Pilot admits chemtrails and says they are a "necessary evil"........

seabhac-rua
reply to post by OneManArmy

 

Yeah right.

If a politician came out and said chemtrails were a bag of s**t, you would be on here saying "look.....plausible deniability!!!"

Are you capable of forming a valid argument without resorting to personal attacks?

OK so you have learned a new phrase, well done. Remember it, its a good one.

seabhac-rua

Ok....ok....I'm being a bit hysterical, my bad, my apologies.

Its ok, if you go back a few pages I let my emotion get the better of me too and actually said Im not posting in this thread anymore. But here I am, lol.

reply to post by OneManArmy


Yeah, I think I'm done too(but i'll probably be back....aaaarrrgh!).

PlanetXisHERE

 

It IS too bad the pilot was filmed even after asking not to be, but the truth is important - look what the US government does to SUSPECTED terrorists to get the truth out of them - waterboarding, beatings, sleep deprivation, drug regimes - so people and governments do what they feel is necessary to learn the truth and human rights be damned.

The hypocrisy is glaring. It's more than "Too bad" the pilot was recorded after stating he did not wish to be. It was wrong and deceitful. But the pilot's rights "Be damned" as you deem the end to justify the means here because you perceive this to end in the favor of your belief in chemtrails.

Notice the pilot stating he did not want to go on record has been edited from your latest embedded version.

OneManArmy
I was led to believe by the GE proponents that its a "last resort" due to the implied dangers and unforseen side effects of dabbling with the atmosphere. And as such, if the time does come that its the only possible solution to global warming, then it is a "necessary evil". Trading long life and good health for the survival of the species.
It would seem the pilot has done a little research into these matters on his own, leading to his off the record opinion.

really? then you have a better imagination than me!

I can only see that he was talking about chemtrails, but hey its your job to throw ambiguity into something that seems patently obvious, just to keep the plausible deniability going, disappointing really.

What is disappointing is that you have to accuse me of being paid to point out the simple English grammar and you cannot allow that ALL the verifiable evidence shows you are wrong.

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


What is good enough for the US "government", that is the ends justify the means, is good enough for me. But not really, filming someone without consent and torture are not quite the same.

Don't you think ignoring his protest to be not filmed is outweighed but the world's right to know about chemtrails?

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

Don't you think ignoring his protest to be not filmed is outweighed but the world's right to know about chemtrails?

No not at all, because he was being misled and deceived by the person asking the questions.

And what do you want the world to know about chemtrails?

tsurfer2000h


And what do you want the world to know about chemtrails?

He wants the world to know that they exist - and since that is a lie he has no problems about lying in order to make it public - it makes perfect sense that the ends and the means are both deceptive.

PlanetXisHERE
so why has the video been deleted from numerous youtube channels and some youtube channels have been shut down over it?

Probably because the pilot asked YouTube to delete videos and channels that peddled the video. Especially when the pilot is on video asking not to be videoed. The pilot has that right, and YouTube has the legal obligation to grant his requests.

The bigger question is why is his request to not be videoed removed from the video?

hoax:

1. An act intended to deceive or trick.
2. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.

This video now becomes a HOAX because it fraudulently and deceptively has part of the video edited out, and then deliberately misrepresents what actually happened. Not to mention the privacy rights of the pilot that are currently being violated.

PlanetXisHERE
It IS too bad the pilot was filmed even after asking not to be, but the truth is important

Truth is important, so peoples' safety and privacy be damned?



As long as "chemtrail" proponents continue to:

• fraudulently and deceptively edit videos,
  
• spread other known hoaxes "proving chemtrails" around the internet,
  
• and continue to refuse to get the simplest of scientific evidence,

then the "chemtrail" myth will continue to be classified as a HOAX by those of us who know otherwise.


ETA> It doesn't matter how many words are typed on a screen, or how many pictures or videos of contrails are posted, it will never equal proof or evidence of "chemtrails". Only scientific laboratory evidence can prove "chemtrails". And that is a fact.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

What is good enough for the US "government", that is the ends justify the means, is good enough for me.

Then you are no better than those you condemn.

Don't you think ignoring his protest to be not filmed is outweighed but the world's right to know about chemtrails?

No, I don't.

In the end, after the deceit, what knowledge have we even gained anyway? That a pilot admits chemtrails? No, we don't even have that. He admits that he has opinions.

reply to post by _BoneZ_


The video has been re-edited to obscure the face of the pilot, and his name and the airline's name are never mentioned, the videographer stopped filming the pilot when asked and was basically just recording audio, in a public place, or a place with much public, so how is his privacy violated?

You have no legitimate grounds to declare this a hoax and to do so is just an act of desperation.

Please don't distract from the main topic of the thread, which is an actual commercial airline pilot admitting that chemtrails are a necessary evil. Maybe you should square that with what you think or claim to "know".

DenyObfuscation
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

He admits that he has opinions.

