the trough.

[forget it]

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Well they do call people "long pigs".

The only thing ridiculous about this assertion is that it somehow happened naturally. If it happened at all it happened in a lab.