Did Abraham ever really exist?

reply to post by Lone12

who m i talking to here ?

children ?

Matthew 18
2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Thanks for the compliment friend!

reply to post by Lone12


Well, Buddha, Siddhārtha Gautama, was a real person, who had scribes follow him around, and he had benefactors that built temples in his honor, while he was still alive. Thoth, not so much. But, humor me, please. Do you think that Thoth incarnated into Siddhārtha Gautama, to make him The Buddha?

guitarplayer
I am glad to see you write this so from now on when you bring up anything out of the bible or anything about the Catholic church I will remind you that it is all built on lies.

Sure .. knock yourself out. No problem.
The deeper we dig, the more we learn.
And what we're learning about the origins of the world religions is rather interesting ...
Ins't it??

windword
No silly! Everyone knows that Christianity is based on BUDDHISM!

Similarities between Buddha and Christ Teachings
It's remarkable how many teachings are the same.
And Buddhism predates Christianity by what ... 500 years??
Christianity seems to be a hybrid of Buddhism and Judaism ...

reply to post by Lone12


Obviously you have never lived and played D&D.
Oh wait it's the devils game isn't it?

Back to the OP I have just been reading about the Sumerians temples and they had 62 preists with 180 musicians and vocalists, I wonder If it sounded any good?

Anyhow FF enjoying the thread so far and I have learnt some stuff cheers gal.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Yes, the similarities are remarkable! Let's not forget about the Magi from the east, giving the birth story some eastern mystery.

windword
reply to post by Lone12

 

Well, Buddha, Siddhārtha Gautama, was a real person, who had scribes follow him around, and he had benefactors that built temples in his honor, while he was still alive. Thoth, not so much. But, humor me, please. Do you think that Thoth incarnated into Siddhārtha Gautama, to make him The Buddha?

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yes... Thoth had many cults....
buddhism...Native American white bul.... Mayan....

so ?

why force him into having devised christianity as well ?

more easy d be, that all those ' religions' was a MIMICK of [biblical] belief...right ?

windword
Let's not forget about the Magi from the east, giving the birth story some eastern mystery.

The Magi from the East ... pulling in the Zoroastrian and Vedic beliefs. Their visit shows that there was a free flowing of religious thoughts between the Jews in that area and the other religions that pre-dated them. And we can find the Zoroastrian, Vedic and Summerian crossover in the Jewish religion.

boymonkey74
reply to post by Lone12

 

Obviously you have never lived and played D&D.
Oh wait it's the devils game isn't it?

Back to the OP I have just been reading about the Sumerians temples and they had 62 preists with 180 musicians and vocalists, I wonder If it sounded any good?

Anyhow FF enjoying the thread so far and I have learnt some stuff cheers gal.

*grin*

so.....enlighten me....whát it is you have ' learned ' then

FlyersFan

windword
Let's not forget about the Magi from the east, giving the birth story some eastern mystery.

The Magi from the East ... pulling in the Zoroastrian and Vedic beliefs. Their visit shows that there was a free flowing of religious thoughts between the Jews in that area and the other religions that pre-dated them. And we can find the Zoroastrian, Vedic and Summerian crossover in the Jewish religion.

- you re doing Nothing else but Continue to Force false ideas into eachother.

Your choice.

- buit do know that Nothing of it makes sense;
worse : is Illegal

...and is a Legal joke , into the Dimensions.

a pathetic joke.

anyway....- continue, if you want to...
- just di know that it has Null and Void influence, your babbling.

reply to post by FlyersFan


There was a crossover in Greece too, ergo the evolution of Krishna-Kristos-Christ concept in Greek and Egyptian mystery schools. Jesus was awarded the title of The Christ by the Greeks.

reply to post by FlyersFan


What evidence would be sufficient for you to believe that Abraham existed?

salainen
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

What evidence would be sufficient for you to believe that Abraham existed?

None.

They ll do anything to try refute it.

And though their OWN sources talk about destroying Eden,

they yet will say "those sources are older then christianity: therefore, christianity [ in casu: abraham] is Fake.

useless talking to them - trust me.

Schizophrenic Thinking.

regards,

dashen

winnar

adjensen

Is there evidence that God gave the Ten Commandments to Moses on a mountaintop? Well, sort of -- the Bible indicates that he did, and, literal or not, it's still documentary evidence.

No this is not any kind of evidence and is the equivalent of calling Harry Potter books documentary evidence of witches.

Well your very offensive quote WOULD be correct except that it is not just some scifi mystery novel,

It also makes the PREPOSTEROUS claim that about 2 MILLION PEOPLE, Men, Women, And Children all beheld the miracles of Sinai, and lived in the desert for 40 years. And they all managed to stick with that story?

Why not? People are gullible and tend to believe what those "above" them say. Is it really any different than say 300 million Americans buying the official story for 9/11? It's not like a single one of those other people were privy to Moses inner circle any more than you or I can say what goes on behind closed doors at a White House cabinet meeting. Those 2 million were far more concerned with getting the H out of Egypt and surviving moreso than who Moses was talking to on mountain tops.

I'd like to refer to one of my favorite novels, Great Expectation as an analogy. There are real places in this novel, real people and very real events. It is a social commentary if a specific period in time but at the end if the day Pip, Estella and Mrs. Havisham are still fictional people. It doesn't take anything away from the moral message of the story or alter the message to understand the fictional aspects of it anymore than it does in A Tale of Two Cities.

occult Pyramid Texts : [ app 2500 bC]

"..kill the Babe when He comes "

nuff said.

...and that is *exactly* what happened:

herodes, the edomite [ cham, synagogue]
murdered every 'babe'

and yóu, people,
believe some Edomite , 1-dimesnisional 'researchers', with an agenda they THEMSELVES arent even aware of.....?

c 'mon ats

FlyersFan
IF Abraham existed, which there doesn't seem to be any credible evidence that he did, then he was one sick puppy [/url] Supposedly he tried to murder his child and sacrifice him to his God. Voices told him to ... and voices told him not to do it at the last minute.

THIS is the father of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam??
Not exactly a stable foundation ... if the foundation exists at all.

Abraham's near sacrifice of Isaac was a prophetic foreshadowing of the cross of Jesus, another very narrow (by a mere thread) reprieve from certain death (although "obedient to the very point of death even death on a cross" Philippians 2:8).

Question: As with the incident with Abraham and Isaac, was there a "Ram" located conveniently nearby, in case two, at the critical moment on Good Friday (Passover Preparation day)?

Lo and behold - the Ram (caught up in the thicket?).

The Day of the Cross


Isn't that trippy?

Best regards,

NAM

P.S. See Origins to begin to see and recognize how such a thing might be possible ie: if Jesus was a true Magus working to a precise, prophetic and "superdeterministic" schedule, determined from a first/last cause, even from before the very foundation of the world.

Full Documentary.

“If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true. 32 There is another who testifies in my favor, and I know that his testimony about me is true.

John 5:31

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No the premise of the op is that Abraham did not exist. With that line of thinking everything after that must be false so Christianity, Judaism and Islam is built upon a lie. It is not thinking inside or outside of any box it is a stated premise of the op and therefore a logical result of that stated premise is that Abraham did not exist. So when the op wants to argue about this or that about the bible or the Church I will remind them that they do not believe that the basics of the three religions is Abraham therefore their argument for the bible or the church is flawed. Just like when you make an argument for something in one thread and make the opposite argument in another thread I will hold you accountable too.