BREAKING: US Capitol locked down after reports of shots fired near the West Front

Highground
reply to post by itsmethegoat

 

Nearly every report says it started because of a verbal altercation at a White House checkpoint. You're the one saying this sort of thing isn't irregular.. That's not a theory about the situation - that's claiming this sort of thing isn't irregular.

edit on 3-10-2013 by Highground because: (no reason given)

I'm saying running from law enforcement isn't an uncommon event. I watched different news channels for about an hour and a half earlier today and heard nor saw anything suggesting a verbal altercation. As I said earlier, I was under the impression this all started from this woman firing 4 shots around Capitol Hill. Other's aren't claiming the same so I'm speculating off what I am reading. The early reports made it seem like she was the one who opened fire. I'm not discrediting anyone else's opinions or theories on this matter. I was simply saying that killing this woman wasn't a good call, in my opinion.

Helious
Here is a news flash, the women was unarmed, with her one year old child, didn't know what to do or acted incorrectly at a fascist checkpoint, was chased, gunned down in front of her child and this was all done too thunderous applause because we have such brave heroes who protect our criminal government.

Bravo America, another domestic terrorist down! Pathetic.

Yes, the applause were disgusting, two standing ovations in congress, hello?

But we know how out of touch they are.

Helious
Here is a news flash, the women was unarmed, with her one year old child, didn't know what to do or acted incorrectly at a fascist checkpoint, was chased, gunned down in front of her child and this was all done too thunderous applause because we have such brave heroes who protect our criminal government.

Bravo America, another domestic terrorist down! Pathetic.

At this point your theory is plausible and quite frankly, possible. When working the gate at a military base we had a truck pull up with a family inside. As being near the Mexican border and they looking Hispanic, they freaked and drove straight onto the base. Luckily the incident ended in nothing more than a call to ICE and not the death of 3 kids and their parents.

Coming upon a checkpoint, in a different city, can be nerve racking. People barking commands at you...yelling to stop...questioning you...it can lead to a point where your natural fight or flight takes over. It is beginning to look like this ladies flight instincts (especially since she had a child in the back seat) took over and she ran.

That is how it looks to me at least.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Yeah I'm diving off into the deep end with this one too, you aren't alone in this

Stormdancer777

Helious
Here is a news flash, the women was unarmed, with her one year old child, didn't know what to do or acted incorrectly at a fascist checkpoint, was chased, gunned down in front of her child and this was all done too thunderous applause because we have such brave heroes who protect our criminal government.

Bravo America, another domestic terrorist down! Pathetic.

Yes, the applause were disgusting, two standing ovations in congress, hello?

But we know how out of touch they are.

Oh and they had buttons nearly readily available to hand out too....not to sound crazy but really? You keep a stock of buttons that thank the local metro police?

Crazy lady endangering her child? False flag? Not really sure, although I am thinking the prior, not the latter. But I'll wait for further facts before deciding.

But the most amazing thing to me is how you folks.. the supposed bastion of critical thinking while unraveling conspiracies, jump to immediate conclusions before even a fraction of the actual facts are known. You have drawn up your arguments and stated your stance before an actual lawful determination can even begin to be made on the situation. There is no way possible with the few facts released to determine the reasoning, motives, or anything else. But people here are willing to condemn and fling blame and hate and preconceived ideology and opinions as if they were privy to the incident before it even happened.

America is in a sad state? Want a reason why? Look in a mirror, for those whom this would apply.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


It's gone beyond that. The police force is militarized. The lack of prosecution for criminal negligence, dereliction of duty and murder are wholly absent from the repretra of internal law enforcement investigations involving wrongful death.

The media, so quick to portray the story in it's owners political favor will report anything, truth has very little to absolutely no meaning because they understand the attention span of the average American. They report the message they want to get out while people are watching and forming opinion and quietly retract it later, fully understanding that those that catch the errors will be less than the people who have already received the message and switched off.

All of it, is enough. Simply enough. It's criminal, it's obvious and it's time for a change.

reply to post by ownbestenemy


And then the police finally stop her, so you ram their car and almost run over a few of them in an attempt to keep fleeing? They didn't just open up on her at the checkpoint. They didn't just open up on her when she stopped. It was only after she was displaying a flagrant disregard for human lives that she was fired upon.

reply to post by Zanti Misfit


Thanks for sharing, it makes plenty of sense to me actually. What bothers me the most is how at first it was reported that she was shooting at police etc, when clearly from the video there were no shots fired from her car...

reply to post by Helious


A checkpoint guarding the house of the president is now "fascist".

LOL.

Highground
reply to post by ownbestenemy

 

And then the police finally stop her, so you ram their car and almost run over a few of them in an attempt to keep fleeing? They didn't just open up on her at the checkpoint. They didn't just open up on her when she stopped. It was only after she was displaying a flagrant disregard for human lives that she was fired upon.

When your flight instinct is in full force what do you think you would do? You just fled a scene and now you are being chased, not sure what is going on....

So in your mind...just open fire. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan.

reply to post by Wookiep


That would be "haze of war" type reporting going on. They didn't have that video until well after anything happened. There were shots, police were involved. It's logical to think there was a gunfight. Does that excuse sloppy reporting? Nope. But I can also guarantee they're not going to just sit there and say "We don't know what's going on" for the first hour and a half of a breaking news story.

fleabit
Crazy lady endangering her child? False flag? Not really sure, although I am thinking the prior, not the latter. But I'll wait for further facts before deciding.

