Breaking:Russia Today News Declares 9/11 An Inside Job False Flag Attack. ATS:Time to move it!!!

reply to post by GoKill


I find the timing interesting. RT is saying that the Syrian Government isn't behind the gas attacks, and that its the rebels, Al-Qaida. Yet now they say that in the case of 9/11 the US government attacked its own people, and Al-Qaida wasn't behind it...

Which is especially strange considering how in the case of Syria both Russia knew that Syria had chemical weapons, and Syria admits it as well, yet they still blame the rebels, whom we, as far as I know, have no proof of having such weapons.

misskat1
many are questioning who is really behind the Syrian Chemical attacks, and every finger we point has 3 pointing back at the US.

I suppose you could say Al-Qaida is USA, and therefore USA committed both 9/11, and the Syrian gas attack.

OtherSideOfTheCoin

Somebody seems to be seeing what they want to see....

to say the building collapsed into its own footprint, would mean just that, that the building, the entire building collapsed into its own footprint, its own perimeter. WTC-7 quite clearly did not do that, hell the pictures i posted show a huge chuck of the building leaning up against another building and the derbies field spilling out blocking off road's.

WTC-7 did not collapse into its own footprint. FACT.

edit on 10-9-2013 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)

Fiction...

Collapse into foot print is a generalism, it means the building collapsed in a controlled way, often in controlled demolitions parts of the building fall away, its the nature of the beast. When a building is in a controlled demolition it falls far faster than a building say hit by an earthquake, it also falls very uniformly as seen with building 7.

If you look at all the towers and look at a controlled demolition and then say there's no striking similarities then its you who are seeing what you want. If you think fire did the job on building 7 then I suggest you contact the owners and get them to sue the builders because they did a piss poor job.

If numerous architects and scientists are willing to put their good names on the line, names I've checked to see if they both exist and are what they say they are say that building 7 could not have fallen by fire then I tend to believe them, why risk your professional position and credibility over a guess, you don't.

reply to post by Lingweenie


Please please stop calling it termite..

That's a whole new conspiracy

reply to post by openeye


Yes we understand how steel weakens, what we don't understand is why NIST's only model data is CLASSIFIED, we are not allowed to know what data they used to come to the finding.

Yet a large number of scientists and architects have released THEIR data showing that fire could NOT have done to the building what was claimed it did. If you look at building 7 there are ejections from the building BEFORE it comes down.

Fact, thermite has been found in the dust, fact, people are developing cancer according to reports yesterday from the 9/11 dust. What the cancer is coming from I don't know but breathing in Thermite can't be to clever.

I'm not advocating all these mad theories you see on the net, I don't think a hologram was used on the towers, they were indeed hit by planes FACT, people died in droves that day who didn't deserve to, FACT, how the buildings feel down is conjecture as even the US government and a report failed to provide a provable open proof, sadly a FACT.

The fact that people think their own government would not harm them considering what has been going on since 9/11 disturbs me, it makes me wonder if people actually grasp the very thing about what a government is, the common misconception is that its there to look after the people, wrong, its there to look after the country and that's VERY different. People depending on their usefulness are a mere by product.

If people refuse to think that America might link up with another country to create a controlled tension and unrest elsewhere then they need to get their head out of the sand, the only true thing we know about 9/11 is that the US government refuses to provide the American people the proof they have in classified vaults.

The rest is a 'who done it'...

I truly wish for the truth to be known on this and banking and conspiracy. I have my own ideas based on fact, and to be honest, the levels of corruption goes further than the big guys, way down to individual freemason families and church communities on a very local basis.

It is based on power and evil, where evil has gained power by taking from the good then lied and accused the good of their own crimes.

People need to wake up and realise the Truth and oust the bad guys, now.

Some excellent videos attempting to debunk some of the conspiracy theories. Good Watch.

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GoKill
reply to post by SkepticOverlord

 

With all do respect John Lear claims ATS is a CIA run think tank and I've seen enough around here to believe it. Which is why my post count is so low. (and I have a life) So you see we all have our doubts about all sources.

Fact remains 3 buildings, 2 planes... It's simple math really....

If obama held a press conference to announce 911 was a bush admin inside job there would still be doubters on ATS. So I'm not sure why I wasted my time.


BTW: The new template sux balls. Just saying...

Now please don't have Black Hawks dropping out guys on my front lawn.

Thanks!

That was the best reply I've seen seen I have created this account

Good for you brother; saying what everyone knows deep down, but dont say to be 'good little members for the overlord' hhaha

FlyersFan
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

Like I said ... the people from the 9/11 forum spill over and post nothing but rude comments.

Predictable.

Radical Islamic Jihadists happen. That's the truth. 9/11 was a hit by Jihadists.
The hit was EXPLOITED by Rumsfeld and Cheney. It was taken advantage of.

And for the yutz's out there ....

Four airplanes crashed on 9/11. They didn't fly safely to Canada. They weren't project blue beam.
The people inside DIED. DEAD DEAD DEAD. They aren't living in foreign countries under
assumed names. It was airplanes .. not missiles .. that hit buildings. Airplanes steered by
19 Islamic hijackers on a mission. The terrorist hit was exploited by American politicians for
their own agendas afterwards.

Deal with it.

The physics can't be explained away. Sorry. I won't insult you or your motivations, but I have to correctly point out that you literally and honestly cannot produce any credible scientific data that allows for the three buildings in Manhattan to physically collapse in the manner that they collapsed that day. That is a factual and objective statement that - to date - has not been successfully countered by any computer model or NIST white paper. This alone should be enough to require the kind of serious investigation that the majority of the US has since decided that it wants to see conducted.