So you admit that his opinion is that chemtrails are a necessary evil?

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


The pilot requested not to be recorded. It doesn't matter if they blur his face, or not. He asked not to be recorded, and he was. That's dishonest from the start, and then editing it out of the video just makes it look even worse. You're no better than the people that you are against, because you'll do anything to get to your results.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


It doesn't make any difference, because he doesn't even have proof that they exist in the first place.

PlanetXisHERE

DenyObfuscation
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

He admits that he has opinions.

So you admit that his opinion is that chemtrails are a necessary evil?

Again with the disinfo - that is not what the previous poster said, and it also isn't what the pilot said!!

where do you guys get off with this?? Why are you so dishonest??

PlanetXisHERE
reply to post by _BoneZ_

 

The video has been re-edited to obscure the face of the pilot, and his name and the airline's name are never mentioned, the videographer stopped filming the pilot when asked and was basically just recording audio,

That is a lie - he kept recording. Some versions of the video have been re-edited to try to make it appear less dishonest, but the original can still be found and the videographer lied when he said "Okay" when the pilot asked him to stop recording.

in a public place, or a place with much public, so how is his privacy violated?

It is not a public place - it is private property and a workplace.

You have no legitimate grounds to declare this a hoax and to do so is just an act of desperation.

It is a hoax because the pilot did not admit that chemtrail are a necessary evil.

Please don't distract from the main topic of the thread, which is an actual commercial airline pilot admitting that chemtrails are a necessary evil.

where?

show me the exact phrase he said that shows this??

Maybe you should square that with what you think or claim to "know".

I know you are dishonest, as are all your ilk.

PlanetXisHERE
the videographer stopped filming the pilot when asked and was basically just recording audio

You know the video shows your statement to be completely incorrect. Why would you make this claim when the video clearly shows otherwise?

PlanetXisHERE
in a public place, or a place with much public, so how is his privacy violated?

A plane, or even an airport, is not a public place. Both places are private property, and both are the workplace of the pilot(s).

His privacy is further being violated by the continuous spreading of the video around the internet with fictitious claims being made. Not only does he have legal grounds of libel, the airline can also press trespassing charges against the person who made the video if they so choose because the pilot asked not to be videoed.

PlanetXisHERE
You have no legitimate grounds to declare this a hoax

The "chemtrail" proponents have already proven that the whole "chemtrail" myth is a hoax by misrepresenting other people, editing videos and making false claims, spreading debunked hoaxes around the internet and claiming "proof".

Not to mention, there's absolutely zero scientific evidence to even hypothesize that "chemtrails" could exist, let alone being in the same universe as claiming "proof". Therefore this, by definition, is a hoax.

PlanetXisHERE
an actual commercial airline pilot admitting that chemtrails are a necessary evil.

Someone giving their opinion is not an admission of anything, nor is it proof of anything. Opinions aren't admissible in a court of law, nor in the scientific community as scientific evidence.

PlanetXisHERE
Don't you think ignoring his protest to be not filmed is outweighed but the world's right to know about chemtrails?

How can the world have a right to know about something that doesn't exist? Where's the documented, repeatable scientific evidence proving "chemtrails" are real?

I don't know why I have to say this again, but:

It doesn't matter how many words are typed on a screen, or how many pictures or videos of contrails are posted, it will never equal proof or evidence of "chemtrails". Only scientific laboratory evidence can prove "chemtrails".

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

So you admit that his opinion is that chemtrails are a necessary evil?

Is that supposed to be some kind of nibiru mind trick?

Since you did ask me I guess I should reply also to be polite. No, I don't and no, I didn't. It's not clear to me exactly what he's referring to as a necessary evil. I don't actually care either because it is just his opinion regardless.

He presented no evidence and seems rather uncertain about the issue himself. The video is worthless as far as evidence of chemtrails is concerned. Shocker.

OneManArmy

tsurfer2000h
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

So you are on record being against the proliferation of CCTV cameras across the world?

And those CCTV cameras are known to the people that they are being used, whereas this man asked to not be filmed and was told he wasn't when in fact he was there is a difference.

I wonder...
If you go to the local council or whatever local government is called in the US, and asked them to stop recording you as you do not wish to be recorded, do you honestly think that you will be exempt from being spied upon?

I know what they would tell me if I went to mine, and it would breach the terms of this site to type it.

If they brought a CCTV camera into my office, put it down on the desk in front of me and started asking me questions then I think I'd have some grounds for complaint.

They chemtrails are back with a vengeance today. The sky is milky and thinly
clouded over already as deliberately laid trail spreads out to join
deliberately laid trail.
They are blocking off the sun as they are spraying predominantly
in the southern aspect of the sky.

I can’t believe how you guys are carrying on about the privacy of any pilot.

Pilots should be transparent in regards to these issues.

Hey, if you’ re all so concerned about his privacy in this footage you should know now from me whom cares about you Iphones are everywhere and you have no privacy what so ever.
Get use to it.