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In 1988 NSW Premier, Barry Unsworth said, It will take a massacre in Tasmania before we will be able to introduce gun laws. In March 1996 , less than a month before the massacre at Port Arthur, "the Gun Coalition's Tasmanian coordinator Mr. Rowland Brown, wrote to the Hobart Mercury newspaper warning of a Dunblane-style massacre in Tasmania unless the gun laws were changed" (SOURCE: The Australian Newspaper, 29 th April 1996).
He says if there is no U.S. response, Iran will not believe America’s resolve to block Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Graham also says those nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists could result in a bomb coming to Charleston Harbor.
( This one sounds like the military exercises that took place during 911, get the people who could do something out of the way)
Howard's Gun Legislation was drafted and printed before the massacre.
There was a 22-body morgue truck available. (IN TASMANIA?) How many of those are just lying around.
All of the senior Port Arthur staff members were away at a Work Seminar.
The Royal Hobart Hospital had put their Emergency Plan in place two days before the massacre.
The Hobart Hospital had a Trauma Seminar timed to end at the exact moment the shooting started.
The helicopter pilots were readily available that Sunday. (MOST UNUSUAL)
The local police were decoyed to be at the opposite end of the peninsula at the exact moment the shooting began.
Exercise Includes Simulated Hijacking - Vanity Fair reports that the “day’s exercise” (presumably Vigilant Guardian) is “designed to run a range of scenarios, including a ‘traditional’ simulated hijack in which politically motivated perpetrators commandeer an aircraft, land on a Cuba-like island, and seek asylum.”
Martin Bryant was an intellectually impaired, registered invalid with an IQ of 66.
THE SHOOTING
The killer was right handed. Martin Bryant is left handed. The killer shot from the hip (right handed).
The killer shot 32 people killing 20 and injuring 12
The killer scored twenty head shots, from the right hip, in 90 seconds! There are only about 20 shooters that good (better than Olympians) in the Western World. They are the SPOOKS who work for various governments. The killer stopped shooting after firing 29 shots (of the 30 in a magazine). This leaves a live round in the breech while changing magazines. To count while firing at a rate of 48 rounds per minute is a technique that requires tens of thousands of shots to perfect. It is a military skill-at-arms far beyond a mentally retarded youth who fired at a few tins and bits of cardboard in the bush.
paradoxstyle
Hey guys just a heads up about user Flyswatter having proof read all of his entries in this thread it's all reflective of the official government story with every single reply he has made, and his ideas of news report updates are only of interest if it supports the official government narrative of what happened so be weary of what he contributes to this discussion and possible efforts to prevent skeptic talk about what is happening with this story as it unfolds.
I looked further into his replies with other topics and it's the same deal, official story or it's "conspiracy" and your a nut if you dont believe the official lines. Not sure if he's a paid schill or simply just naive but looking into his replies raises questions about his interests.
Some examples include him knocking believers of the 911 truth movement and himself attacking people who believe 911 was an inside job or was fabricated or any coverup of the government. One of his reply's for example attacked people who thought the planes could have been remotely controlled ex (Look up Operation Northwoods, also look into the top speed of the original jet that flew into 911 and realise it didnt have the engines nor the structural strength to fly at the reported ~590mph for any length of time, and certainly not for the very long length it did in 911).
He as well attacked people that believed in HAARP affecting weather saying they are crazy to believe in such (Really dig into HAARP and you'll read all about how it can totally change weather, even the son of the haarp project creator talked about how his dads invention does that).
He doesn't believe in Boston bombings being staged where there is Significant amounts of evidence there was a lot of fakery and manimpulated images and false official lies being contradicted and lying in your face, just as the conneticut shooting and the aurora shooting and the 711 bombing on the UK, 911 again, the Syrian Sarin gas footages, the previous syrian massare which turned out to be Iraq massacre that the americans inflicted... the list is very long,
He as well attacks people who believe in the alien phenomenom, he doesn't believe Obama had a second name with a different last name as supportive by a lot of evidence and there is just so much dis info from this person he is obviously trying to confuse people and spread disinfo about everything and prevent people trying to shine light into matters to figure out the truth of what really happened. Look up his history of replies and read his replies theres all that I included and much more, I have just read through enough of them to pick up on this pattern and it is Very Very Obvious. to me what his intents are or how naive he very much is to believe the official stories in every situation being nothing but the truth and anyone questioning is nuts.