There is no legal or non-ideological reason why a full and proper investigation of the 100s of credible and scientifically-based contradictions with the Official Conspiracy Theory should NOT be conducted, and this is a fact that has also not been successfully countered by any lawyer, or legal examination.

The reasons for insisting that everyone walk away from, and take a pass on finally determining the full facts concerning, the largest public mass murder to ever be committed within the United States, without even conducting an investigation that would satisfy the minimum requirements of a typical NTSB inquiry into a commercial airline crash, have been given again and again, and they've all amounted to nothing more than an appeal to patriotism, "common sense", respect for the murdered and their families, or "us against them" provincialism.

No one trusts us (the United States, as a government, and as a society of people) anymore, and why should they? We aggressively lie to ourselves and to each other, and the refusal to even take a renewed look at the 9/11 attacks - in light of so much contradictory evidence that clearly deserves further scrutiny - is probably the most powerful indication that we, as a society, are not to be trusted. Hell, if we'll allow our own to be murdered on a wholesale level and then defend the murderers against anyone who speaks out about the injustice of it, then what is there preventing us - as a society of otherwise free-to-express-ourselves people - from being much more evil and horrific to those who aren't part of our society?

If I wasn't an American, I'd be terrified of the who damn bunch of us. Not just the US government, but the average US citizen. I'd see that person as culturally psychopathic.

And Putin is getting ready to arm Iran. Still trust him?

We aggressively lie to ourselves and to each other, and the refusal to even take a renewed look at the 9/11 attacks - in light of so much contradictory evidence that clearly deserves further scrutiny

It would be wonderful if you would enlighten all us liars to your ' contradictory evidence'.

And I don't mean bags of dust with red paint chips or youtube videos-I mean 'real' evidence. Documented physical evidence of a conspiracy involving 1,000 of people who murdered all the victims of 9/11.

Just what I thought-nothing

spooky24

We aggressively lie to ourselves and to each other, and the refusal to even take a renewed look at the 9/11 attacks - in light of so much contradictory evidence that clearly deserves further scrutiny

It would be wonderful if you would enlighten all us liars to your ' contradictory evidence'.

And I don't mean bags of dust with red paint chips or youtube videos-I mean 'real' evidence. Documented physical evidence of a conspiracy involving 1,000 of people who murdered all the victims of 9/11.

Just what I thought-nothing

Have you ever stopped to think how ludicrous it is to assume that it would take thousands of US insiders to pull off what a couple dozen cave dwelling Arabs could do? Sounds like a definite lack of confidence in the abilities of your government employees, you probably think it takes a 20 man crew of "our guys" to screw in a light bulb.

reply to post by frazzle

Have you ever stopped to think how ludicrous it is to assume that it would take thousands of US insiders to pull off what a couple dozen cave dwelling Arabs could do?

YES!

and the key difference is the method

if you assume the offical story is correct then yes 19 hijackers with the support of Al-Qa'ida could most definitely have pulled it off

yet if you ask if those same individuals could have been the same ones who planted thermite, shot down flight 93 and then launched a missile at the pentagon. no they could not have done that, that takes a lot of people.

OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by frazzle

 

Have you ever stopped to think how ludicrous it is to assume that it would take thousands of US insiders to pull off what a couple dozen cave dwelling Arabs could do?

YES!

and the key difference is the method

if you assume the offical story is correct then yes 19 hijackers with the support of Al-Qa'ida could most definitely have pulled it off

yet if you ask if those same individuals could have been the same ones who planted thermite, shot down flight 93 and then launched a missile at the pentagon. no they could not have done that, that takes a lot of people.

So Al Qaeda has better methods than the US government? I guess maybe that's why we've hired Al Qaeda to take down Assad, because us USians can't do it as well and get the American people to sign off on it?

Shooting down a jet ~ one individual to order it done, one or two pilots to do the shooting. That's a lot of people?

So the construction boss says to his crew: "Wire these columns with this wire and then coat them with this paint." None of the workers jumps up and says "HEY, this stuff is nano thermite, it'll melt the steel." They do what they're told with the materials they're provided if they expect a paycheck at the end of the week so they can buy Mama's groceries. Now if a bunch of Arabs in turbans started wiring and painting those columns its a safe bet that someone might notice and object.

What do you guys think of this vid???

Oh. and another perspective for those that argue the building was in front in the first video.

reply to post by SunnyDee




This picture above is showing the same building as in the first one you posted and as you can see that building is most definitely in-front of the south tower.

It's just the angle its been recorded at

and the second video is at a totally different angle and does not have that same building in the shot.

So unless you believe that 9/11 was really just a huge GCI movie played out in the news that pretty much explains that first video

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin



No I don't believe it was all CGI'ed, but I do like to see different video perspectives and analyse.

reply to post by SunnyDee


Fair enough so do i thats why i spent some time trying to find a different angle to see if that building was in front of or behind WTC-2, turns out it was in front of it which for me explains why the wing seems to disappear behind it.

SunnyDee
What do you guys think of this vid???

Whaaaat What Whaaat?

Hold on, wait a minute. What? Wtf was that? Holy sh... time for me to take another look at all this. Did that wing just disappear behind that building?

ETA: looks like a trick to the eye and almost had me there...

reply to post by Mclaneinc


Well I'm not exactly sure what else to call it. I'm just saying in the dust a scientist had found components you would usually find in termite. I'm sure if some sort of explosive was used, it wouldn't have been ordinary termite. I'm sure it would probably have a name of it's own. And the overall structure of the substance would be pretty different.

I was just saying that the stuff that was found in the dust/residue had pretty high characteristics of a termite-like substance. So, in a nutshell I'm just saying a high temperature, and most likely a highly explosive could have been used to bring down the building in a demolition style.