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Wookiep
opethPA
Wookiep
reply to post by opethPA
As long as it helps you sleep at night, go ahead and believe the right choice was made by the cops. I would at the least encourage you to not ignore the fact that what the media reported initially and never even denied now was totally false. This fact alone should be raising a lot of question in that mind of yours.
It's funny because I don't think I have seen one post where I said this lady deserved to die or saying they made the right choice. What i said was the people on the ground acted on what they saw in front of them and that one person caused this problem.
Ok, that's fine. I barely even talked about that in my last reply, feel however you want to feel about it.
Sorry I am not part of the ATS , "only the govt can do bad things" crowd. ON a daily basis people make dumb, dangerous, horrible , crazy, violent choices.
This lady made them and she paid the ultimate prices for her actions.
I take issue with this though, because I mentioned the media but we could go down a big rabbit hole and discuss government conspiracies but you aren't in that "crowd". What I'm concerned with, when I see these types of replies is the fact that you totally missed the false reporting by the media, not just 1 false report, MULTIPLE false reports. That doesn't get your wheels turning at all? Instead, you push all that aside and come on here wanting to argue just to argue?edit on 3-10-2013 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)
Bigburgh
ThePublicEnemyNo1
JBA2848
reply to post by Bigburgh
Mirian Carey also goes by Miriam Carey.
Strange thing is this was her boss.
Lieutenant Commander Evans
hamden.patch.com...
Hamden periodontist Brian L. Evans, D.D.S., M.S. was honored by the United States Navy earlier this month for completion of five years of reserve duty after his initial 3 years active duty.
Among the decorations Lieutenant Commander Evans earned and received was the National Defense Service Ribbon and Commendation Medal. Presented by Admiral Cullison in 2007 was the Commendation Medal for his meritorious service in the superior performance of his duties as a staff periodontist while serving active duty in Norfolk, VA July, 2004 through July, 2007.
edit on 3-10-2013 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)
So do you think there's a connection? I'm trying to understand what her boss may have to do with any of this. Or we're you just making mention?
Woah! I actually see where is going now.
Thank much again.
ThePublicEnemyNo1
opethPA
ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by opethPA
That was so incredibly unnecessary especially, since I was not talking to you nor did I ask your opinion or care for it.
Kick rocks and start chaos somewhere else.
eh..I am sure everyone who got an NDSM and was insulted by your post felt the same way..
Oh i forgot ..a dentist can't get one.
By the way what ignorance is that?edit on 3-10-2013 by opethPA because: (no reason given)
First of all, I never said a dentist could not receive this ribbon. I have never heard of it.
Like I said...kick rocks, grow up and mind your business, I wasn't responding to you nor do I appreciate your vitriotic language.
Highground
reply to post by ownbestenemy
If I'm surrounded by cops in front of the United States Capitol after I just got chased from a White House checkpoint by secret service and Capitol Police... I'd probably not make any sudden moves and keep my hands visible.
She was running from police after allegedly trying to enter the White House, and was driving at 80mph towards the Capitol. At one point, she was right in front of the Capitol.
Their first option was also not to engage her. It was to pursue her and try to resolve the situation.
She made the decision to escalate past that point when she rammed the police car, almost ran over police that surrounded her car, and continued to run.
ThePublicEnemyNo1
opethPA
ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by opethPA
That was so incredibly unnecessary especially, since I was not talking to you nor did I ask your opinion or care for it.
Kick rocks and start chaos somewhere else.
eh..I am sure everyone who got an NDSM and was insulted by your post felt the same way..
Oh i forgot ..a dentist can't get one.
By the way what ignorance is that?edit on 3-10-2013 by opethPA because: (no reason given)
First of all, I never said a dentist could not receive this ribbon. I have never heard of it.
Like I said...kick rocks, grow up and mind your business, I wasn't responding to you nor do I appreciate your vitriotic language.
JBA2848
reply to post by ValentineWiggin
That video is the second time she was stopped. And then the short chase to where she was shot and her car rolled to a stop.
Wookiep
reply to post by opethPA
I'm glad at least you see the false reporting that went on. I'm cool with the fact that you have the opinion the lady caused her own demise, it's just you've expressed it multiple times and in a provocative manner. Personally, I didn't feel suspicious about this event until the media gave me about 10 reasons to be. I really thought this was a crazy lady blah blah blah until I realized the media was falsely reporting how this went down in the first place.edit on 3-10-2013 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)
opethPA
ThePublicEnemyNo1
opethPA
ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by opethPA
That was so incredibly unnecessary especially, since I was not talking to you nor did I ask your opinion or care for it.
Kick rocks and start chaos somewhere else.
eh..I am sure everyone who got an NDSM and was insulted by your post felt the same way..
Oh i forgot ..a dentist can't get one.
By the way what ignorance is that?edit on 3-10-2013 by opethPA because: (no reason given)
First of all, I never said a dentist could not receive this ribbon. I have never heard of it.
Like I said...kick rocks, grow up and mind your business, I wasn't responding to you nor do I appreciate your vitriotic language.
Fair enough..you never said a dentist could not receive that ribbon and since you never heard of it, why even mention it at all then because by your own admission you were not qualified to discuss the requirements for it,.
Please indicate what vitriolic language I used unless you mean something like this, "A dentist! Wtf...did he save many lives? " which I actually didn't say.
ownbestenemy
reply to post by ownbestenemy
And that is you. You are not her. You were not in her situation. Hell, you were not in that situation. I would like to think that most people would be as you described above, but alas, we are not robots. We all react differently.
Pure speculation on the first part. We don't know the context of her attempt or possibly wrong turn in regards to the checkpoint that was 300 yards from the actual gate to the White House.
They escallated that quite quickly according to the available video. Once stopped the first time, they all had guns drawn and then began shooting as if they were in Fast and Furious at a speeding car...sounds responsible to me.
I have never claimed that she is not a player here too; I am merely offering that we do not have; nor will we ever have; her side of the story. Ever. You are seemingly okay with that because in your mind, the end justifies the means even though you have speculated that end.
ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Thank you, I have never heard of this ribbon before. By the time I was born in 1970, my father had already served and he didn't speak much about his time in the military.
ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by Highground
Maybe some of the members around here including you, should read posts a little more thoroughly. I said nothing that was offensive to anyone who ever served in the military. I stated that I had never heard of this ribbon and since my father was a Vietnam Vet/Green Beret, that aye I should make sure he received one.
Take from that what you want, but please read carefully before you jump on the "she's ignorant" bandwagon.edit on 10/3/13 by ThePublicEnemyNo1 because: (no reason given)
A dentist! Wtf...did he save many lives?