What if God was nothing more then Just a Computer?

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Happens again with Elijah

The Elijah Conspiracy...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah
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2nd Kings 2 KJV:

2 And it came to pass, when the Lord would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.

2 And Elijah said unto Elisha, Tarry here, I pray thee; for the Lord hath sent me to Bethel. And Elisha said unto him, As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they went down to Bethel.

3 And the sons of the prophets that were at Bethel came forth to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Lord will take away thy master from thy head to day? And he said, Yea, I know it; hold ye your peace.

4 And Elijah said unto him, Elisha, tarry here, I pray thee; for the Lord hath sent me to Jericho. And he said, As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho.

5 And the sons of the prophets that were at Jericho came to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Lord will take away thy master from thy head to day? And he answered, Yea, I know it; hold ye your peace.

6 And Elijah said unto him, Tarry, I pray thee, here; for the Lord hath sent me to Jordan. And he said, As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. And they two went on.

7 And fifty men of the sons of the prophets went, and stood to view afar off: and they two stood by Jordan.

8 And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground.

9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.

10 And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.

11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.


Saul/Paul even has a close encounter that changes his life in New Testament:

Acts 22 KJV

22 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.

2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

4 And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.

5 As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished.

6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Well let's explore Death first.

Fact. Every living thing will die! And that also imply's Planet's, Sun's and whole Solar Systems! Now outside this law would be a black hole. Since we do not know what happens on the other side; if any, it could go on forever.

Anyone up for Nature?

vethumanbeing
infoseeker26754
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inforseeker
That's what I say everyday WTF?
I thought it was better then the God Particle idea.

Leon Ledermans "The God Partical"? There is another book out there by a physisist you might find amusing. Thomas Campbell's trilogy--"MY BIG TOE" or his Theory Of Everything. It reads better than the God Partical and not full of Egocentric puffery nonsense; what is surprising is he seems to come at this like a field observer--an anthropologist.

Oh Boy, books. Here's one that is worth the time and the reading. It called "I Come As A Brother" Bartholomew. Now this one the Church would burn, most people I try to pass it on to always returned it unread, though they say!

I know they actually did read some of it since their expression's are of Oh #hit and a face when I asked did they read it!

I wished I read this book while growing up, would explain why the world is now!

reply to post by vethumanbeing


Yep! I sure do not want to be a God!


I have a hard time Being myself with all these zombies walking around! Though I try, I Do.

AfterInfinity
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It's a very strange thing, in my eyes, that Jesus' personal journal has never been revealed to the public. I'm not sure if there is public knowledge of such a journal even existing. So everyone else thought it was important to write down what he said and did, but he didn't bother writing anything himself? Not even to preserve his message in his own words? That seems highly unlikely. So where is it, and why is it being kept hidden? Anyway, back to the subject.

This has always bothered me. Jesus spoke 3 languages and wrote Hebrew, he was (as a boy) educated in Alexandria by his benefactor Joseph of Aramethea and knew the Greek, Coptic and Hebrew traditions by the age of 12; YET LEFT NOTHING behind, except the Qumran Scrolls found in 1948 known as the 'dead sea scrolls). He was a student there taken at the age of 13 to study and spent 6 years until the age of 19, then took off on his worldy travels with his benifactor, the metals merchant Joseph. Why does this have to be so secretive and not known. Is the greatest lie NOT told to humanity?

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Moses went up the mountain, talked to God while a Bush was on fire, still how did he get the Staff from God to part the sea?

Just the Staff Moses had was using something Other Power,



There were alot of things in the Bible you could not explain. Spirit is one of them. Is it God's spirit or Man's spirit? Could Spirit actually mean Soul?

In Rev, it is of doom porn and nothing else! How could 7 Angel's use a horn and override the Moon, Star's, Water and the Earth? It say's they come DOWN apond the earth, How? Down from where? Ship would be my first bet!

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Revelation has a Giant Golden Cube Mothership (Borg) and some saucers.

Its in there, gotta sift through the doom porn.

Read last couple chapters about New Heaven and New Earth. Heaven had to be rebuilt after a great war and faction split.

Most of the events of Revelations are of Asteroid/Comet/Meteor Impact events.

They read: a Mountain ablaze will fall into the sea, or the stars will fall like ripe figs from a fig tree, The angel will cast down a great mill stone or grinding stone!!

and then most the judgements that follow are effects of impact....except for the alien invasion part...



Yeah, and the staff, the staff is amazing. God got mad at Moses for using the staff to draw up water from the rock...

The staff may have been the power source for the Ark!