Just a heads up while we debate this topic more.edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)
TKDRL
reply to post by Xtrozero
Easy up until the part about getting from a car with it, and past security without being noticed by anyone. Unless I an incorrect about the security being setup at the entrance, but still. Kinda hard, especially in DC to walk around with a big old shotgun without getting the cops called in like 5 seconds flat.
Indigo5
I want to know...What medication he was prescribed just prior to this!...And I still want to know how he passed a "Secret" level security clearance screening!
paradoxstyle
Hey guys just a heads up about user Flyswatter having proof read all of his entries in this thread it's all reflective of the official government story with every single reply he has made, and his ideas of news report updates are only of interest if it supports the official government narrative of what happened so be weary of what he contributes to this discussion and possible efforts to prevent skeptic talk about what is happening with this story as it unfolds.
I looked further into his replies with other topics and it's the same deal, official story or it's "conspiracy" and your a nut if you dont believe the official lines. Not sure if he's a paid schill or simply just naive but looking into his replies raises questions about his interests.
Some examples include him knocking believers of the 911 truth movement and himself attacking people who believe 911 was an inside job or was fabricated or any coverup of the government. One of his reply's for example attacked people who thought the planes could have been remotely controlled ex (Look up Operation Northwoods, also look into the top speed of the original jet that flew into 911 and realise it didnt have the engines nor the structural strength to fly at the reported ~590mph for any length of time at sea level altitude, and certainly not for the very long length it did in 911).
He as well attacked people that believed in HAARP affecting weather saying they are crazy to believe in such (Really dig into HAARP and you'll read all about how it can totally change weather, even the son of the haarp project creator talked about how his dads invention does that).
He doesn't believe in Boston bombings being staged where there is Significant amounts of evidence there was a lot of fakery and manimpulated images and false official lies being contradicted and lying in your face, just as the conneticut shooting and the aurora shooting and the 711 bombing on the UK, 911 again, the Syrian Sarin gas footages, the previous syrian massare which turned out to be Iraq massacre that the americans inflicted... the list is very long,
He as well attacks people who believe in the alien phenomenom, he doesn't believe Obama had a second name with a different last name as supportive by a lot of evidence and there is just so much dis info from this person he is obviously trying to confuse people and spread disinfo about everything and prevent people trying to shine light into matters to figure out the truth of what really happened. Look up his history of replies and read his replies theres all that I included and much more, I have just read through enough of them to pick up on this pattern and it is Very Very Obvious. to me what his intents are or how naive he very much is to believe the official stories in every situation being nothing but the truth and anyone questioning is nuts.
NavyDoc
Well, the problem is, contractor or not, he still had to undergo the same NCIS investigation process to get his clearance that a military person would. Thus the arrest record would have made him ineligible and it really is a puzzlement that he had his position in the first place.
paradoxstyle
Hey guys just a heads up about user Flyswatter having proof read all of his entries in this thread it's all reflective of the official government story with every single reply he has made, and his ideas of news report updates are only of interest if it supports the official government narrative of what happened so be weary of what he contributes to this discussion and possible efforts to prevent skeptic talk about what is happening with this story as it unfolds.
I looked further into his replies with other topics and it's the same deal, official story or it's "conspiracy" and your a nut if you dont believe the official lines. Not sure if he's a paid schill or simply just naive but looking into his replies raises questions about his interests.
