Pilot admits chemtrails and says they are a "necessary evil"........

OneFreeMan

mrthumpy

OneFreeMan

mrthumpy

OneFreeMan

mrthumpy

OneFreeMan

They are blocking off the sun as they are spraying predominantly
in the southern aspect of the sky.

Stop being so self-centred, maybe they're blocking off the Northern sky for someone else.

Ummm, where is 'your' sun located in the sky just after midday mrthumpy?

Where would those trails be to someone standing 100 miles to your south? Think about it.

It is a localised effort. Their area is being sprayed also.
Is the midday sun in the northern sky for them? Think about it.

I see them right now laying trail after trail in front of the sun.
They are ruining what would otherwise have been a beautiful day,
necessary evil or not.

edit on 19-11-2013 by OneFreeMan because: (no reason given)

No the sun isn't in their northern sky but the trails you're seeing to your south would be. Therefore the trails are only blocking the sun from where you are not from where they are. Someone standing 100 miles to your north wouldn't see the trails at all.

Oh, you were seriously requesting that simple a consideration? I didn't realise.
Included in my answer is your answer. The trails in my portion of the sky are
localised to me and cover at max probably 10 to 15 miles north through south,
either direction, from my vantage point. Obviously someone 100 miles to my south
wouldn't be experiencing the same skies as me. But that doesn't mean that they don't
(and I know they do) experience their own private planes laying trails to block out
the sun in their southern sky.

maybe instead of writing self-centred you should have written sun-centred?

So it was your turn that day. Is there some sort of rota for sun blocking?

OneFreeMan

Oh, you were seriously requesting that simple a consideration? I didn't realise.
Included in my answer is your answer. The trails in my portion of the sky are
localised to me and cover at max probably 10 to 15 miles north through south,
either direction, from my vantage point. Obviously someone 100 miles to my south
wouldn't be experiencing the same skies as me. But that doesn't mean that they don't
(and I know they do) experience their own private planes laying trails to block out
the sun in their southern sky.

Yes it does - you can see what is in the sky at 30,000 feet altitude 100 miles away - and by your own description there isn't anything there - it is all centered over you.

So they are NOT experiencing their own "private" blockage at all.

Perhaps if you moved 100 miles you wouldn't either.

OneFreeMan
So how is this a hoax?
The same way sandyhook conspiracy is a ludicrous online lie, I suppose!

Chemtrails are a reality and what the guy said, with permission
to film or not, is true.
There are No grounds for calling the whole thread a hoax,
and it is a shame and disgrace.

I echo your sentiments, I cannot fathom how this can be labelled a hoax unless someone can prove the whole thing was staged, with a fake plane, passengers, crew and pilots - seems like kind of a stretch. I guess the word "hoax" has some kind of esoteric meaning at ATS which is different from the way most other people use it.

OneFreeMan

OneManArmy

waynos
reply to post by OneManArmy

 

Well, you see, on that score we aren't that far apart at all. I've often said (and I'm sorry that I wasn't in the mood to offer more challenging posts this time around, but I do get fed up of repetition and lack the patience of some others) that the *only* point I will dig my heels in and argue against are the claims that aircraft contrails are a deliberate spraying operation, or at least peoples certainty of it. The rest of it I am open to, but silliness like that just flabbers my ghast.

Incidentally, I too was taught in school about the flat Earth being believed in Columbus time, it just goes to show the importance of looking at all sources and not clinging to a preconceived idea.

Ciao baby.

Before jumping into this thread(and the subject for that matter), I honestly didnt know where it was going to take me, although I did assume some credibility to the theory.
I picked my side and stuck with it.
One thing this thread has taught me more than any other is to be thorough when looking at all sources.
I tried very hard to fight the case for chemtrails, but the evidence kept coming up short.

Im really glad that Im not the only one that was taught about a flat earth being believed up till Columbus' era.

And I can also understand the frustrations of the guys that have to repeatedly debunk the same evidence, over and over and over again. You guys have more patience than me. Which initially lead to my assumptions of paid shills, I cant imagine anyone doing this out of "love" for the subject.
Keep up the good work. The truth will out.

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edit on 201311America/Chicago11pm11pmTue, 19 Nov 2013 16:34:13 -06001113 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)

They chemtrailed all day, and now it is stormy here.

So what you're saying is you saw something that any meteorologist will tell you is a good sign of a change in the weather and then the weather changed. Spooky.

It's the same old, same old.
Always the same old, same old.
I won't answer zaphod directly as it tends to get me warnings,
but would it were just me experiencing chemtrails.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


So you have no problem with people editing videos and cutting important portions out of them, as long as it shows what you want it to show? Oh wait, I forgot, the ends justify the means, and screw everything else.