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Actually it goes with the subject. Most book's now are on a computer using a program to read them. Remember the Bible Code?

Now how could that have been conceived or even though of? It is funny how many from way back say that there is a code hidden in that Book.

Most of the Verse's anyway are repeated in the same chapter for some strange reason! How many lines does it take to say something but instead almost same line only one word has been changed? Then the verse continues with the story.

Without us having a computer, where would we be now? Still back in the 1800's using steam and coal!

What did Jesus actually do thoes 40 yrs before he became Christ? One would think somebody; since they all liked to write down everything would have said something about a strange man Wondering the Wood's asking Question's!

AbleEndangered
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Revelation has a Giant Golden Cube Mothership (Borg) and some saucers.

Its in there, gotta sift through the doom porn.

Read last couple chapters about New Heaven and New Earth. Heaven had to be rebuilt after a great war and faction split.

Most of the events of Revelations are of Asteroid/Comet/Meteor Impact events.

They read: a Mountain ablaze will fall into the sea, or the stars will fall like ripe figs from a fig tree, The angel will cast down a great mill stone or grinding stone!!

and then most the judgements that follow are effects of impact....except for the alien invasion part...

 

Yeah, and the staff, the staff is amazing. God got mad at Moses for using the staff to draw up water from the rock...

The staff may have been the power source for the Ark!

edit on 30-9-2013 by AbleEndangered because: more

Funny that you brought up the Alien's! Their the one's who brought the computer in the first place! They crashed/ shot down part's taken and a jump in human progress or is it?

One has to wonder now if the computer is of Satan! Either way, something is messing with the program.
What that something IS, one could alway's ponder.

infoseeker26754
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infoseeker
Well let's explore Death first. Fact. Every living thing will die! And that also imply's Planet's, Sun's and whole Solar Systems! Now outside this law would be a black hole. Since we do not know what happens on the other side; if any, it could go on forever. Anyone up for Nature?

Every living thing living within solid matter that can decompose will lose that vessel it resides in. If you are the Sun, or a planetary sphere that is of a gaseous content and HAVE CONSCIOUSNESS you will not decompose as fast physical matter decays, you will loose your power sourse, or your energizer battery depletes, and then you have escape plan A or B. Enough time to think about this 4 or 5 billion year life cycle and in that time frame (not existing as you are gas and not 3D and have no awareness of linear time) will have at least come into some sort of awareness that would enable you to salvage your spirit and MOVE ON). This was the plan in first place, just like the human, to realize bodily form is not what its jacked up to be. This is a short term stay at Motel 6. My point is that the (what seems to be observed as "planets") are celestial bodies of information much smarter than one would imagine. They are (as the sun is as well) the recorders of all incidents happening upon this earth, think of magnetic memorex or Basf tape held by beings disguised as spheres, (much more than what they seem). Conscious entities; if you were to trying to cross an asphalt road as a grasshopper and could not understand the concept of an automobile *wheels* moving at speed that could squash you would be in the correct thinking.

infoseeker26754
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Yep! I sure do not want to be a God!

I have a hard time Being myself with all these zombies walking around! Though I try, I Do.

Its not that hard really, but one has to have some nerve and a strong sense of morality, an ability to outwit the 'devil' when it wants to argue; and have an open door policy when/if required to debate Lucifer (It is a very chatty entity and is always forcing its point of view "IVE BEEN HAD" btw). Biggist problem as I see it are the organized faith systems; they are all in a state of needing to be ground up in my left sink compartment garbage disposal; all false and manipulative.

vethumanbeing

infoseeker26754
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Yep! I sure do not want to be a God!

I have a hard time Being myself with all these zombies walking around! Though I try, I Do.

Its not that hard really, but one has to have some nerve and a strong sense of morality, an ability to outwit the 'devil' when it wants to argue; and have an open door policy when/if required to debate Lucifer (It is a very chatty entity and is always forcing its point of view "IVE BEEN HAD" btw). Biggist problem as I see it are the organized faith systems; they are all in a state of needing to be ground up in my left sink compartment garbage disposal; all false and manipulative.

edit on 30-9-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)

Somehow having a talk with Satan would not be so bad as say Ego. Layer's upon layer's of Ego can have an effect on most people; change what you don't like only never really changing the true core, so now you just added another layer.

I'm stripping or being stripped of most of my Ego idea's. Fine by me though. When I said I find it hard I was refuring to the Lonely aspect of oneself!

Sure I can be alone no problem's there. It's the outside mirror of oneself that reflect's something different. A gap? Some void there only no reason to it. Some day's the void is fine and other day's it become's cold. Does that make sence?