Some examples include him knocking believers of the 911 truth movement and himself attacking people who believe 911 was an inside job or was fabricated or any coverup of the government. One of his reply's for example attacked people who thought the planes could have been remotely controlled ex (Look up Operation Northwoods, also look into the top speed of the original jet that flew into 911 and realise it didnt have the engines nor the structural strength to fly at the reported ~590mph for any length of time at sea level altitude, and certainly not for the very long length it did in 911).
He as well attacked people that believed in HAARP affecting weather saying they are crazy to believe in such (Really dig into HAARP and you'll read all about how it can totally change weather, even the son of the haarp project creator talked about how his dads invention does that).
He doesn't believe in Boston bombings being staged where there is Significant amounts of evidence there was a lot of fakery and manimpulated images and false official lies being contradicted and lying in your face, just as the conneticut shooting and the aurora shooting and the 711 bombing on the UK, 911 again, the Syrian Sarin gas footages, the previous syrian massare which turned out to be Iraq massacre that the americans inflicted... the list is very long,
He as well attacks people who believe in the alien phenomenom, he doesn't believe Obama had a second name with a different last name as supportive by a lot of evidence and there is just so much dis info from this person he is obviously trying to confuse people and spread disinfo about everything and prevent people trying to shine light into matters to figure out the truth of what really happened. Look up his history of replies and read his replies theres all that I included and much more, I have just read through enough of them to pick up on this pattern and it is Very Very Obvious. to me what his intents are or how naive he very much is to believe the official stories in every situation being nothing but the truth and anyone questioning is nuts.
Just a heads up while we debate this topic more.edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)
Xtrozero
paradoxstyle
Hey guys just a heads up about user Flyswatter having proof read all of his entries in this thread it's all reflective of the official government story with every single reply he has made, and his ideas of news report updates are only of interest if it supports the official government narrative of what happened so be weary of what he contributes to this discussion and possible efforts to prevent skeptic talk about what is happening with this story as it unfolds.
I looked further into his replies with other topics and it's the same deal, official story or it's "conspiracy" and your a nut if you dont believe the official lines. Not sure if he's a paid schill or simply just naive but looking into his replies raises questions about his interests.
Some examples include him knocking believers of the 911 truth movement and himself attacking people who believe 911 was an inside job or was fabricated or any coverup of the government. One of his reply's for example attacked people who thought the planes could have been remotely controlled ex (Look up Operation Northwoods, also look into the top speed of the original jet that flew into 911 and realise it didnt have the engines nor the structural strength to fly at the reported ~590mph for any length of time at sea level altitude, and certainly not for the very long length it did in 911).
He as well attacked people that believed in HAARP affecting weather saying they are crazy to believe in such (Really dig into HAARP and you'll read all about how it can totally change weather, even the son of the haarp project creator talked about how his dads invention does that).
He doesn't believe in Boston bombings being staged where there is Significant amounts of evidence there was a lot of fakery and manimpulated images and false official lies being contradicted and lying in your face, just as the conneticut shooting and the aurora shooting and the 711 bombing on the UK, 911 again, the Syrian Sarin gas footages, the previous syrian massare which turned out to be Iraq massacre that the americans inflicted... the list is very long,
He as well attacks people who believe in the alien phenomenom, he doesn't believe Obama had a second name with a different last name as supportive by a lot of evidence and there is just so much dis info from this person he is obviously trying to confuse people and spread disinfo about everything and prevent people trying to shine light into matters to figure out the truth of what really happened. Look up his history of replies and read his replies theres all that I included and much more, I have just read through enough of them to pick up on this pattern and it is Very Very Obvious. to me what his intents are or how naive he very much is to believe the official stories in every situation being nothing but the truth and anyone questioning is nuts.