But the most amazing thing to me is how you folks.. the supposed bastion of critical thinking while unraveling conspiracies, jump to immediate conclusions before even a fraction of the actual facts are known. You have drawn up your arguments and stated your stance before an actual lawful determination can even begin to be made on the situation. There is no way possible with the few facts released to determine the reasoning, motives, or anything else. But people here are willing to condemn and fling blame and hate and preconceived ideology and opinions as if they were privy to the incident before it even happened.

America is in a sad state? Want a reason why? Look in a mirror, for those whom this would apply.

Says the person who started out with the words "Crazy lady" because the msm and shills already associated that description with her when we don't know anything about her yet. There are either more shills on this board than I recall or people are lapping up propaganda and brainwashing like sugar. Look around and notice how many times you have seen the words "crazy lady" used.

Ridiculous.

reply to post by ValentineWiggin


Both. Shills and spreading propaganda...they're everywhere.

ETA
Not to mention, they have obviously formed an opinion although reserving judgement. Crazy lady? I guess the rest of us are not entitled to an opinion

I saw a woman act erratic like that once and it was over a man. No one got hurt though, no children or police were involved and it was a Porche not an Infiniti.

reply to post by ownbestenemy


If I'm surrounded by cops in front of the United States Capitol after I just got chased from a White House checkpoint by secret service and Capitol Police... I'd probably not make any sudden moves and keep my hands visible.

It seems like a lot of people forget the context of the situation. This wasn't a lady that was involved in a police chase in suburban Connecticut. She was running from police after allegedly trying to enter the White House, and was driving at 80mph towards the Capitol. At one point, she was right in front of the Capitol.

Their first option was also not to engage her. It was to pursue her and try to resolve the situation. She made the decision to escalate past that point when she rammed the police car, almost ran over police that surrounded her car, and continued to run.

Highground
reply to post by Helious

 

A checkpoint guarding the house of the president is now "fascist".

LOL.

Do you have any research under your belt regarding checkpoint legality, precedence or occurrence in America? I can assure you that I do, a whole bunch. This wasn't a checkpoint guarding "the house" of the POTUS. Your LOL is evidence of your ignorance.

Your inference of what that checkpoint was there to do is inaccurate and I'm being nice in that regard. Get your facts straight before you start using words you don't fully understand, like fascist.

reply to post by Highground


It used to be that journalists would gather facts first before assigning blame and pointing fingers at whodunnit in these types of cases. They used to say "there is an ongoing investigation". We don't hear that anymore in ANY cases like this, we already know whodunnit before the accused is even found/shot/captured etc! I understand the "haze" but to outright make up lies and decide someone is shooting at cops when they aren't?? Holy corruption Batman.

Edit: If this lady survived, she would never see the light of day because the media already had her pegged and manipulated public opinion before her day in court would have even started.

HeliousDo you have any research under your belt regarding checkpoint legality, precedence or occurrence in America? I can assure you that I do, a whole bunch. This wasn't a checkpoint guarding "the house" of the POTUS. Your LOL is evidence of your ignorance.

Your inference of what that checkpoint was there to do is inaccurate and I'm being nice in that regard. Get your facts straight before you start using words you don't fully understand, like fascist.

I will tell you that it's not an illegal checkpoint when it's preventing access to restricted areas. It's not a checkpoint installed on a thoroughfare, designed to screen ordinary citizens. It's a checkpoint designed to keep ordinary citizens out. But you knew this, right?

And the White House is no longer the house of the President? Since when? I must have missed that change.

This was posted on zero hedge which I thought is pertinent, if this has already been posted, moderators please remove.

I apologize for pasting this, for some reason my link wouldn't work.




Wednesday, October 2, 2013
Mayor Gray Opens New Police Tactical Training Facility
New Site to Host Realistic Simulations for Training MPD Recruits and Current Officers

(WASHINGTON, DC) – Mayor Vincent C. Gray and other District officials today held a ribbon-cutting ceremony to open the Metropolitan Police Department’s (MPD) new Tactical Training Facility, located at 4665 Blue Plains Drive SW. The facility was constructed by the Department of General Services (DGS) on the grounds of the old MPD shooting range and is designed for training of new recruits and officers.

“This facility will help our police recruits and officers train to respond to emergency situations in settings that realistically recreate conditions they would find in our urban environment,” Mayor Gray said. “This is a crucial facility that will help our MPD officers keep us safe.”

The project included the construction of two new structures, the Gas House and the Tactical Village. The Gas House is a single-story, 1,000-square-foot structure that will be used to train officers and recruits on the use of tear gas, pepper spray and other MPD non-lethal ordnance. The Tactical Village is a 40 foot-tall, pre-engineered metal building that houses a realistic representation of an urban environment. It includes an entry street, a main street, a cross street and two alleyways. This four-block village contains five training modules designed to emulate different tactical scenarios that a police officer may face while on duty, as well as a four-story rappelling tower. It also included the renovation of an existing structure to be used as the administrative offices.

“Our new Tactical Training Facility will help us provide state-of-the-art training to recruits and continuing education for current MPD officers in an environment that closely simulates what they might encounter in the real world,” said MPD Chief Cathy Lanier.

“Our security teams face a daunting and ever-changing challenge, and this simulated environment allows everyone from new recruits to seasoned veterans to hone their skills,” said DGS Director Brian Hanlon.