I take all the bit's and peices from every religion I can find. Now add other possible things to it and find that Anything could be possible. Left with the only fact: Myself.

infoseeker26754
veteranhumanbeing
infoseeker26754
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infoseeker
Yep! I sure do not want to be a God!

I have a hard time Being myself with all these zombies walking around! Though I try, I Do.

veteranhumanbeing
Its not that hard really, but one has to have some nerve and a strong sense of morality, an ability to outwit the 'devil' when it wants to argue; and have an open door policy when/if required to debate Lucifer (It is a very chatty entity and is always forcing its point of view "IVE BEEN HAD" btw). Biggist problem as I see it are the organized faith systems; they are all in a state of needing to be ground up in my left sink compartment garbage disposal; all false and manipulative.

infoseeker
Somehow having a talk with Satan would not be so bad as say Ego. Layer's upon layer's of Ego can have an effect on most people; change what you don't like only never really changing the true core, so now you just added another layer.
I'm stripping or being stripped of most of my Ego idea's. Fine by me though. When I said I find it hard I was refuring to the Lonely aspect of oneself!

What if Ego is Satan and no one told you/as in it is a metaphor; always has been to explain your (all humans) self denial/hatred, self love- all things you at times want to make disapear as these are emotions not under control. There are those that say you cannot know your true self unless you corral the egocentric part of yourself, the "GRASPER" (I call it the your self always trying to CLAW your way to the middle). I havent let mine go yet as it is willing to have a fight to the finish to save itself (it doesnt realize it just has to take a back seat occasionally).

infoseeker
Sure I can be alone no problem's there. It's the outside mirror of oneself that reflect's something different. A gap? Some void there only no reason to it. Some day's the void is fine and other day's it become's cold. Does that make sence?
I take all the bit's and peices from every religion I can find. Now add other possible things to it and find that Anything could be possible. Left with the only fact: Myself.

You are not alone, you are under the impression you are because you are just the newest version of your oversoul encarnated here; all of your other selves (having been here done that) are bent over in laughter as they can relate. Mirror iconology (who is that looking back at me)..I look at myself and know its not what I think looking back at me, its ME/IAM/ITSELF something huge that is challenging, arresting. I understand the religious compositions, I find them interesting and study many of them like a true theologian; you will take part and parcel from each to understand your connection with your creator (YOU) and as you say, you are left with one thing--YOURSELF as proof (fill in any blanks).

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Good then, you might want to read the book I was talking about. It bypass most of the fairy tail crap most would want you to believe in.

Fight to the death huh? Seem's I'm not the only one on the path of ???????. Lost alot of friend's along the way though. Falling like fly's since I am not who they thought I was. Still having problem's with the judgement's though.

I see I need to stop comparing myself to the outside world, or the people in it. Strange though, more like they are all dead; if that's the right word for it, and no matter what you say to help them goes out the window. It seems I have to be the exsample now, just where do I start?

Being myself has it's downside, sometimes. Alone it's just fine, in the world it's painful. Not pain as hurt pain, more like compassion and knowing you really can not change the ways of another I still try.

Explain's how Christ felt at the time of His death, or my verson of it anyway.

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So your not up for Nature, could try Fate!

Karma, Love, Time, sure their is something in your bag of trick's that has one pondering a look. Computer was mine

Rules my friend are of a higher understanding. Might not really be any rules, just Law's.

There you go, how about
Unaversal Law'S

infoseeker26754
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Good then, you might want to read the book I was talking about. It bypass most of the fairy tail crap most would want you to believe in. Fight to the death huh? Seem's I'm not the only one on the path of ???????. Lost alot of friend's along the way though. Falling like fly's since I am not who they thought I was. Still having problem's with the judgement's though.
I see I need to stop comparing myself to the outside world, or the people in it. Strange though, more like they are all dead; if that's the right word for it, and no matter what you say to help them goes out the window. It seems I have to be the example now, just where do I start? Being myself has it's downside, sometimes. Alone it's just fine, in the world it's painful. Not pain as hurt pain, more like compassion and knowing you really can not change the ways of another I still try. Explain's how Christ felt at the time of His death, or my verson of it anyway.