So are you saying we have a skeptic in our mix...oh the horror....hide the children...hehe
paradoxstyle
reply to post by Xtrozero
hey if you want to label him as a skeptic instead of the other and choose to believe his story.. well then might as well skip all the debating of what happpened, turn on your TV and tune into CNN and hear the final official story after it's been worked out because of everything he's posted about that's what he's preaching every time. It's your prerogative who you want to trust and believe anyhows, I just posted to bring peoples attention to what he leans towards every time. If you dont believe me, look into his history for yourself. As for being skeptic in general, I think most of us are especially if you question official story... if you choose not to question the official story, well again so much for being a skeptic. Right?
starfoxxx
The Navy Yard shooter has been identified as 34-year-old Aaron Alexis from Fort Worth, Texas, according to the Associated Press and NBC News citing law enforcement officials.
Few details are available so far about Alexis, but someone with the same name was apparently arrested for discharge of a firearm in Forth Worth in 2010.
Police believe Alexis had a concealed carry permit for a weapon, the Associated Press reports.
In 2010, Alexis' gun apparently went off while he was in his apartment. The bullet shot a hole through his upstairs neighbor's floor.
NBC News in Dallas/Forth Worth obtained the arrest report. An excerpt from the narrative is posted below:
[The upstairs neighbor] also told me that her downstairs neighbor ARR (Alexis,Aaron) has called the police several times on her for being loud however the police always said they didn't hear anything and no action was taken. She said that several days ago Aaron confronted her in the parking lot about making too much noise. June told me that she is terrified of Aaron and feels that this was done intentionally.
Alexis reportedly told police that he was cleaning his gun when it accidentally went off.
Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
I think this guys been a loose cannon for a while..
paradoxstyle
amraks
Tracey369
do these articles on page 14 of googlesearch mean the article was posted 3 days ago, scroll down and look for 2 NBC links
www.google.com... ngton%20Navy%20Yard%3B%20at%20Least%201%20Victim#psj=1&q=Police,+FBI:+Shooter+Reported+in+Military+Building+at+Washington+Navy+Yard%3B+at+Least+1+Vict im&start=130 (just noticed they have been removed, but I did screengrab them)
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It has Sep 16th as date of the article, but 3 days ago when cached whatever by GS.
I am not very clever, so may be nothing.
In all this confusion, when did the shooting supposedly start, do not know really myself, but found this article, was it up BEFORE the shooting.
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Also I would like to update that now 3 of those articles by 3 different news media sources that reported the news before the event took place on monday appear to have changed their date stamp on the article (one of which the article got removed completely), but if you search google for example on the ABC one it still shows you the original date stamp from 3 days ago as of today instead of the updated date stamp within the article itself. Not sure if this coverup of the early beforehand prediction or what, but it's fascinating how many people are picking up on this. I would maybe understand one source having the date stamp on the article submission being off to a 'technical glitch', but it having happened to two other main stream news sources is no coincidence I dont think lol.
I remember thinking yesterday that if they change the date stamp on one more article that it would stand out a lot more suspiciously for me and when I refreshed the ABC link only to find it change the date stamp I knew it!
this i the screenshot that I took of ABC with the 15th as the publish date which is before the incident took place.
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Here is the same article but with the system date (which automaticaly gets posted when article gets inputted) manually changed by their web guy.
abcnews.go.com...edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)edit on 17-9-2013 by paradoxstyle because: (no reason given)
Eryiedes
amraks
Tracey369
do these articles on page 14 of googlesearch mean the article was posted 3 days ago, scroll down and look for 2 NBC links
www.google.com... ngton%20Navy%20Yard%3B%20at%20Least%201%20Victim#psj=1&q=Police,+FBI:+Shooter+Reported+in+Military+Building+at+Washington+Navy+Yard%3B+at+Least+1+Vict im&start=130 (just noticed they have been removed, but I did screengrab them)
i.imgur.com...
i.imgur.com...
It has Sep 16th as date of the article, but 3 days ago when cached whatever by GS.
I am not very clever, so may be nothing.
In all this confusion, when did the shooting supposedly start, do not know really myself, but found this article, was it up BEFORE the shooting.
i.imgur.com...
i.imgur.com...
After Boston, this does not suprise me at all.
-Peace-
Alexis told police he believed people were following him and "sending vibrations into his body," according to a Newport police report