Does anyone know what has happened in NM?

reply to post by Riffrafter


Interesting video, thanks for the link.
Although that fire ball occurred on the 19th and the TFR was issued on the 22nd. The all sky camera that caught the fire ball was in the Albuquerque area and it looks like the moon in the left of the image, so that gives the object in the video a west to east trajectory, away from the GPS coordinates of the TFR.
The object in the video must have a fairly shallow entry angle to be lit up for that long over that much of the sky (look like over 100 degrees) but the flashing and variable in its brightness in very typical of tumbling rocks entering the atmosphere.

reply to post by AFewGoodWomen


Thanks for the many leads.
Searching them out, unfortunately I couldn't find anything that pointed in the direction of what ever happened on the 22nd to warrant the TFR.
The closest UFO reports from the provided link are from the 19th and 15th respectively.
The missile launch vapor trails in the linked photos are from a missile test conducted in late Sept. from Whit Sands.
SPC Alverez and PFC Hostetter were killed in an IED attack in Afghanistan on Aug. 23rd.
Apparently the road closured were due to a traffic accident and fatalities west of Roswell, 200+ miles to the east of the TFR.

reply to post by Zaphod58


I'm with you here. A mystery about military aircraft and subsequent cover-up is like an itch you can never reach. A void of info that yearns to be filled.

I was kind of hoping someone that lives in the area could take a drive over there to see if any evidence of vehicle traffic or anything else could be ascertained as to what happened and verify the story details.

P.S. Zaph, are you able to disclose whether there were any fatalities in the incident? The lack of fatalities might be an indication of an un-manned program?

reply to post by Sammamishman


If you read certain NOTAMs for the area you'll find clues.

reply to post by Zaphod58


TR-3A...... or are those retired yet?

reply to post by Sammamishman


Oh God don't get me started on those.

reply to post by Zaphod58

Hmm, interesting.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Thanks for that, although admittedly I'm a little ignorant on how to read and decipher the acronyms of NOTAM's as I am not a pilot.
Any particular ones you can point to?

reply to post by Sammamishman


Any of the airports in the White Sands area.

Zaphod58
reply to post by Sammamishman

 

Any of the airports in the White Sands area.

Time frame?

reply to post by weavty1


Any time around the date of the accident.

This is interesting. That is nearly the exact position where I saw my first and only UFO on a flight from Chicago to LA in 2006. Maybe we were slightly closer to Oklahoma but this spot is definitely on our flightpath.

I'm not a big UFO alien contact type, I simply saw something that defies explanation, hence UFO.

I assumed experimental aircraft.

Within 5 minutes of seeing the UFO below us, a large military aircraft passed directly over our head to where I could read the numbers on the tail. It was spewing a large "vapor trail" in it's wake and our paths crossed directly over our head. Unreal experience! It was a huge distraction to what I had just seen below.

I've never shared this story online before because there are so many just like mine out there.

reply to post by Zaphod58

The unmanned acft NOTAM's?

Zaphod58
reply to post by Sammamishman

 

Oh God don't get me started on those.

I hope you're joking? Hahaha

reply to post by Sammamishman



I actually put that up there before I had even started looking into this a little deeper as it had crossed my desk earlier and I remembered the location and timing of this "meteor" footage and thought it was a curious coincidence considering the secretive nature of the event/incident in question.

One thing I've learned is that when you're first starting out trying to get to the bottom of something like this it's good to cast as wide a net as possible at first and then narrow your efforts based on the information you receive. Since I was planning on pursuing different avenues of inquiry I was hoping someone would look into this further to see if there was anything there.

And besides, I hate co-inky-dinks...

Final note on this - your analysis looks solid - thanks. It's probably unrelated and we need to look elsewhere for answers.

I've also got a few follow-up questions based on info in some of your other posts. I'll ask in response to those to keep this post short.

reply to post by weavty1


That was a "I'm going to go beat my head against the nearest brick wall, before putting it in the microwave" post.

reply to post by Zaphod58

Bahahahahahahaha!!!

Too good!!!

reply to post by Sammamishman


Sorry none of the links added up...I didn't take enough time to research them thoroughly. My google-fu is lagging.
I hope you get answers...one day.



Anyway...I think the container route would be your best option...honestly.
Nuclear fuel is the one thing that keeps coming to mind when I think about the area being cordoned off...
that, and there might be sensitive tech still on the ground that has yet to be removed due to hazards...
I won't even try to elude what type of aircraft it was...as aviation is not my forte, however, I do love to see our birds fly.

reply to post by AFewGoodWomen

The NOTAM/TFR for the 'crash site' has been lifted, so it's possible that whatever is/was on the ground, is no longer there.

reply to post by weavty1


They generally don't leave the big pieces around long. They'll be there awhile cleaning up the little pieces.