I was told the other day "I DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE ANYMORE". Of course they wouldnt, the transformations Ive undergone in just two years time, something about raising in frequency...I just have a different mind set. A friend of mine explained it this way, he had a stroke (just pounding nails) left him in a totally different place spiritually/creatively and it changed his view point (not of death or happenstance) but changed his brain. I have not lost friends exactly, it is just they have fallen away; by circumstances SELECTIVE, they are not supposed to enter my conciousness anymore as Im busy doing something they may naysay or thwart. This includes close family members. Its supposed to happen. I have been ridiculed for my thoughts, so what; I know my path and it is one of self realization, all about ME. No time for you anymore because the paths split. You are not alone; Im here, and Jesus just walked through the front door and cursed our three legged cat for being under its feet (he is an athiest in this life plus more ideosyncracies connected to his past) go figure.

infoseeker26754
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So your not up for Nature, could try Fate!
Karma, Love, Time, sure their is something in your bag of trick's that has one pondering a look. Computer was mine

Rules my friend are of a higher understanding. Might not really be any rules, just Law's.
There you go, how about
Unaversal Law'S

Im all for nature even if I incurred Earths wrath at some point resulting in a misplaced banana peel, potencially blinding pie in the face, mining accident, cave in or an undertoe dragging me out into the deep blue water. I havent done anything in this life (YET) to anticipate death by an accidental lava flow misshap (wrong place right time). I see truth in Karma, I see it expressed in people I know and their current business or personal relationships gone afoul generally. Karma is beating up the human now big time as it doesnt have enough human lifetime cycles left to carry through the intent or balancing of 'comeupance' and has to HURRY IT ALL UP. The internet is the brick on the accelerator of your car. The computer is the generator/the method of dispersing INSTANT KARMA for all; its pure genious as it is not only speeding time up but actualizing and keeping track of the integrals. I like the law of the Uni-adversal. No instructions were given to me as in (I have to play "NICE" with the human); and you make your own destiny and have total control if you chose to use your imagination to change potencial negative outcomes into stasis or a positive. Il check out that book you recommended.

vethumanbeing

I was told the other day "I DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE ANYMORE". Of course they wouldnt, the transformations Ive undergone in just two years time, something about raising in frequency...I just have a different mind set. A friend of mine explained it this way, he had a stroke (just pounding nails) left him in a totally different place spiritually/creatively and it changed his view point (not of death or happenstance) but changed his brain. I have not lost friends exactly, it is just they have fallen away; by circumstances SELECTIVE, they are not supposed to enter my conciousness anymore as Im busy doing something they may naysay or thwart. This includes close family members. Its supposed to happen. I have been ridiculed for my thoughts, so what; I know my path and it is one of self realization, all about ME. No time for you anymore because the paths split. You are not alone; Im here, and Jesus just walked through the front door and cursed our three legged cat for being under its feet (he is an athiest in this life plus more ideosyncracies connected to his past) go figure.

Brother, this reply and another you made in this thread are mind boggling. It's like experiencing the biblical rapture with going anywhere. Have you run across anyone in your physical location you can relate to at all? I have a couple of follow-up questions. My apologies for letting my attention drift from this thread.

vethumanbeing

infoseeker26754
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Im all for nature even if I incurred Earths wrath at some point resulting in a misplaced banana peel, potencially blinding pie in the face, mining accident, cave in or an undertoe dragging me out into the deep blue water. I havent done anything in this life (YET) to anticipate death by an accidental lava flow misshap (wrong place right time). I see truth in Karma, I see it expressed in people I know and their current business or personal relationships gone afoul generally. Karma is beating up the human now big time as it doesnt have enough human lifetime cycles left to carry through the intent or balancing of 'comeupance' and has to HURRY IT ALL UP. The internet is the brick on the accelerator of your car. The computer is the generator/the method of dispersing INSTANT KARMA for all; its pure genious as it is not only speeding time up but actualizing and keeping track of the integrals. I like the law of the Uni-adversal. No instructions were given to me as in (I have to play "NICE" with the human); and you make your own destiny and have total control if you chose to use your imagination to change potencial negative outcomes into stasis or a positive. Il check out that book you recommended.

edit on 1-10-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)

I've had that happened afew times, Fate is seem's want's me Alive! Karma has me bound, and Love has my back! Fade away, starting to wonder if it's me doing the fading or them. I play nice though, like to see the human's take a step back with that LOOK!

It seem's most people do not know this is happening really. One would think to check Inside for flaw's at least first! Maybe they do just go to the DR and get a Pill or 2 and forget about it. That's it! FORGET!

Here we go, since the computer time has gone by at a faster rate. Heard the No More Soul's in Heaven stuff right? So actually the DEAD are walking now on Earth. Creapy Thought! Karma had to use the computer for this dis-placement to keep track and it is almost instant, lag time of week or 2.

Was going to say I hope it can not read my mind, with computers IT CAN!

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I though we lost you there Snarl! How have you been?