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luciddream
reply to post by undo
no i'm talking about radicals like the bolsheviks, pol pot and company, mao and company, castro and company, people who, because they believed that humans are simply animals,
You look like another parrot preaching those awfully wrong debate words.
This goes for you and other parrots that use this stupid phrase over and over again on ATS.
Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin DID NOT KILL in the name of Atheism. It was a political move to keep their dictatorship, they did not want any outside religion influencing their power.
Atheism means having NO belief in such things.
wildtimes
Are you familiar with "DEISM"? Have you read Thomas Paine? Jefferson's Bible? ANYTHING besides the 'Holy Bible' in some random English-language version that is 'preferred' by your particular denomination?
Reading that is what convinced me that Jefferson was actually an atheist rather than a deist - it ends on a note of utter hopelessness, not a very deistic notion.
Whatever his religion
Grimpachi
It is in the OP. A lone sentence so it stands out.
They spent nothing.
Bedlam
Grimpachi
It is in the OP. A lone sentence so it stands out.
They spent nothing.
But, surely they could have sold that space for profit instead, and donated the money to an atheist charity that only delivered practical items?
Speaking of LUDICROUS . . .
something totally devoid of any sort of SACRED FOUNDATION
somehow ends up with a SACRED value.
THAT'S as absurd of pretending that Creation sprang from CHANCE PLUS TIME--in far too little time, as well--ONLY.
Yet you accuse Christians etc. of ludicrous notions.
when folks throw God on the trash heap . . . they end up God-izing
Nature . . . with a capital N.
Christ the Founder of Christianity made clear that words were cheap.
IF you think Hitler did the will of God
Are you really that . . . secluded in a deep dark cave somewhere?
Do you REALLY expect rational, aware, observant, informed, educated, bright folks to BELIEVE that?
Atheism has a whole host of dogma riding with a death-grip on it's coattails inherently part and parcel of the RELIGION of atheism.
Grimpachi
Did you find a source saying they owned it? Not good enough that it was free huh? I didn't know this was a hen house.
Bedlam
Grimpachi
It is in the OP. A lone sentence so it stands out.
They spent nothing.
But, surely they could have sold that space for profit instead, and donated the money to an atheist charity that only delivered practical items?
Grimpachi
reply to post by Bedlam
Well if you had read the thread you would have seen I already covered your little attempt.
Bedlam
reply to post by whitewave
I guess that's my point. If you've got a better alternative, then advertise it. "We deliver a higher percentage of your charitable dollar to the victims WITHOUT the religious overhead!" would be fine, if true.
But "Don't give any money to religious charities because we don't like religion and they're spending some of your money on RELIGION! We don't have an alternative, so we'd rather they starve than become religious!" just doesn't have the same moral snap.
Grimpachi
Your ship is double sunk.
why don't one of the atheists in the thread play the "devil's advocate" and make a valiant effort to defend it,
Pope Francis pleaded for aid for the survivors in the Philippines when he said, "Sadly, there are many, many victims and the damage is huge. Let's try to provide concrete help."