Zaphod58
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

So you have no problem with people editing videos and cutting important portions out of them, as long as it shows what you want it to show? Oh wait, I forgot, the ends justify the means, and screw everything else.

.

No problem at all, not like we can do much about it. Our post are edited all the time. We don't like it but that's life.

The Important thing is the pilot admits he knows about Chemtrais and he was genuine enough to say so.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

I echo your sentiments, I cannot fathom how this can be labelled a hoax unless someone can prove the whole thing was staged, with a fake plane, passengers, crew and pilots - seems like kind of a stretch. I guess the word "hoax" has some kind of esoteric meaning at ATS which is different from the way most other people use it.

The video is definitively a scripted PIECE OF TRASH.

How exactly, does one simply walk on board a passenger plane and waltz directly into the cockpit?

Go ahead...you try it...Then get back to us after the 15-20 stretch in the porno palace...let us know how it went...

reply to post by totallackey


Hey, he did not enter the cockpit not would a script get that far unless your a hollywood producer.

You don"t have a clue to what you on about.
Nice Try!

OneFreeMan

Ask all these players about 9/11, Sandyhook, Boston bombings, the moon
landings, chemtrails etc. and you will find, down to a man, that they all support the
official stories offered up. Not that you need to know by going outside the chemtrail
threads, but that is really all you need to know!

Au contraire Outonatopsyturvylimb.

Because you inhabit a fantasy world at one extreme end of the 'conspiracy' spectrum it is your wont to assume that your antagonists are entrenched at the other extreme end(how could they not be from your polarized perspective?), how wrong you are......about a great many things.

Oh I see the thread did end up in the hoax bin. I think thats a shame as much valid information was presented with regards to GE and more sinister government testing.
But in reality the OP, and how it was presented does come under the definition of hoax.

Ah well, Im glad I did delve into the subject, its a shame all my efforts have ended up in the hoax bin though.
It feels a bit like I have wasted my time, maybe I did, but at least I learned a lot from it.

reply to post by fireyaguns


Really? Point to the where he said that chemtrails are real. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Zaphod58
reply to post by fireyaguns

 

Really? Point to the where he said that chemtrails are real. Go ahead, I'll wait.

To be fair FYG only said the pilot admitted he knows about them. I'd guess there's probably quite a few in the airline industry who know about them. Doesn't make them real though.

reply to post by OneManArmy

You obviously dont realise that the flat earth idea(proposed by scientists, pmsl) went out of circulation a few hundred years ago.

Yes,

so why if you know that do have issues understanding perspective?

So whose stupid?

What type of question is that?

Are you? can you explain why you would ask me who is stupid?

You should show some more respect for people that might not have had such a vast educational experience. Its not their fault.

How much respect should I show for people that might not have a vast educational background?

Have I been disrespectful? Do I even know anyone's educational background?

Whats your excuse?

For what?

What are you accusing me of?

Arent we all here to learn and to share knowledge with others? Or are you just a troll?

I know what I am here for, I can only suspect what you and other members are here for.

I am more of a elf than troll.

let me quote your words once again back to you

Whats your excuse?

reply to post by OneManArmy

Why dont you present the evidence for your claim that we knew this for thousands of years? you could get a nobel prize.

and its game over for me guys,

this joke is not funny anymore.

I need a break

tsurfer2000h
reply to post by OneFreeMan

 

So how is this a hoax?
The same way sandyhook conspiracy is a ludicrous online lie, I suppose!

Chemtrails are a reality and what the guy said, with permission
to film or not, is true.
There are No grounds for calling the whole thread a hoax,
and it is a shame and disgrace.

And here I thought you were being sincere with your earlier post.

I see now the true human nature at work.

The name got you again. he was sincere. Read the names closely.

reply to post by mrthumpy

So it was your turn that day. Is there some sort of rota for sun blocking?

Read it again mthumpy,

I believe he is saying the whole sky everywhere,

Obviously someone 100 miles to my south wouldn't be experiencing the same skies as me. But that doesn't mean that they don't (and I know they do) experience their own private planes laying trails to block out the sun in their southern sky.

this reads like he must think they spray every where or at least half the globe at a time to block the sun.

InhaleExhale
reply to post by OneManArmy

 

Why dont you present the evidence for your claim that we knew this for thousands of years? you could get a nobel prize.

and its game over for me guys,

this joke is not funny anymore.

I need a break

OK, inhale then exhale, repeat as required.

Lets all have a good break! Its well earned IMO.

reply to post by mrthumpy


Saying "I know about them" is a hell alot different than admitting them.

reply to post by fireyaguns

No problem at all, not like we can do much about it. Our post are edited all the time. We don't like it but that's life.

Your posts are edited all the time by you, who else would do it?